I'm talking to a dancer now but I haven't asked for OTC in person yet (last met her on Friday). Should I ask her for OTC in person or by text? I've always done it in person with limited results. I would only ask by text because she is only coming in the club every two or three weeks now due to school/another job for the foreseeable future.
In person. Unless she is a high volume type, OTC is generally easier to score once you build rapport. If you are having trouble doing that then you may not be asking the right question. 😉
I think it matters if it's not a dancer who's got a good feel for the customer. If it hasn't crossed her mind this is a guy who does stuff outside, then it might help him out if he's there so she can size him up when the question comes up. It might also sink the whole mission lol, but YMWV.
Definitely in person. Especially if you haven’t established a rapport yet.
And besides, you don’t want to discuss any sort of details via text. Even if couched in terms such as “Billy Joel” or “tuition”. Just in unlikely case LEO is looking at her (or your) comms. (Think Matt Gaetz…)
I always ask in person partly because you can often get a reading from her reaction, which can tell you a lot about how to proceed. Doing it via text offers none of that.
I also tend to ask for those things in person because I don't like digital bread crumbs. Even if you're using a burner phone, etc., my preference is to use text just to coordinate schedules. Anything beyond that makes me uncomfortable, but that's just my comfort level. Other guys are a lot more explicit via phone.
Thanks for the advice. I think I'm going to stick with asking her in person. That usually gives me a to get a feel for her and the situation. She'll be back in town sometime next week.
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Idk about others here, but in the countless OTC adventures I've had I can count on one hand the number of times I've ever had to be sexually explicit during negotiations and those were unusual circumstances (a couple claimed to be on their periods). For the most part, when you offer to take a girl from the club to your hotel, there is no confusion about what the expectations are.
The reasons Ive gravitated to this hobby over the years is to avoid the mind games that come with dating and relationships. That being said Id be direct over phone or in person. Dancers get into this profession for the quick money. Id just tell her you are hoping to see her regularly instead of visiting other girls and you will make the meetups worth her time. You will only have two results. A yes and a maybe later which if you manage well can turn into a yes down the road.
No one is under the impression that it's going to be a legit "date". Everyone has their own comfort level when it comes to communications, and that's fine.
Primarily, I'd talk about OTC with a dancer in person because I'm face-to-face with her and can get a better read on her mood or willingness. Texting/messaging provides none of that context.
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And besides, you don’t want to discuss any sort of details via text. Even if couched in terms such as “Billy Joel” or “tuition”. Just in unlikely case LEO is looking at her (or your) comms. (Think Matt Gaetz…)
I also tend to ask for those things in person because I don't like digital bread crumbs. Even if you're using a burner phone, etc., my preference is to use text just to coordinate schedules. Anything beyond that makes me uncomfortable, but that's just my comfort level. Other guys are a lot more explicit via phone.
Idk about others here, but in the countless OTC adventures I've had I can count on one hand the number of times I've ever had to be sexually explicit during negotiations and those were unusual circumstances (a couple claimed to be on their periods). For the most part, when you offer to take a girl from the club to your hotel, there is no confusion about what the expectations are.
Now the money is of course another matter. :)
Especially If couched in terms of “Billy Joel” or “tuition” because not only won’t you be fooling anyone, you’ll look like a fucking idiot.
Primarily, I'd talk about OTC with a dancer in person because I'm face-to-face with her and can get a better read on her mood or willingness. Texting/messaging provides none of that context.