“We must work together to ensure the equitable distribution of wealth, opportuni

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“We must work together to ensure the equitable distribution of wealth, opportunity, and power in our society.”

~ Nelson Rolihlahla Mandela

~ STATE OF THE NATION ADDRESS, PARLIAMENT, CAPE TOWN, SOUTH AFRICA, FEBRUARY 9, 1996

~ Born 18 July 1918
Mvezo, Cape Province, Union of South Africa (now Eastern Cape)
~ Died
5 December 2013
Johannesburg, Gauteng, Republic of South Africa

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mark94
4 years ago
A synonym for equitable is fair. That requires a subjective judgement. Fair for whom ? In what way ?

It’s a statement that seems perfectly reasonable until you start applying it in the real world. One person works 2 jobs and saves his money. Another person works part time and spends it all on pot and partying. What is an “ equitable distribution of wealth” for those people ?
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Warrior15
4 years ago
Cj, Do you really believe the crap that you post ? Or are you just trying to start an argument ? I've seen your comments in the Photos section. You do have good taste in women. Let's stick to conversations about that on this site, please ?
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Chilli_Powdurr
4 years ago
Buy GME to get wealth
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Icee Loco (asshole)
4 years ago
What Mandela said is the basis for sustainable development regardless of the political system in place. Idiots usually forget you cant have capitalism with a consumer base that can afford to consume and workers who feel they benefit from their work. Impoverishment society for the benefit of the wealthy isn't sustainable nor morally right
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CJKent_band
4 years ago
@mark94

Let’s look at definitions to begin with:
* Equal: the same or exactly alike. As in “all men are created equal”. Equality
* Fair: appropriate in the circumstances, just as in Fairness
* Equity: the quality of being fair and impartial. As in “equitable distribution of wealth, opportunity, and power in our society.”

Our society is constantly trying to take steps towards being fair, however is not always easy to do because the economic, political, cultural system in this country unfairly favors powerful interests and most people have been brainwashed, by the powerful, to accept this as “the only way”

Because in reality people are different and experience different circumstances, people may need differing treatment to make their opportunities the same as another's. This is called equity.

Equity can only occur in America if we all agree that all people should be getting what they need, to live a decent existence.

Having a sincere, unselfish, concern for the welfare of others is essential for equity to be successful and in America this mostly happens when there is a disaster, however this is also when the predators and opportunist act like vultures and take advantage of the system in place.

The only way we can change that, by being happy for good people when they get what they need to be successful, and bad people are punished for stealing, cheating, defrauding.

A system where the good behavior towards the community is rewarded will make all of us more successful in the long run.
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CJKent_band
4 years ago
@Warrior15

I don't necessarily believe/agree with everything I post.

Quotations are used by me as a means of inspiration and to invoke philosophical thoughts from the reader.

Pragmatically speaking, quotations can also be used as language games (in the Wittgensteinian sense of the term) to manipulate social order and the structure of society

“Like everything metaphysical the harmony between thought and reality is to be found in the grammar of the language.”

~ Ludwig Wittgenstein
~ Austrian-British philosopher
~ Born: April 26, 1889, Vienna, Austria
~ Died: April 29, 1951, Cambridge, United Kingdom

Ludwig said it all...
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mark94
4 years ago
You use words as platitudes but don’t explain how they would be applied in practice.

Back to my example, one person works hard and saves. Another person spends their time in leisure. What is a fair distribution of wealth between them ?

I’ve actually visited Wittgenstein’s grave. Got a great photo of a stray cat crossing over his grave.

In this case, Socrates method of defining a term would be more useful and practical.
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skibum609
4 years ago
Nelson Mandel the buffoon speaks lol. South Africa is on a downward death spiral, just like its' little cousin did: Rhodesia.
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mark94
4 years ago
The drivel that ICEE posts is what passes for academic excellence in today’s institutes of higher learning. The professor ( who is incapable of getting a job outside academia ) spouts a bunch of Marxist nonsense and the student repeats this verbatim on an exam, without ever bothering to question what it means. Top of the Class !

Then, these excellent students realize no one wants to hire them in the real world. They become bitter and blame their parents, society, capitalism, boomers, and everyone but themselves for failing in life.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
4 years ago
"The drivel that ICEE posts is what passes for academic excellence in today’s institutes of higher learning."

No ... it really isn't.
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Tetradon
4 years ago
"Quotations are used by me as a means of inspiration and to invoke philosophical thoughts from the reader."
They invoke the thought that CJ is an autistic twerp who got one too many wedgies in childhood.

"The drivel that ICEE posts is what passes for academic excellence in today’s institutes of higher learning."
In the special ed department, perhaps. It's cute, the way he tosses around terms he clearly does not understand.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
4 years ago
Equitable access to society at large and sustainable development are the norm in the first world. You can have a social market for the public coupled with laissez Faire policies. Its not uncommon. Externalities are a capitalist tendency and not just as aspect of socialism. But yall too retarded to get it. Must have lived through the red scare lulz
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mark94
4 years ago
^ That reads like one of those sentence generators where you randomly select words from different columns
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Tetradon
4 years ago
^ I had a private convo with someone who thinks ICEE is another troll alias. I told him it would take a ton of effort to replicate his mild-to-moderate mental retardation, dim-bulb pimp persona, and disordered thought patterns.

But in the end, we're all Juice. Only poorer.
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skibum609
4 years ago
If you're a failure; you are enamored with socialism. If you are a success; you know socialists are the enemy and need to be treated as such.
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CJKent_band
4 years ago
@mark94

We would have to change the law s and values of the society and the system.

For example the Incas imposed a set of three laws on its citizens: “Ama Sua. Ama Llulla. Ama Quella” or “Do not steal. Do not lie. Do not be lazy”.

Since the purpose of Inca law was to teach a lesson to the offender and prevent re-occurrence by any member of the society, the death penalty was frequently applied.

Homicide, second offenses in drunkenness, theft and laziness were all punished by death.

The Inca government promoted peace among its citizens, there was very little crime, there was no system of imprisonment and offenders were punished so that the penalty was exemplary to the rest of the population...
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skibum609
4 years ago
Wow the Incas would have hated the Democratic base who's entire life is based on stealing from others, lying 24/7 (structural racism) and too lazy and stupid to work. Very little crime in North Korea you dumb useless fuck.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
4 years ago
You cant detract from facts so you resort to personal attacks
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mark94
4 years ago
Incas ? Fucking Incas ? Holy shit !
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datinman
4 years ago
I am all in favor of equitable distribution of opportunity. Wealth and power, however, should be dependent on what the individual does with said opportunities.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
4 years ago
Power and wealth concentrated in a few individuals is a plutocracy not a democracy
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skibum609
4 years ago
100% false Icee. If you have to change the definition of a word to prove your point, it means you have no point. Rich people exist under every type of Government, including democracy. The people you support are ill educated and lazy, and so they fail and blame others.
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mark94
4 years ago
Don’t try to tell the rest of the world how to live until you’ve had some life experiences yourself. Earn a paycheck. Buy a house. Pay a mortgage. Start a family. Mourn the death of a loved one. Travel Outside the US.

In other words, get your own life in order before before you preach to us. Four years of paying to listen to Marxist professors does not qualify you as an expert on life.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
4 years ago
In other words youre right wing extremists
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skibum609
4 years ago
Fuck you Icee, you stalinist piece of shit.
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