De Facto Sugarbaby

I started to wear a bra and a wig and Ricky is no longer tired of me! Always got to keep the role play fresh! 😉😇

Nothing new under the sun here. I sometimes think I spend as much time dodging or making excuses to the girl I used to want to fuck in the club as I do securing that new trim.

The question you have to ask is: Is it her or me?

It is a business transaction. She found you. Give her notice and the opportunity to find someone else.

Whenever that happens i ask them if she has any friends that need help.

Now this happens routinely for me with normal OTC companions, but I always wondered if it would be different if she was more of a full blown SB. Now I know. Unless she is really spectacular I just get bored too quickly.

While it's still a P4P situation, you've entered the blurry area between strictly business and civie relationship (at least in HER mind). Every time I've ever started to get personal with a "playdate" it hasn't lasted long after that. Once you add dinner and drinks to the equation, you've also added more discussion of personal matters and feelings. Most of us wouldn't be here if we could be satisfied by a traditional relationship. We always get bored, no matter how hot or sexually enticing she may be. You've taken a step toward, or perhaps over, the line. Now you have to "break up" with her like you would a regular girlfriend you've grown tired of.

I got involved the the SB stuff about 2 years ago. I"ve found the economics of it to be a lot better than clubs/OTC. Right now, I'm in a monthly arrangement. I pay her $2,000 a month. Just this month, we've been together 9 nights and "done it" over twenty times.. If I was paying individual girls for that much action, it would have cost me WAY more than. I probably have spent another $1000 on drinks, dinner and stuff to do. But that is fun for me too. But I do miss getting some "strange".

@rickdugan

If you are “not longer enjoying as much”

@rickdugan

I had a Sugar Baby type of relationship with my ATF, where we had OTC almost every week for more than two years.

I would pick her up on Sunday afternoon, get an hotel room and we would make love, massage each other, sometimes have room service, sometimes we would go out to dinner to a real nice place.

She would refer to me as her fiancé to other people, her sister told me.

I have thousands of pictures of her modeling cute sexy outfits I got for her.

Around Halloween she was slave princesses Lea from Star Wars, Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader, Playboy Bunny.

Around Christmas a sexy miss Santa, naughty school girl.

Like I said she was a baby stripper when we meet, very sweet and nice.

The sex got better and better because she was more comfortable and felt safe relaxed and was able to let herself go and enjoy it, I enjoyed it too, she would experience multiple orgasms and was very shy and sweet about it.

Sometimes she would spend the night and would fall a sleep with her head on my chest like the little angel she was.

She texted me one last time letting me know she was moving on and thanking me for the relationship...

She was worth every penny and every second I spent on her.

Thank you for making me remember the good times.

Back to answering your question;

I have tried to develop a similar experience with other girls, but so far it has not been possible for one reason or another.

Just remember; “the grass is NOT always greener on the other side of the fence.”

If it’s p4p, then you should t feel bad about moving on, that’s why you pay. I’m sure she won’t be hurt too long, but you can always place her on retainer just in case you change your mind in the future when time has passed. Throw her a few parting dollars, and say you’ll catch up with her again when things settle down.

I'll freely admit that I have far less experience in the SB realm than many of you, but this mild sense of obligation that I'm starting to feel is precisely why I've avoided it for all these years. My cup overfloweth with family, business and charitable obligations already. The last thing I need is another one and I fucking hate being scheduled, yet now I'm experiencing both.

/end rant, lol.

Anyway there was some good advice on here. I'm going to pull the plug, probably with a parting payment to give her time to re-adjust.

What a pussy I'd figured from all your tough talk, you'd just ghost her, after all you're a family man and a businessman with multiple other obligations.

Are you wanting to part w/her completely or put her on rotation for one off visits down the line?? Either way, parting gift isn't the worst idea and move on. Future encounters you can always pre-empt when you get SB vibes.

NAAAASTY

N, I don't see her going back in the rotation. Frankly it takes too much advance planning around her vanilla job. But I do agree about giving her a parting gift. I did after all indicate openness to this sort of thing in the first place and I've had a lot of fun as a result. She drives a long way from the boonies to come see me and then stays for hours. It feels like the least I should do.

SD/SB arrangements are by definition, NSA (no strings attached). She could have ghosted you anytime and you'd just have to move on, with no hard feelings. It happens. But ending an arrangement can be civil, too. Simply tell her that that this isn't right for you anymore and thank her for her friendship and amazing times. I suggest doing this AFTER you've banged her one last time, as you aren't likely to get any sugar once she's been told.

Optionally, you can give her a bit more sugar when parting, but only if you actually feel like a total shit for leaving her without warning.

Also, optionally, giver her the web address for Seeking and tell her to check it out.

Final option, if she's hot and lives in the Valley, send me a PM and we can talk about a possible introduction to the Cat. I have an open position in my SB rotation...

Yeah why do you guys have to see each other all the time? Who said that had to be a part of it. Just hit her up when your feeling it again. No biggie. She gonna be alright. Get a bunch of SBs in the stable. It really ain’t a bad gig and it has surpassed strip clubs for me especially once CoVid hit but in particular my area is outstanding for the sugar scene where as strip clubs it is not. Not every place is like that but to me if your living in a major metro it’s well worth it to have your beak in it

Well done Rick! Honestly I was going to suggest this kind of soft landing for her. But for your personality I would suggest staying out of that arena and keeping it strictly a club girl PPM OTC.

@Herb: I'm not sure what the Valley even is, but I'm guessing it's far away from our wonderful NE FL area.

@Muddy: I hear what you're saying, but that whole SB thing is not for me, whether it's a rotating stable or otherwise. I've heard too many stories about the development time and effort necessary. Your willingness to drive 9 hours round trip for a piece of (albeit hot) tail probably makes the chase part of the fun for you, which I might find fun as well if my circumstances were different. But I just can't devote that kind of time and energy into this. I prefer just to go to the club when I want to and work things out on the fly if the stars align.

Personally, I don’t like feeling obligated, whether that’s express or implied. Life goes in too many directions for that in a p4p situation. If her expectations are for a regular and ongoing thing and yours aren’t, it’s already at or near the end and it’s probably best to be proactive in bringing it to a relatively low drama finish.

@rickdugan - correct. The "Valley" mentioned is the San Fernando Valley in north Los Angeles.

Also, I'll suggest that the vision of sugaring that you described to @Muddy is a bit skewed, perhaps by feedback you have seen here from people who have not been successful in the Sugar Bowl. I never drive more than 20 minutes for an SB encounter, and most of the time I don't drive at all, as most of my SB's drive to me. Yes, it takes some time to go from initial message to an arrangement, but not really much more than it may take to meet a stripper, get to know her, and arrange an OTC meeting (same-night hook ups not withstanding).

Anyway, we each must decide on how to balance effort, funds, and time in order to optimize our enjoyment of the wet, warm heaven that is Pussy.

@rick: "Anybody else dip their toes into the SD/SB thing and realize that it's just not for you?"

Generally speaking, I like the SB route. I'm certainly not going to make every girl who's good at fucking a sugar baby, but I won't rule it out. That said, the bar is pretty high for me, especially now, so it doesn't seem likely I'll do it again anytime soon.

Oh, and I just checked for active Seeking profiles within 10 miles of Jacksonville, FL.

There are over 1,200 women in that area who are 18-38 years old, have slim or athletic bodies, and do not smoke. Over 200 of those are either online now, or were online in the last 4 days.

Just something to think about...

5 sessions with the sane girl is about where sex without any emotional attachment gets old. Time and variety between can stretch this a bit.

At some point the thrill of the new conquest fades.

===> "Yes, it takes some time to go from initial message to an arrangement, but not really much more than it may take to meet a stripper, get to know her, and arrange an OTC meeting (same-night hook ups not withstanding)."

And a lot of misses I've heard to get to the right hit, which of course is also similar to strippers. I've also read that SA has a lot of fake profiles now, making the process even more cumbersome.

But one big difference is that when I'm doing that dance with strippers, I'm already out in the clubs drinking and enjoying T&A. I don't have much interest in the back and forth communication management and the long-term scheduling elements. I'm doing it now with just one who I already have locked down and even that sucks. When I'm out having fun I'm temporarily "off the clock" with respect to my many other responsibilities (unless I get an urgent call from the home front, which sometimes happens). If I had more free time then I might be game as I could see the chase as part of the fun, but I won't be in that position for a very long time.

Yeah, if you're going some place like seeking, and you expect the flake rate to be lower than strippers, good luck with that. :D

Just ghost her bruh....you’re a customer.