Jacob Blake - Here we go again
misterorange
Biden SUCKS, Kamala BLOWS
"We have to warn you in advance... this is 'tough to watch.'"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kenosha-sho…
The only part I found "tough to watch" was the ignorant and premature commentary by Gayle King at the end.
1) "We are sick and tired." Of what? People disregarding instructions of police? In this case, guns drawn on the piece of shit and he defiantly ignores them, opens his car door, and reaches down apparently to grab something.
2) "We don't know if he had a gun but EVEN IF HE DID he was still shot in the back." Ohhh... so EVEN IF HE HAD A GUN (which obviously would have been retrieved from the car while ignoring police orders) the cops should wait until he turns back around and starts shooting at them?
3) "His kids were in the car." What the fuck difference does that make? The guy was clearly acting in a reckless and threatening manner. By that reasoning, every thug criminal should keep a couple kids nearby to guarantee he won't be shot.
And the Democrat governor and Democrat candidate for VP of the United States have already weighed in, of course on the side of the idiot who got himself shot because of his own actions.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kenosha-sho…
The only part I found "tough to watch" was the ignorant and premature commentary by Gayle King at the end.
1) "We are sick and tired." Of what? People disregarding instructions of police? In this case, guns drawn on the piece of shit and he defiantly ignores them, opens his car door, and reaches down apparently to grab something.
2) "We don't know if he had a gun but EVEN IF HE DID he was still shot in the back." Ohhh... so EVEN IF HE HAD A GUN (which obviously would have been retrieved from the car while ignoring police orders) the cops should wait until he turns back around and starts shooting at them?
3) "His kids were in the car." What the fuck difference does that make? The guy was clearly acting in a reckless and threatening manner. By that reasoning, every thug criminal should keep a couple kids nearby to guarantee he won't be shot.
And the Democrat governor and Democrat candidate for VP of the United States have already weighed in, of course on the side of the idiot who got himself shot because of his own actions.
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THIS GUY HAD A WARRANT FOR HIS ARREST.
So he was a wanted criminal not a choir boy.
Also in the video you can see the cops have ahold of his shirt the whole time trying to stop him....
Again.. nobody should lose their lives and it is sad that kids were present. But people have to realize that his decision not to do what the police asked him to do resulted in him getting shot. ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENSES.
This wasn't a "race" thing. This was a guy not obeying orders, resisting the police (they were grabbing his shirt to try and stop him), etc.
It is sad that it happened when it could have been avoided really easily. But I will wait to see exactly what the investigation finds out for sure. We dont know if a gun was in the car, knife, etc. Hopefully there is body cam footage so we can hear the orders given or not given...etc.
And I am 56 years old and as white as can be.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mesa-police…
It is mostly forgotten.
The police were acquitted in the trial.
The victim was white.
But if you watch the vid... they were holding on to his shirt.. .pulling on it. They were trying as much as they could other than tackling him to the ground.
I know some will say "tazer".... but look what happened in the Wendy's parking lot down in Georgia (I think) and the guy took the tazer and pointed it at the cops and tried to fire it.
ALL OF THE WHAT "IFS" has played out before and the police have been crucified no matter what they do.
But not once has the person or victim been crucified for NOT FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS.
This is what is sad is people dont take responsibility for actions.
I drop $500 in a strip club in 30 mins and I dont go and blame the Strippers and ask for "refunds" or go to the bank and say... I can't pay my bills because of those damn strippers shaking their ass at me. It is the strippers fault not mine.... I live with my decisions that I make.
Right now, civil unrest is seen as part of the "get out the vote" plan for Joe Biden.
At other times, there are other objectives that are more important.
It's certainly not because "Blqck Lives Matter". The fact is that only Some Black Lives Matter. If a black person dies and their death advances your objective, THEY MATTER. But if they are one of the countless, nameless people that die every day in our inner cities at the hands of people committing various crimes (mostly drug related), they simply didn't matter and aren't worth a passing thought.
At least to the people who are profitting from all this nonsense.
I'm waiting to see more facts come out.
What did the owners of the car dealership do to deserve this.
The real losers are going to be the blacks that were not part of this and the other so called protests going on across the country.
i can only imagine what will happen a few hours later.
As I posted b/f, if they would have done that prior to him getting to the car, they would have likely been accused of "excessive force" for "assaulting a guy that was just walking" - once he decided to reach into his car *he* didn't give officers much choice; just like w/ Floyd, the cops gave both plenty of chances to come to their senses and comply w/ the law but they chose o/w and pretty-much sealed their fates (once you take on the police/the-law by taking matters into your own hands, the consequences are inevitable no-matter your race) - the fact is police are trained to dissolve a threat; they often don't have the luxury "to wait and see how it will turn out and what the person's intentions are" - in 2019 close to 50 police officers were murdered at the hands of criminals; not to mention the thousands over-the-years - it's easy to be a "Monday morning quarterback" from the comfort of our lazyboys and say police should have done x,y,z - 99%+ of us civilians are not really cognizant the kinda people police have to deal with on a regular basis; they are the ones that we call upon to deal with the worst of the worst in society to keep those people from us and the cops put their necks/safety on the line to do this, and now the Dems/Libs are shitting on them.
@demsrule.... You are correct that the evidence is damning on the guy not listening. His shirt was getting pulled to stop him from going into the car..
Btw...his history does matter because he did have a warrant for his arrest and his history is he puts up a fight with police.
So those cops gave him more chances than many if you ask me. He could have been shot before he even was in the car.
Again his actions are what caused this shooting. His and his alone.
Who knows what events preceded that moment in time?
The police at the scene can't be faulted for shooting a guy going into his car for something against their orders. They can be faulted for letting things get as far as they did.
Wow... you're such a smart guy. I'm gonna vote for Biden now after your post. Whoo hooo... Go Biden.
I bet it was a box of donuts for the cops.
Cops like donuts.
He had a warrant for his arrest already. This is no upstanding citizen - no contributing member of society. This is another police hating thug.
Tell Oprah-lite it was difficult to watch because of the willful disobeying of legitimate authority.
This will be hashed out in a court of law, not here on an anonymous message board with a bunch of hyper partisan, opinionated jackasses providing useless opinions about things that they know nothing about.
If we are no longer a country of laws - we are no longer a civilized society.
The problem is the reason behind the rules being broken, and I’m not making excuses for thugs, but the rules are being broken at the highest offices of this land, we know that the breakdown in law and order starts in the Oval Office and permeates throughout our society.
Tell me have you ever contested a traffic ticket and testified after a police officer has lied on the witness stand.
I no longer hold the cops to be any better or worse than anyone else
That’s my point
You have never seen me attacking anyone for having a different opinion than mine, but there are real idiots that think I’m afraid of somebody on the internet trying to bully me because they don’t like my opinion at that point. I will respond to personal attacks I will not initiate them
But let's try to make sense of your vague rambling.
You said that "This shit is going on too often".
"This shit" is kind of vague. I can assume by your snippy reaction that you aren't referring to lawfully abiding citizens given cops boxes of donuts.
But that's all I can tell.
By "this shit", are you referring to people with warrants out for their arrest ignoring orders of police offices to stop?
If so, they is no reason to be so snippy. We are in agreement.
Maybe even someone other than yourself believed your line" about punching down".
Where is dems_rule anyway?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/25/us/jacob-…
tell me is there a protocol in most police departments about shooting an unarmed person in the back That was my original statement where in that statement was an attack on any person participating in this thread ?
Oh I get it you just want to try to boost your cred like when you posted that listening to Bobby Darin was damaging you can go fuck yourself you dickless idiot
Here's the fact, plain and simple. Black Lives Matter is bullshit. All lives matter. Cops are not hunting black people. Minorities are not being slaughtered in the street. There ia nonwidepsread systemic racism in America. The most dangerous thing in America, for blacks and other minorities, are cities with black mayors, black police chiefs, and too many guilty white liberals.
That is most likely going to be the entire court case and knowing the police departments capacity for veracity or not under oath.
There are "protocols" for almost everything we do every day. Protocol dictates appropriate behavior under NORMAL circumstances. According to "protocol" you don't enter someone's home uninvited. So how about you're walking down the street and see a house fire, with a kid trapped inside. Does "protocol" prevent you from running in there to save him if you can?
“A second day of peaceful protests gave way to clashes overnight in Wisconsin.
This comes after 29-year-old Jacob Blake was shot multiple times in the back by police as he tried to get into his car. He remains hospitalized in stable condition.”
Yup. The link in my OP now goes to a revised video. Maybe they realized how utterly ridiculous Gayle King's comments were? Funny because they replaced it with equally stupid shit. Any idiot watching that video of the incident can plainly see that the asshole wasn't "getting into his car" he was reaching for something.
Also, cops are people, and they aren’t always honest. I agree.
To that point, they are human, and they have families. They go to work and they want to return home at the end of the day.
I think there are many folks who view them as something other than human - as they throw bricks and bottles at them.
It is easy for thugs to demonize cops so they have an excuse to riot and destroy legitimate hard working businesses. That’s wrong.
@25 talks about protocol.... we dont know what he reached for... but if it was a weapon the cops shot him because he REACHED FOR IT. Only time will tell what really happened.
Also if you want to talk "protocol" and what not...
The system for hiring people and for police has been going down hill. They dont hire the best anymore because of "hiring" practices. I will make it simple... W=White M=Male F=Female C=person of color.
So the top 10 canidates for 3 police openings are this (in order from highest score possible)
1. WM
2.WM
3.CM
4. WF
5. WM
6. CF
7. WM
8. CM
9.CF
10. CM
You know who gets hired or asked first about the jobs... Not the top two canidates!!.. It would be 3,4,6... and even the WF might get skipped. All to meet "quota's" or "ratios". Not saying that those people cant do the job but just saying they are not your TOP recuits. THAT IS THE ISSUE. Plus look how the attitude towards police has changed. It used to be a "respected" profession. Now would you want to be an officer???
Sorry, I know you believe everything that your mother told you, but you had to find out the truth sometime. She lied to you.
Bobby Darin isn't cool.
So, now on to your question about police protocols.
I am not a cop. Never been one. Never wanted to be one. So I've never read one of their operations manuals. But I can say that your comparison of police to military is ridiculous. Our military is one of the few things the Federal government is engaged in that it does right.
A lot of cops are veterans, but the organizations they serve in are very different.
Now on to your question - though I have never read a police operations manual, as much as cops love donuts, I'm pretty sure that they would advise waiting to see if the person in this situation was going for a box of donuts or for a weapon.
Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong now.
Just like the sheriff in Kenosha said earlier when asked about armed vigilantes supplementing deputy’s “Oh Hell No”
"... A white, 17-year-old police admirer was arrested Wednesday after two people were shot to death during a third straight night of protests in Kenosh ... caught on cellphone video opening fire in the middle of the street with a semi-automatic rifle ... "I just killed somebody,” the gunman could be heard saying at one point during the rampage that erupted just before midnight ..."
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/26/juvenile…
https://www.yahoo.com/news/kenosha-shoot…
But last night's shooting looks quite justified. The first one, he runs away, dude throws a Molotov at him and another guy charges him. And he's so malicious he calls an EMT. Other shootings were after he got knocked down by a mob. If he doesn't shoot, he's toast. Then willingly surrenders to police.
As a minor, where were the parents at?
He has been charged with intentional homocide, when there is a strong indication that this was self-defense. Can he even get a fair trial?
It turns out that they didn't find a box of donuts on the floor board of the drivers side of Jacob Blake's car.
There, I got that out of the way.
The only thing they found there was a knife.
https://www.fox6now.com/news/doj-identif…
Can't wait until the toxicology report comes back on this Blake character. Nobody, while police have guns drawn on them, marches defiantly around their car, opens the door and reaches in for a knife, unless they've got a death wish or they're high as fuck.
Stories about this kid reinforce stereotypes about guys who fetishize assault weapons. He's on social media posing with his guns and taking backyard target practice. He' bullied by his peers. He's photographed in the front row of Trump rally earlier in the year. Unattractive loser.
Kid should have stayed home, masturbating with his assault rifles. First-degree intentional homicide? That's fine with me
I'm just an old white conservative, but if I wanted to make an impact I play the first half and then refuse to come back out.
Correction: Blake or whatever the fuck his name isn't dead, just crippled. The world is worse that he survived and the taxpayers will have to support his ass. The good news is his thuggery and procreation days are ended.
I think the fog has lifted on the Democrats. They realize the hole they, and their AntiFa and BLM supporters, have dug for themselves by burning cities. The public polls are shifting in Trump’s favor. Their internal polls must be devastating.
These are the scumbags being allowed by Dems to destroy cities and violently attack anyone that gets in their way.
Cops don't have thr right to commit extrajudicial executions coz someone doesn't listen to them
https://www.foxnews.com/us/south-carolin…
You are aware that all of this unrest, rioting, violence, boycotting, pandemic have happened on Donald Trumps watch,
Mr Trump has presided over total chaos, it's past time for The Donald to GTFOH, this country has not been this divided, and at each others throats since the end of the Johnson Administration, and Richard Nixon's presidency.
Gotcha Too
Any one wants to say different is full of shit
If I had to guess is it is just because that people on the right don't protest in a violent manner when they are not in power. Most people that are center or right have a full life that includes jobs and family obligations. The current protestors seem to be young and my have their only job as a paid protestor.
Again, just an observation in my time on earth that started in the 60's. The US political system, as it stands now has a way to change things if you feel you are wronged. That is at the ballot box. Destroying the lives of innocent people because they have more than you isn't the way our country was founded on to create change.
There are definitely Democrat cities and they have soaring crime rates because they encouraged the mobs and de-funding police and it hurts everyone who isn't a criminal. Thank god people seem to be waking up. You can try to blame it all on Trump like we see the main stream media trying and no one is buying it.
Then, they used George Floyd to generate chaos. They ordered the police to pull back while Democrat DAs refused to prosecute.
Their strategy was simple. Cause chaos and blame it on Trump. Just like 25 is doing.
For this strategy to work, they relied on the media to lie out their ass. They also required the public to accept these lies without question.
If this had gone on for a week, or a month, it might have worked. But, after many months of this shit, the public has seen through the Democrats lies.
President Trump Hits 51% Approval in Rasmussen Poll – Higher Than Obama at Same Point in Presidency
https://bongino.com/president-trump-hits…
Of note, Rasmussen was among the closest mainstream pollster in approximating the popular vote in the 2016 election. Rasmussen had Hillary Clinton up 1.7 points over Trump on election day 2016, while she ended up winning the popular vote by 2.1 points above him (48.2% vs. 46.1%). The Real Clear Politics average of polls had Hillary up for six points. Unlike the other polls, Rasmussen correctly saw Trump had a path to victory in the electoral college.
Now, after falling to a pandemic low of 42% approval, Trump’s approval has since rebounded to 51%, or seven percentage points above where Barack Obama’s approval stood at the same stages of their presidency.
What it's looking like is that these are Communist Bernie's troops that have been let loose to cause chaos and the Dem party has gone along with it somehow thinking that most people were gonna blame Trump for it - Communist Bernie is supplying the foot-soldiers, the Dem party is going along w/ it so they can win the election, then Communist Bernie is gonna come collect and the Dems are gonna have to give into most of his demands.
How the Dems thought this was a good idea and that Trump would get blamed for it is beyond me - I assume they banked on most of the American people hating Trump so much that they would willfully overlook the obvious.
For every Rino that’s says they don’t like Trump, there are 10 working class whites and blacks who are fed up with Democrat run cities
https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-…
If the races were reversed, there would likely be a non-ending loop in the media about "systemic racism" and "black people being hunted down".
It started with Universities and brainwashing as many college-kids as they could (as many of these Marxist movements do throughout the world) - now they have their sights set on K-12 brainwashing - the first link/video below shows the BLM-propaganda the teachers union is promoting - the 2nd-link is a vid of Elizabeth Warren in a classroom where there is a set of children's block letters spelling out BLM in the background:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=lau…
https://hannity.com/media-room/secret-me…
All the traditional power bases for the left, carefully constructed over the last 50 years, will be dismantled.
All of us have a major investment decision to make over the next 60 days.
Play it safe by going to cash/bonds or let her ride. The most recent rally suggests the market is betting on Trump.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jacob-blake…
"Black Man Yelled ‘Black Lives Matter’ While Allegedly Stabbing White Man; He’s Facing Hate Crime, Attempted Murder Charges"
https://www.dailywire.com/news/black-man…