Somebody told a stripper what I wrote in a review. Not cool.

On the one hand, there's no end to what cunts PLs can be. In this area, PLs were known to pull up the local review site on their phone, then go through it with a girl, all with a "look, how terrible that the guys write reviews" to curry favor with the strippers.

On the other hand, you have to take the hit for writing S***y's name. OF COURSE some cunty PL is going to use that info. Rookie mistake man!

In this case, even with just a description I think I guy could find her and find out her name. But yes, that is the downside of naming. Like I said a debate for another day.

I agree, it’s totally uncool to use any info from reviews or especially PMs with other PLs. There are a few other trusted guys on this board that have shared OTC info with me, and I with them, and it is well understood that nothing gets shared with anyone else, but especially with dancers! Word of caution, be careful what you post, and be careful who you trust with information.

I’ve been outed twice based on reviews I wrote being disclosed to dancers by some game-less douchebag. One cost me a favorite $100 ITC FS girl, who got so mad she blackballed me to others in the club. Pisses me off, as the purpose of monger websites is to share intel, but who will share good specific intel if it ends up hurting you? Exercise subtlety & discretion, PLs. Be an actor & run the con using the intel. Don’t share state secrets!!

Yes, all this asshole had to do was bring up the subject of fun at his hotel KNOWING she is brand new but has demonstrated she is willing and able and would appreciate the money. It would have taken just a tiny bit of game to pull it off. The fact that he did pull it off means he did not need to quote my review to her-- just use the info.

I'd say it's fine to use info (I do all the time) but not cool to share it with the dancers, because if there's something about it that's unique she's going to know where it came from. Should be a common sense thing, and maybe that's where things go awry.

I agree that it was wrong to use the information from your review and to imply that that information was based on a personal conversation.

However, this is also a good reminder to avoid personal identifying information if we are describing explicit sexual interactions. My only exception to this rule is that I'll use names to warn others of a ROB.

Definitely messed up. You made the mistake of sharing too much. But the real offender is the dickhead that abused the info. Why on earth the guy would have gone anywhere near the topic of the girl's weight just shows what an out of touch, no game loser he is.

That’s the reason you never include personal or identifiable descriptions of your mongering, this has happened before and will happen again. Being smart means knowing how to keep your mouth shut or your fingers in this case. It’s really no ones business what you did with whom, remember that.

Thanks for sharing your insights.

-->"That’s the reason you never include personal or identifiable descriptions of your mongering, this has happened before and will happen again. Being smart means knowing how to keep your mouth shut or your fingers in this case. "

Yeah, graphic illustration about how you can kill your own golden goose. If you're not interested in protecting her so she doesn't get in trouble at the club, protect her so your awesome OTC doesn't dry up

"Uncool"- Hi kettle, meet pot. You have no business whining about something that you posted for all VIP members to see when you outed dancer by name yourself. Have you not read founders guidelines that cautions against linking dancers to specific acts ? Have you not read the daily reviews where some critics reject reviews for linking dancers to specific acts ?

For your penance, I'd like you to read every one of rick dugan's reviews, and tell me how many reviews of his outed dancers names, or even initials to specific acts.

You dipshit. Why did you go and do that?

Back to the “too explicit” debate...🙄

Again, the purpose of monger sites is to SHARE INTEL ABOUT DANCERS!! If I just want to know dance/ entry/ drink prices, there’s club websites. I want to know dancer past performance & tip demands; even subjective opinions re looks & willingness are of limited use since tastes vary & YMMV always. I was outed from another website that has limited/earned-access “Adult Review” sections for juicy details (a great concept but not “fool”-proof). I do agree the all-access TUSCL requires more subtlety & is more of a balancing act, but “the Minnow Rule” would gut the utility of reviews & reduce readership on this site. And it seems totally selfish and knight-ish to hoard intel to protect yourself & “your girls”; help out your fellow mongers, dude!! Better to trust fellow mongers to honor the code & not be a douche than to “political correctness” this website into uselessness.

And where exactly do I find this purported “founder guideline” on this website? I’ve looked & found only the common sense advisory that too much detail may kill the golden goose with your own ATF. Again, I agree with a “good judgement” rule, but not some “alles verboten” dictate.

@minnow - How would one write a review to convey that a certain dancer might be up for OTC? The purpose is to share information to help others, right? If I simply state "met a new dancer and ended up taking her OTC" how does that provide any useful info? If I said "met a new dancer- tall, medium build, long brown hair with a goth look and a nice set of B's. Ended up taking her back to the hotel" anyone going to the club can make a good guess as to which dancer it was.

So a little help. How would you have worded it to provide useful info the the reader about what was available?

Hm...everyone did it to themselves.

*The dude who wanted to use your review for his own negotiation purposes. *You outing her and making her activities known without her consent. *And also her for not charging the appropriate rates (which I consider “fair” and TUSCLers would consider “insane”)...which would have naturally filtered out the blab happy customers.

Maybe you should not have named her but the PL who used the info do overtly (rather than covertly) is a dick.

The information is for us to use to formularse your approach not to show the dancer, what a dick.

I was at HK with a fellow TUSCLer when a BG recognized us, I decided to buy her a ficha and she asked me what were saying about her, my white lie: just saying how beautiful she was.

Come on guys, use the intel properly.

-->"So a little help. How would you have worded it to provide useful info the the reader about what was available?"

I don't think there is a consequence-free way to do everything you want to do. You either get to provide useful info to the reader about a specific girl doing OTC, or you get to keep doing OTC the same way you have, IMO. You can't expect you can do both. Even if that one cunty PL hadn't outed you, another might have; or management or one of the other girls could have (and still may) read it, in which case the consequences can be much worse for her. In the days when we had a super-explicit & detailed (we named names) review board in my area, it was the other girls who provided the worst punishment. Protect your OTC or give specific OTC info to the PLs, one or the other, IMO.

There’s no reason to provide information on specific girls if you feel the need to describe your experience do not give out individual details the reviews are supposed to be about the club, there really is no reason to go any farther. If you feel compelled to brag about your sexual exploits wtf is rong with you.

@twentyfive - many reviewers also try to steer readers to the right girls. Are you saying that is wrong?

I think it depends on the club. In this club it was probably wrong to name her and mention she went OTC because it is small and slow.

Not bragging. Just pointing out success at club X, failure at club Y, etc. Trying to help people who come after me. It is tough to strike the balance in how to do that.

The Two Laws of TUSCL:

1. In reviews: Do not use provider names when describing any illegal acts.

2. In a club: TUSCL = Fight Club. You do not talk about Fight Club! You do not talk about TUSCL!

Read these rules. Then read them again. Then have them inked onto your ATF's ass so you can be reminded of them the next time you are raw dogging her from behind.

Then email mailto:[email protected] and tell him you shot your splooge all over her ass to hide the rules - just don't user her name!

@goldmongerATL I’m all about giving folks tips about how to go about getting what they want but steering customers towards certain providers is a nonstarter in my book, remember what she does with me she may not be willing to do for you that’s why it’s always ymmv, if a monger just pays attention to what’s happening here on this board there is no reason that he/she shouldn’t be able to find what they are desiring of, if you need to take them by the hand and coach them every step of the way they’re not ready for this. At the very least before pointing to a specific provider you should ask her if she wants you to do that, I’m sure not having that conversation with her are you, if that’s the case you need to keep your sexual exploits to yourself, I’m sure most of the women would very much prefer it that way.

As I've posted in the past, some guys treat TUSCL as if it was an escort-review site and they expect names along w/ exactly what she-does/doesn't-do - TUSCL is to review clubs not review individual dancers - and as far as I'm concerned what happens b/w a dancer and a custy is b/w them two - there are ways to imply the mileage in a club w/o getting into specific details, and less-so names - and using asterisks to omit some of letters of the dancer's name I always thought was silly.

My standard is never be too specific on activities and never mention a hint of a name. Only exception was when I saw Waffle who is known on this site and posts here. I asked Waffle if I could use her name and she agreed. I never hinted at what activities we got up to and I won’t even if asked in a PM.

So you wrote a review which easily identified the dancer then got outed by another member. Yes neither of you are cool. I don't see a purpose to broadcasting any of thos unless she wanted it.

Now management, other dancers, and possibly law enforcement know this girl is hooking on the side. Outing people online like this may get you a couple brownie points with random pathetic losers on the internet, but there are real life consequences for the dancer. A few instances come to mind over the past few years where young women were bullied on social media and in person for being "sluts" and "whores", only for it to end with them killing themselves.

See? Now sinclair had to take it there and be a downer about it all. He's not wrong, but it sounds so much worse when someone makes it seem like there are actual consequences for real people...

It is a bad idea to use dancer names (or provider names) in a review. I think we know that already. Describing specific illicit acts and giving names is even worse.

In a small club - with a limited set of dancers - a basic description of a dancer can be enough to give her identity away.

The circumstances described were not good.

After most every review I post - I get someone asking for a name - and I refuse to give them a name. I think those guys are the ones with no game - who just want to go up to a dancer and say “I heard from this guy Cashman1234 on a strip club site - that you will suck cock for $75 plus gratuity. I’ll give you $60 and call it even. Let’s go to vip now.”

@goldmonger I hate to be that guy, but take a moment and reflect on why you posted all of those details. It wasnt to help other clubbers but to boost your ego. We all do it, I personally tend to reserve explicit details to private messages. Private message chats are more fun because you can shoot the shit and usually the guys you talk to are educated and have a stable roster of girls they are already speaking to. Posting explicit details on the main board invites the worst type of clubber, the lurker. These are the types who lack the social skills to talk to girls on thier own and rely 100% on intel. Lurkers are also the assholes who stare at you and your girl in the LD room and try to hit on the girl you are sitting with at the bar.

You're an ass...could have alerted LE or management......No names or physical descriptions other than generalities...

I hadn’t posted in this thread yet, but have been consistent in saying we shouldn’t post names and details about extras. One or the other can be ok, but not both. If you’re in a place where a dancer can be identified by description even if you don’t use her name, that’s the same thing as outing her.

Was the other guy a dick for what he did? 💯 percent fuck yes. Should you have expected that it was possible some anonymous dick out there was reading your review and it could come back to bite you? 💯 percent yes.

It sucks but it’s a good reminder to be more careful.

Same happened to me. I hope his dick falls off.

About a year ago I received an PM From one of our fellow members who was referred to me from one of my trusted members circle.

PL was friends with one of my most trusted and was asking for intel on a specific club ..: was especially interested in which of the various extras girls are / might be open to a hotel room romp with an out of towner

Being of help I named a few girls he might want to approach but apparently he outed me as being the source of the info that they were OTC available... thankfully I didn’t provide lurid details but had some back stroking to do when one of the girls called me on the carpet ...

I blocked both my trusted friend and never heard back from his referral friend

Lesson learned. Keep it zipped when strangers are looking to leverage info from your own circle ...

Have a great weekend.

U Would B Surprised Who Reads What & Who Finds Out What Here On Tuscl. Lot's Of Things Happen Through The Grapevine, Wish I Could Have OTC ✔️💲