Can't believe stripper is interested in me -- guess I really am a PL

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loper
just looking for a little human contact along the way
Most popular stripper last night (Monday) making lots of money from other PLs, stops to chat with me, 62 y.o., not now nor ever been a looker, suggests going to dinner for "our first date." I was not spending much money and I don't look rich. It would have taken her out of the club where she was raking it in. I've spent time with her before, and, yes, I guess it's apparent that I have a thing for her, but what is her angle? Does she really just want to spend time with me? Is she expecting some big otc payoff now or eventually? I would like to be neither gullible nor cynical. I chose cynical, unfortunately, and turned her down. Any ideas?

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doctorevil
6 years ago
Sounds to me like she was hungry and wanted dinner.
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gifted_562
6 years ago
I once had a dancer invite me out for drinks. I was down. So she cashed out. We then hit a local bar and went out for dinner. Afterwards we went to a motel and had some fun. No OTC payoff. I just paid for food, the room, and drinks. I never met her before. Sometimes strippers just want some spontaneous civilian fun. You should've taken her out for the reference.
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Papi_Chulo
6 years ago
We weren't there so impossible to know what her angle was - a big part of stripping is manipulating men/custies so particularly difficult for the inexperienced SCer to decipher when a stripper is being sincere w/o ulterior motives.

An experienced SCer can roll with it and see where it goes and is able to nip it in the bud if it goes sideways.

IMO/IME strippers are more in the habit of u$ing custies than wanting to sincerely hang out with the custy bc "he's so interesting".

If one has to ask/wonder what they may be up to then one should probably not be messing with strippes beyond strictly business - the avg PL can easily have hus life turned upside down getting involved with these chicks.
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Papi_Chulo
6 years ago
Could it have worked out well? Sure. But dealing with strippers is often a different ball of wax than dealing with civilians.
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Jascoi
6 years ago
as long as the cost stays under $100 I'd do it... an hour or two of relaxing over dinner with a beautiful stripper ...
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Lone_Wolf
6 years ago
Unless she was saying something like let's go now and meet here, it was most likely just flirtatious hustle.
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Icey
6 years ago
She probably just wanted you to buy dinner in hopes it would get you spending more at the club on other occasions. Or if she had no intent of leaving then, it could have just been a part of her hustle...make you think there's potential.
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bullzeye
6 years ago
Who knows? Next time, try it out and see where it goes.

Just always be prepared to walk away...
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loper
6 years ago
I do think she would have left then, but don't know if her angle was short term, long term, or just straightforward hungry. I am pretty experienced, but this was left me wondering.
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CC99
6 years ago
You might as well say yes, what do you have to lose by going to dinner with her?
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Lone_Wolf
6 years ago
I would guess short term hustle to keep you spending money during that visit.
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Cristobal
6 years ago
No disrespect meant, if you are experienced and have no problem walking away from a bad situation, I wouldn't worry about her motives as long as it was something you wanted to do.

This sounds like a classic case of over thinking the situation.
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Icey
6 years ago
TBH you should have just done it. Questioning it doesn't get you anywhere. There was nothing to lose.
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JohnSmith69
6 years ago
She probably would not have showed up.
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loper
6 years ago
Overthinking. I accuse others of it, but I was guilty myself in this case.
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George123789
6 years ago
Don’t beat yourself up. For one reason or another your safety radar went off and you were smart enough to follow the course plotted by radar.
Take it as an ego positive.
Console yourself that you were not robbed, assaulted, arrested, detained, or seen in the company of a female who obviously was not your spouse.
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Icey
6 years ago
I don't like the negative inferences in this thread. As if she's a bad person and any ulterior motive she might of had is so negative. At worst she was just grooming a regular, which is just a part of the hustle. Not a reason to have a 62 year old man have his ego hurt coz a young girl isn't really interested in him. Maybe his motives were more nefarious than hers....
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Icey
6 years ago
Not saying they were, but hers weren't
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CC99
6 years ago
Its funny how I get called a pussy pansy and other stuff on here but these guys think its reasonable to run away from a dinner invitation.
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Papi_Chulo
6 years ago
She wasn't doing anything wrong - just that many PLs don't see the hustle when they're being hustled and this can be problematic for the PL if the PL doesn't see it for what it is.
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Papi_Chulo
6 years ago
Per the title - sure I can see a hot stripper being interested in someone old enough to be her grandfather - of course she can be intere$ted
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CC99
6 years ago
Even if she was just trying to make him a regular, isn't a favorite who treats you like you're special the goal of every PL? A dancer inviting you out to dinner either likes you or is very good at making her customers feel special. Either way it sounds like a good opportunity to me.
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Icey
6 years ago
CC99 they have very fragile egos, and one trend I've noticed on here from the very start is a paranoia of dancers...they're always afraid of their motives when they're just paying hoes to fuck. Its a lot of projection and guilt
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jackslash
6 years ago
Papi: "sure I can see a hot stripper being interested in someone old enough to be her grandfather"

Thanks for reassuring me.
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Cristobal
6 years ago
@cc99

Great point.

The irony of a pussy pansy being ostracized when a veteran turned down a dinner date.
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SirLapdancealot
6 years ago
IceyLoco posted -> "CC99 they have very fragile egos, and one trend I've noticed on here from the very start is a paranoia of dancers...they're always afraid of their motives when they're just paying hoes to fuck. Its a lot of projection and guilt"

^ ROFLMAO IceyLoco here's a lot of projection and guilt from you too. All are quotes from you in the past, talking about your stripper ho "GF"...

"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."

"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."

"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."

"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."

"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."

^ LMAO IceyLoco, projection much?
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Cristobal
6 years ago
Don't beat yourself too bad:

You didn't have a nice meal with beautiful company, didn't have a few drinks, didn't enjoy some laughter, didn't make out with her, didn't get to enjoy some sex.

My regrets are more about the things I didn't do than the things I did.
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reverendhornibastard
6 years ago
Hot strippers do occasionally get personally interested in their clients. It used to happen to me with some regularity when I was young. Even back then, I strongly suspected I had been singled out for their attentions not so much because I was a hot young stud, but because I was a young man with a professional degree and a bright future. Even when young women who were not strippers showed an interest in me, I always had my gold-digger detection kit ready.

Now that I’m an old fart, I NEVER take it seriously when a hot young lady (much less a stripper) says she wants to be my friend. Even if I’m dressed like a slob, I figure she spotted my expensive watch or saw what kind of car I valet parked.

Unlike our pal, Cristobal, my regrets are definitely more about things I did than about things I didn’t do.

Odds are, you made the right decision in passing on her offer.
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JamesSD
6 years ago
I'm guessing her most recent sugar daddy broke up with her and she is auditioning possible replacements.

Or she's a hooker who strips.
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Papi_Chulo
6 years ago
Nothing wrong with partying with a stripper even if her angle is not being romantically into you - enjoy it for what it is if you can enjoy it for what it is and you know what it is
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CJKent (Banned)
6 years ago
@Loper;

Why would you turn down “a little human contact” in the form of a “first dinner date”.?

I hope you told her you have to take a rain check, and left the door open. You can’t win if you don’t play.

You should ask her out to dinner the next time you see her. Tell her you needed to make plans to make our “first date” special so you both willl remember it for the rest of your lives.

At some point, when she asks you what are you looking for or what you want, tell her:
“I want you to make love to me like it is my last day in this earth.”

Make her laugh, make her relax, if you are meant to be in a relationship (girlfriend and boyfriend, sugar baby and sugar daddy, escort and John, etc) it will happen if not it wont.

Just go with the flow and hopefully you will have a little human contact that will me you happy.

Good luck, and please let us know what you decide to do.

Thank you.
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rickdugan
6 years ago
loper posted: "It would have taken her out of the club where she was raking it in."

This is the assumption that is probably causing you the most confusion. She might not have been doing nearly as well as you think. Or she might have done well to that point, but viewed the current collection of customers as tapped out. Or she was tired of being in the club and thought you'd be good at least for a ride home and maybe more. Or she thought you'd be a good OTC $$ target. Or she really wasn't really planning on leaving right then, but rather wanted to get you on the hook using a promise of a future date.

We have no way of knowing. But sadly, neither do you since you lacked the courage to pursue it once she floated it. A simple statement (with a smile of course) like "Really? And when would you like to have that first date and what are you hoping to achieve with it?" would have answered a lot of these questions. But instead here we are are playing a sheer speculation game. ;)

Don't feel bad about it though. Eventually you'll learn that you're not on the hook for anything other than what you've agreed to give. You'll also learn, with experience, to feel these situations out better. Until then, a knee jerk refusal reflex isn't the worst thing to have. The guys who get in the most trouble are the ones who are too eager to say yes when they don't fully grasp the situation.
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Cristobal
6 years ago
@rickdugan

As usual, you make some very good, balanced points.

I migh the too eager to say yes without fully grasping the situation type, so it's good to read about the other possibilities.
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doctorevil
6 years ago
“As usual, you make some very good, balanced points.” Thats pretty funny. Ricky Boy is the douchebag that thinks you have to wear a suit and pretend to be a chemical engineer to get a girl out of the club. As usual, you make some very good, balanced points.I don’t know why anyone pays any attention to his nonsense.
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doctorevil
6 years ago
Should have been:

“As usual, you make some very good, balanced points.” Thats pretty funny. Ricky Boy is the douchebag that thinks you have to wear a suit and pretend to be a chemical engineer to get a girl out of the club. I don’t know why anyone pays any attention to his nonsense.
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Icey
6 years ago
no, he didn't do the right thing. at most he would have paid for dinner... the experience would have been better than worrying and wondering about it on here after the fact.
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Subraman
6 years ago
-->" I guess it's apparent that I have a thing for her,"

I would have said you're crazy for not taking her to dinner, except that the statement above, coupled by all the hand-wringing about whether she likes you, makes me wonder if you're not in a place emotionally to be "playing house" with a professional hustler
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loper
6 years ago
Part of it is that I feel guilty if her angle is investment in a possible lucrative future with me when I know that I'm not going to increase my spending. But, again, overthinking.
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DeclineToState
6 years ago
Yes, overthinking is my impression. Go to dinner, spend time with a beautiful woman, and if it results in sex then great. But resist RIL impulses and if you can't control the impulses don't do it.
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Subraman
6 years ago
-->"Part of it is that I feel guilty if her angle is investment in a possible lucrative future with me when I know that I'm not going to increase my spending. But, again, overthinking."

If you are not secretly hoping "this means she really really likes me" and don't have a crush on her, you're way overthinking. Going to dinner with a stripper is insanely fun. But if some part of you is covering up a secret longing for her love, stay away.
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loper
6 years ago
Pretty sure that I wasn't hoping that she really likes me -- just concerned about disappointing her by not providing her with any net extra income.
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Icey
6 years ago
She can always find another trick, just get what you want. It would have been a fun night.
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dr_lee
6 years ago
Personally, I wouldn’t have done the date nor had regret. If a stripper I’ve seen in a club for a long time comes up to me unexpectedly then chances are I could live without her attention anyway.
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lopaw
6 years ago
Since you're old she probably thinks you got $$$ and is looking for a sugar daddy. And that doesn't necessarily mean that there's any sex involved either. Just check out the outrageous demands of some of the delusional entitled sugar babies on SA. It's a reality check. You'd get over her real fast.
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