How and how often do you communicate with your CF/ATF
bullzeye
New Hampshire
..and does it translate into OTC?
Since joining here, I almost always try to get a number from a dancer who I’ve had fun with and more often than not, we exchange numbers. With many, communication back and forth, almost exclusively by text, has followed. The following are just some scenarios I’ve run into with three different dancers.
For one, we just use it to let each other know when we’ll be at the club so we can make plans to meet. Works for me and wastes less time at the club if I’m pressed for time. Have gotten to know s decent amount about her (age, RL job, past BF issues, etc.
For another, contact it’s sporadic. But very often, I get unsolicited pics (sometimes with her family included-she has no kids) and requests to meet her at the club. Again, learned a lot about her, including BF issues and family info. Again works for me. Also, for this one, plans to meet OTC have been a clusterf***. But she seemingly still wants to meet and keeps bringing it up. Seems genuinely sincere but it may just be SS.
For another, we text often. Sometimes, everyday when she’s working but almost always weekly. No pics or OTC with this one but it has been brought up. Meeting OTC has been talked about but has not come to fruition and I doubt it will. Gotten to know a lot about this one, too, including RL job, RL name, BF issues, family, RL social media, etc.
All are 9+ in my book. Would do OTC with any of them.
What I’m trying to figure out is how, if anything at all, does frequent contact with a CF/ATF equate to OTC? How often do you hear from your CF/ATF? Is what is described just the usual, and talk of OTC is just SS? Or is there something I can do to be more successful at OTC? Thanks
Since joining here, I almost always try to get a number from a dancer who I’ve had fun with and more often than not, we exchange numbers. With many, communication back and forth, almost exclusively by text, has followed. The following are just some scenarios I’ve run into with three different dancers.
For one, we just use it to let each other know when we’ll be at the club so we can make plans to meet. Works for me and wastes less time at the club if I’m pressed for time. Have gotten to know s decent amount about her (age, RL job, past BF issues, etc.
For another, contact it’s sporadic. But very often, I get unsolicited pics (sometimes with her family included-she has no kids) and requests to meet her at the club. Again, learned a lot about her, including BF issues and family info. Again works for me. Also, for this one, plans to meet OTC have been a clusterf***. But she seemingly still wants to meet and keeps bringing it up. Seems genuinely sincere but it may just be SS.
For another, we text often. Sometimes, everyday when she’s working but almost always weekly. No pics or OTC with this one but it has been brought up. Meeting OTC has been talked about but has not come to fruition and I doubt it will. Gotten to know a lot about this one, too, including RL job, RL name, BF issues, family, RL social media, etc.
All are 9+ in my book. Would do OTC with any of them.
What I’m trying to figure out is how, if anything at all, does frequent contact with a CF/ATF equate to OTC? How often do you hear from your CF/ATF? Is what is described just the usual, and talk of OTC is just SS? Or is there something I can do to be more successful at OTC? Thanks
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Regarding texting my ATFs (my very favorite CFs), my relationship with them often evolves to something more arrangement-ish, and so there's often frequent texting. But things progress to there... usually it starts with just appointment-setting, and some strippers who market more aggressively start sending pics and things to get me in the club. Usually it's all texting; once we're on CF/regular terms, I might be on her snapchat
Having it fall through multiple times is 99% of the time, an indicator she's stringing you along. So is "shooting down all ideas". First girl is above-board, she doesn't do OTC. Second girl doesn't want to lose you as a customer, so is stringing you along for as long as you'll put up with cancelled OTCs. Third girl brought it up to hook you, and is coming up with silly reasons to shoot it down.
Of course, strippers can sometimes be flakey and impulsive, so sometimes a little more effort gets rewarded. But I'd advise not spending a whole lot more time. #2 should get ONE more chance. #3, either work out an idea of what she would be interested in (WTF are you offering that she's shooting these down), or do one last offer, IMO.
IMO OTC is kinda advanced strip-clubbing and it takes some experience and a few stumbles to get better at it.
Too-many newbs/inexperienced-SCers deal with strippers with a civilian mindset which often leads to getting burned in bizarro-world or getting diminishing returns.
Successful strip clubbing, and particularly OTC, is def not an exact science and it's in part more of an art - there's lots of "unwritten rules" per se and nuances along with a good # of gotchas/pitfalls that one usually does not learn in civilian-world.
@sub again good suggestions. I’ll put them into action. And if they don’t work, onto the next one!
For the first one I would say “I have a bad back because a motorcycle accident and woul appreciate if we could do this (the extras that she provides inside the club) in a more comfortable place. If she says yes, make an appointment, date time and expectations and make sure you will be able to show up. If she says no can do. Move on or accept the ITC service if it is worth for you; and don’t bring OTC ever again.
For the second and third; the next time OTC is brought up; make an appointment, date time and expectations and make sure you will be able to show up. If she agrees to the appointment and shows up good, if she cancels, postpones not show etc, tell her that you can make one more appointment and it it doesn’t happen move on.
If you and any girl have failed to honor basic social conventions of being on time and honor appointments in such a fundamental way. A change of behavior is necessary.
Never make promises you know you are not going to be able to keep, and if you make a promise keep it.
If you and her don’t get it by now, adults 18 years or older when will you ever get it?
I have told a Fav before that I don’t wait for doctors, lawyers, teachers, priest etc or even family members more than 15 minutes, without communication or explanation. Now days with cellphones is even easier to let each other know if you are going to be late.
Having people waiting is a power trip, is disrespectful and you would be wasting their time, and time/life is one of the most valuable things.
Needless to say she failed to show up one time for OTC after a handful of meetings, I texted her, no response, I left after 15 minutes.
Next day she gave me a lame excuse she was sick and fell asleep at a girlfriend’s. And asked to please give her one last chance. We meet a couple more times for OTC and it was OK. The third time again she was a no show, after 15 minutes I sent her a text telling her I waited for you 15 minutes for the last time.
I haven seen her after, she texted me and left me voicemail messages apologizing and trying to get together for OTC, I never responded to her.
Make sure that you let her know that you prioritize reliability above almost all other traits as you search for a lasting relationship with an ATF.
My last FAV and I would agree to meet for VIP and was never late, if something came up, we would let the other know and reschedule accordingly. One of the best girls I have had the pleasure, she texted me one last time to let me know she was moving and tanked me for the good times.
I try to stay within the boundaries they allow.
As far as OTC is concerned I just ask, if she says no for whatever reason, I move on.
Too many women, too little time.
If I want her again, I know how to get her attention.
I agree with you, the TUSCL site if used properly can enhance your mongering experience.
But with great power comes great responsibility.
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Yes, why have unrushed sex in the privacy of your home when you can pay twice as much ITC, for sex in some cramped booth, with a time limit, with scary bouncers hovering around, and obnoxious music blaring in the background. To each his own.
In arrangements, I hardly text at all. Older guys that text younger women constantly look needy and pathetic. Let these girls have their own life with peers their own age.