^^^^ Well, some of the girls just like it. Like this with the core group in our underground circuit. Sometimes the guy knows how to turn on the charm. Other times the girls are just competing with each other for backroom gigs.
And Icey, on rare occasions it happens in our own local no touching clubs. Seems like a girl who is just bored, and usually drunk, wants instant OTC.
Other times we have had a club slated for closure and the back room mileage had exploded, and one girl was giving good DFKing to anyone who gave her $1 on stage. She wanted results, meaning back room gigs.
Another time, a girl seemed to be mad at the owners and wanted to re-affirm her self esteem by making an OTC with someone. So she was DFKing.
Some times you have dive clubs where the management does not have much of a whip to crack. Working there is no great privilege. So if they want the women to show up, management just has to remember to always look the other way anytime they see anything they do not like.
Where I learned was long ago at Pre-Deja Vu New Century. I had spotted an extremely cute black girl walking on the side walk. I figured she was an office worker and I was going to try to take her to lunch. But she ducked into New Century.
So soon she was on stage, and finished her set peeled down to just high heels and makeup. And as is San Francisco tradition, she invited another girl up on stage with her, and they did some very showy open tongue kissing.
Then next she was on my lap.
Usually in porno movies I just FF past the girl kissing. But in real life I saw that it was a huge turn on. It is a display of girl power. So I could not help but telling her so. So she instantly told me how much she was enjoying it, and so soon we were making out.
That she could be so open with a total stranger, just blew me away, changed me forever.
Usually when there are women customers they are kissing them. So why not with the guys?
In San Francisco no one is going to say they are breaking any law.
And then we have an underground circuit. Still not supposed to be any kissing, but there is a lot more of it. Those girls all do all the OTC they can, and if that is what the guy wants, that does it.
And then at dives all across this country there are accounts of it being common if not standard. And then in Mexico, it being pretty much standard. Even more at LC and BT. And then as written about the TJ Playboy Bar, the girls approach from behind when you are seated and use both hands to pull your head back and give you zero choice in the matter. Then after about 30 seconds of ramming her tongue into your mouth she will look you straight in the eyes and say, "ficha o arriba?"
And then on black strip clubs . net, and affirmed other places, there was a pretty much standard account. Girl jumps onto your lap without asking. Then she starts licking your neck and nibbling at your ear. As I see it, she is calling you out, defying you to start making out with her.
And numerous tusclers have affirmed that at the mixed race dives of dives across the country, all the girls do it exactly that same way.
Even at the loosest places in CA, it probably is not as good as in the dives in other states, based on what people say.
They say that then the girl will take you to the back room. But in some places they just go to couches in specially darkened corners to finish what they started. More plausible deniability for the management.
And then we have talked about "chair forts" in the early days of high mileage in Dallas and Houston. Improvised privacy. Probably no house cut. And probably no problem with front room DFKing.
On stripper web they are furious about strip club kissing, front room and back room. They tell angry accounts. But this means that it is happening. And others talk about the benefits of wearing flavored lipstick. And still others talk about escorting, and then they all DFK.
I think it just comes down the place and the girl, and then just on how you orchestrate it.
But like some of our own experts say, when you find such a girl you keep seeing her OTC. You take care of her. Such a girl is usually a Sex Freak. So you don't depend on the strip club to deliver that to you any time you walk in. You cherish the ones you find.
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