Do strippers usually makeout

I’ve seen both ends of the spectrum from one that sucks dick if you ask nicely but won’t kiss because it’s “ too intimate” to others who will do a full GFE with DFK but not allow anything beyond light touching. Like all of us, no two are alike.

Gawker nailed it. And then there are the girls that one time make out with you passionately and the next time won't kiss you.

As I said in last week's thread about the exact same topic lol... strippers kissing isn't totally common, but it's not all that uncommon either. It merits a passing mention when I recount the story for my buddies, but no one's surprised. Used to happen more often when I was younger, happening less often as I get older. I go almost exclusively to non-extras clubs these days, so it's always non-extras girls with me.

There's no use trying to figure out why she did it. Nor does it necessarily mean she wants you to be her boyfriend. It does probably mean you've passed some revulsion bar.

I'm not sure I see a clear obvious difference between them... In trying to think it out, I come to the same conclusions as you: non-extras girls both have far more limits already, plus they're being watched more closely in a strict non-extras club. But extras girls are already giving you an awful lot of themselves, so there's little reason for pressure to offer more, whereas it's something exciting a non-extras girl can offer without risking getting fired (though she may get fined if caught). But PLs aren't always great at understanding stripper motivations. I've gotten kissed by more non-extras girls, easily; but in my extras days I was a variety guy and in my non-extras days I've been a CF/ATFer, which in itself seems to raise the probability of getting kissed

It's not common, but it's also not the rarest thing to happen. More likely to happen over time and with growing familiarity.

....and it’s club and dancer-dependent. In a non-extra club I visit, one dancer avoids it at all costs. There are cameras everywhere and the managers/owners are known to watch what happens in the VIP room. Another dancer in the same club has been more willing to LFK but again worries, to a lesser extent, about the cameras.

In another club I visit, dancers say there are cameras but it’s never seemed to stop them from doing ANYthing in the VIP.

Many clubs say they have cameras; it some clubs it seems to have an impact; in others, not at all. You have to know the club and the girl. Good luck; it’s definitely fun when it happens...

....and it’s club and dancer-dependent. In a non-extra club I visit, one dancer avoids it at all costs. There are cameras everywhere and the managers/owners are known to watch what happens in the VIP room. Another dancer in the same club has been more willing to LFK but again worries, to a lesser extent, about the cameras.

In another club I visit, dancers say there are cameras but it’s never seemed to stop them from doing ANYthing in the VIP.

Many clubs say they have cameras; it some clubs it seems to have an impact; in others, not at all. You have to know the club and the girl. Good luck; it’s definitely fun when it happens...

....and it’s club and dancer-dependent. In a non-extra club I visit, one dancer avoids it at all costs. There are cameras everywhere and the managers/owners are known to watch what happens in the VIP room. Another dancer in the same club has been more willing to LFK but again worries, to a lesser extent, about the cameras.

In another club I visit, dancers say there are cameras but it’s never seemed to stop them from doing ANYthing in the VIP.

Many clubs say they have cameras; it some clubs it seems to have an impact; in others, not at all. You have to know the club and the girl. Good luck; it’s definitely fun when it happens...

....and it’s club and dancer-dependent. In a non-extra club I visit, one dancer avoids it at all costs. There are cameras everywhere and the managers/owners are known to watch what happens in the VIP room. Another dancer in the same club has been more willing to LFK but again worries, to a lesser extent, about the cameras.

In another club I visit, dancers say there are cameras but it’s never seemed to stop them from doing ANYthing in the VIP.

Many clubs say they have cameras; it some clubs it seems to have an impact; in others, not at all. You have to know the club and the girl. Good luck; it’s definitely fun when it happens...

... dude...

"Do strippers usually makeout"

Yes, just not with PLs.

Damn..what the hell happened there...sorry mates

DFK does count as prostitution. Technically anything that's intended to turn someone on.

All clubs I've been to have cameras, but the real question is if they actually work....some don't and they're too cheap to fix them.

The whole kissing in a club thing is interesting, I've never seen it.... clubs out here are pretty tough on not allowing it. Plus I don't know any girls who would do it with a trick. A hoe lowers herself when she does it.

If you want the best experience with the girl, then the front room makeout session is the way. Just buying dances is a chump's game.

I believe that when girls do this, they are usually looking for you to see them and keep on seeing them outside. So if you don't take that, then maybe you can't just come back 6 weeks later and expect more of the same.

More than anything I would say that the key is demonstrating generostiy, while at the same time treating the girl as you would any other girl, never as some kind of a prostitute.

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SJG, at what kind of clubs though? I've seriously never seen a club that allows it. Even if you know a girl, staff will discourage PDA a lot of times.

The reason why dancers dont makeout or let every guy finger them is not about high values but about hygiene. 90% of guys who go to strip club practice poor hygiene. I am always amazed when a dancer says "you smell great" I then tell them I took a shower before coming and they say they wish more guys did the same.If dancers made out and let every guy finger them they'd get constant yeast infections and colds.

The only dancers that I know who constantly DFK are the brazilians. Kissing is very customary in thier culture so perhaps they have developed a stronger immune system than other girls.

Select the one you want, the one you want to be waking up in the mornings with, and then proceed.

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@NJBalla, yeah...its about hygiene but its also about them knowing their worth... which for a hoe is as close to values as they get.

@DC, Porn is porn.... they do what they're paid to do.

But are there clubs in the US that allow it? Is it a regional thing?

No, SJG is full of shit and doesn't ever go to clubs let alone make out in the front room.

Why would dancers wanna make out w/ random/strangers in the club - especially if 99% of the time they are there just to make $$$ - if the PL is that irresistible that the dancer can't help herself, then the PL probably doesn't need to be in a strip-club to begin with - does it happen, sure - is it common no - are you special b/c she kissed you, likely no - does it mean you should date her, sure, sanity and emotional-health are overrated.

Half these girl are crazy and half fucked-up - trying to put any kind of value w.r.t. their motives is as prudent as investing in Solyndra.

Fine he is 99.7% full of shit

Actually one of the girls that I'm friendly with clued me into something, she told me that often times the girls that do DFK and LFK are using that as a come on, and really don't provide you with much in the way of extras. She said that by kissing most guys get excited and spend more without her doing any more.

Picking up dancers is very doable, thats's not a problem... if there's a connection or attraction its pretty easy actually.

I also get buying a GFE....and many will do it, although a hoe who knows her worth won't kiss.

I've visited girls I've dated at clubs and we always had management come up to us if we were kissing and warned us... My current main bitch has been fined for kissing me before. In 10 years of clubbing Ive never been to a club where its allowed. So I'm interested in how it goes down or if its a regional thing....

25, everything they do is to turn the guy on and get him to spend more...

^ thus her monetary incentive to kiss PLs and it being busine$$ 99% of the time vs "gee I wonder what this means and if it means she's into me"

DC, IS it allowed in the front rooms at the clubs you go to? How do you bring it up?

^^^^ Well, some of the girls just like it. Like this with the core group in our underground circuit. Sometimes the guy knows how to turn on the charm. Other times the girls are just competing with each other for backroom gigs.

And Icey, on rare occasions it happens in our own local no touching clubs. Seems like a girl who is just bored, and usually drunk, wants instant OTC.

Other times we have had a club slated for closure and the back room mileage had exploded, and one girl was giving good DFKing to anyone who gave her $1 on stage. She wanted results, meaning back room gigs.

Another time, a girl seemed to be mad at the owners and wanted to re-affirm her self esteem by making an OTC with someone. So she was DFKing.

Some times you have dive clubs where the management does not have much of a whip to crack. Working there is no great privilege. So if they want the women to show up, management just has to remember to always look the other way anytime they see anything they do not like.

Where I learned was long ago at Pre-Deja Vu New Century. I had spotted an extremely cute black girl walking on the side walk. I figured she was an office worker and I was going to try to take her to lunch. But she ducked into New Century.

So soon she was on stage, and finished her set peeled down to just high heels and makeup. And as is San Francisco tradition, she invited another girl up on stage with her, and they did some very showy open tongue kissing.

Then next she was on my lap.

Usually in porno movies I just FF past the girl kissing. But in real life I saw that it was a huge turn on. It is a display of girl power. So I could not help but telling her so. So she instantly told me how much she was enjoying it, and so soon we were making out.

That she could be so open with a total stranger, just blew me away, changed me forever.

Usually when there are women customers they are kissing them. So why not with the guys?

In San Francisco no one is going to say they are breaking any law.

And then we have an underground circuit. Still not supposed to be any kissing, but there is a lot more of it. Those girls all do all the OTC they can, and if that is what the guy wants, that does it.

And then at dives all across this country there are accounts of it being common if not standard. And then in Mexico, it being pretty much standard. Even more at LC and BT. And then as written about the TJ Playboy Bar, the girls approach from behind when you are seated and use both hands to pull your head back and give you zero choice in the matter. Then after about 30 seconds of ramming her tongue into your mouth she will look you straight in the eyes and say, "ficha o arriba?"

And then on black strip clubs . net, and affirmed other places, there was a pretty much standard account. Girl jumps onto your lap without asking. Then she starts licking your neck and nibbling at your ear. As I see it, she is calling you out, defying you to start making out with her.

And numerous tusclers have affirmed that at the mixed race dives of dives across the country, all the girls do it exactly that same way.

Even at the loosest places in CA, it probably is not as good as in the dives in other states, based on what people say.

They say that then the girl will take you to the back room. But in some places they just go to couches in specially darkened corners to finish what they started. More plausible deniability for the management.

And then we have talked about "chair forts" in the early days of high mileage in Dallas and Houston. Improvised privacy. Probably no house cut. And probably no problem with front room DFKing.

On stripper web they are furious about strip club kissing, front room and back room. They tell angry accounts. But this means that it is happening. And others talk about the benefits of wearing flavored lipstick. And still others talk about escorting, and then they all DFK.

I think it just comes down the place and the girl, and then just on how you orchestrate it.

But like some of our own experts say, when you find such a girl you keep seeing her OTC. You take care of her. Such a girl is usually a Sex Freak. So you don't depend on the strip club to deliver that to you any time you walk in. You cherish the ones you find.

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I've read here many times that clubs don't allow it. I was never aware of that. Is it really band by management or is it just something the girls don't do out of intimacy and peer pressure issues?

Icey, you treat the girl 100% like a civilian at all times. You do not try to talk her into it. You do not try to buy her into it.

You just turn on some charm and try to set the mood, and then you just kiss her.

SJG

Icey, you treat the girl 100% like a civilian at all times. You do not try to talk her into it. You do not try to buy her into it.

You just turn on some charm and try to set the mood, and then you just kiss her.

SJG

Flag, it is just something the girls do. Often it is prohibited, but not everyone always follows every rule. When it happens, mostly the management does not want to know about it.

Here in this county, LE would find a way to close the club if it were common.

But note that there is no law against kissing pretty girls out on the sidewalk, just inside of the club.

In San Francisco, pre-Deja Vu, there seemed to be no rule. Jim and Artie prohibited FS, and they fired girls who violated. But no other rules to speak of. And all front room. So I believe that kissing was common, though not universal.

Say you just met a girl at a party. How do you kiss her? Well there may be preliminaries, but when it comes down to it, you just kiss her.

While this will not always work, there are some civilian venues where you can just approach a girl and speak maybe nothing more than your name, and then just kiss her. I can personally attest to this.

It has no price, as it is priceless.

SJG

Part of the issue here is that intimate acts happen when the para-sympathetic nervous system takes over from the sympathetic.

Most action comes from the sympathetic. It is Fight or Flight.

But the para-sympathetic is Feed and Breed. So things do not start the same way. Its more like the way girls talk about it, "It just happened".

So if you are embracing, nuzzling, or if she is sitting on your lap, or if you are looking into each other's eyes, if it goes on long enough and there are no other disturbances, then probably something is going to happen.

So you don't want her performing a service upon you, like doing a dance for you. And you don't want to negotiate for sex in an AMP.

Rather, you just want to get friendly with her and let both people get comfortable. It seems to happen when the two people are getting comfortable, letting the sympathetic recede, and then letting the parasympathetic take over. Then it just happens.

Seems that girls are most likely to let this happen a first time, or the first time they have really gotten close to you. They will make the good will offer of letting it go GFE.

But after that, if you don't give contact info and make it clear that you intend to see her regularly, and then do so, on a second meeting she will not open up to you as before.

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Its also about how high mileage a place is. I can see if a girl works 2 days a week for 4 hours then kissing may be on the table, but girls who dance 5 days for over 5 hours usually try to limit the exchange of fluids. Those girls are usually just good for handshakes and billy joel if they customize in it. FS is never an option with a girl who is that high mileage.

I always treat dancers like any other girl.

But I wouldn't just try to kiss them in the club because of how I've seen management react to kissing there. No point in getting them in trouble. Sometimes, I've had girls I know do things that were like our little code, in place of kissing.... like rubbing her pussy through her g string while rubbing noses...

Also, if other people are kissing, it tends to loosen everyone up, beyond just showing that there are no rules.

I once worked the kissing booth at the Renaissance Pleasure Faire.

Some times the first one to initiate kissing in the front room of a strip club will have been a girl. But other times I have been the first.

SJG

You can't replace it, kissing is kissing. But its not a big deal if you can't kiss her at the club. Kiss her when you see her. I wouldn't be able to to a GFE though, it turns me off too much.

the faux intimacy part turns me off.

For me DFK turns me on. I have had DFK front room in several clubs. There was a girl at the Harem in Dayton, Ohio (now closed), Lexie, who would jump up in my lap sideways whenever she saw me and lay a long DFK on me. This happened every time I saw her.
I was at Chablis in Toledo last week and me and my girl DFK'd through 3 songs straight (back room) about 10 minutes before we came up for air while I played with her until she got off.

Well it isn't intended to be faux intimacy.

Buying dances is a chump's game, total bullshit.

So you either leave the club, or you are moving to see your new girl outside, like even walking her outside the door with you, or you start your first makeout session and probably have your first FS right then and there.

Then you take her home with out to continue.

Nothing faux about it. And this is why it usually works best on first meeting with the girl.

SJG

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I think the financial transaction in a GFE is the main thing. Picking up a stripper without that kind of transaction is a lot more appealing to me. Its not that hard if she's your type... Just talk, flirt, make her laugh, get her some drinks, ask her if she wants to smoke some weed or get something to eat. If she wants to and is leaving work early, I'll offer to pay her house fee and tip the DJ out for her... but that's it. Other times just get her number and let her work. A lot of times they'll text when they get home, and you can arrange a date. I also have a rule of seeing a girl at a club 3 times at most and if she doesn't want to by then, I just drop it.

I’m curious what does GFE at a stripclub entail, i imagine it’s different to what escorts do, is it just like making out and asking where your favourite place is to be kissed?

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I'm sure they do more than make out... With eachother

A GFE is basically paying a stripper to pretend that she's like a girlfriend, so she'll cuddle, pretend to like you, act like she's interested in you.

But as I look at it, mostly the money just allows for the girl to be there, all dolled up and available.

You don't have to negotiate her into GFE. You can give her good will money right off. Shows your good intentions, and it shows respect.

Then things can happen, and pretty soon you are making out with her.

The money keeps her away from the complete waste that is the Finance, Insurance, and Real Estate industries. It keeps her in high heels instead of sensible shoes.

Then pretty soon you can probably be waking up in the mornings with her.

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