Met a brand new dancer. First night dancing.

You gave her very valuable insight, but did the bartender really say “slut bucket“?

Well done, sir. Hope she stays safe.

You did the right thing, but unless you get off on being a white knight you should have asked her for OTC. Sounds dirty, but it may be years before you run into another naive girl with low miles. Take it from me, the idiot who procrastinated OTC with a hot girl, with a tongue ring who liked edibles.

you taught her a good lesson.

Both in and out if a club, a person must live with his own conscience.

@boringLooser. Lol. Yes! The bartender calls me her “fovorite bitch”, “slut bucket”, “cum rocket”. I have no idea why. Lol

NJBalla. Trust me. I will next time I’m in there if she is there.

@NJballa kind of negates the entire premise of his lesson.

That was incredibly kind of you man. Sometimes these women are just too gullible and I'd hate to hear another kidnapping story. I never dealt with that myself because I only messed with 25+ year old women so they know the game better than me.

If she was intrested in learning from you, and you were willing to share the knowledge, I think it was a great thing to do and yes, I think you have the potential to pursue OTC with if you wish and she may take you up on it because you were a good guy I have a great deal of success just trying to be nice to people and in general whether it's a dancer or an escort I normally seem to get a bit for mileage then others seem to from what I hear. Just the other day, I met with a traveling escort while I was out of town on business, have a good time and went back to my Room. She texted me a few hours later I'm out said she was bored and want to know if I want to come over for a nightcap I spent 4 and a 1/2 hours with her at no charge that evening. In large part she said it was because I was a nice guy I certainly know it's not from my good looks.

Anytime you prevent someone from being stalked/raped/murdered it's the right thing

On the plus side, kudos for getting so much intel out of her and giving her sound advice about showing future restraint for fear of stalkers. Especially learning of her child support responsibilities, which always helps in assessing long-term p4p potential.

But -1 for being weird about her pouring a drink and that whole camera spiel. You want her to relax with you, not be self-conscious. Now she'll never ask you to be her partner in crime by getting her a real drink, which would make her like you even more.

Overall probably an ok interaction.

Nidan, you did the right thing, no doubt about it.

The drink thing probably wasn’t as weird in person as it sounds in your post. At least I hope not.

But now she she had a better idea how to be sly with the alcohol until it’s not an issue anymore.

Boring, it was odd enough that she had to ask him what he was doing. So yeah, it probably seemed as odd in person as it did in the description here. ;)

My impression is that there’s a bit of a cultural barrier, which usually buys you some leeway

Nidan, I agree that you did the right thing as her overt open book friendliness was apt to lead her to future problems.

@BL: While you're pulling impressions out of your ass, I'll just add that I didn't even give him grief for using the word "Dear", for asking her "permission" to "teach" her something instead of just making his point, and then going on to lecture her. But hey, maybe I'm wrong. After all, we know how much young girls enjoy being lectured by old men, right? ;)

He could've gone with something simple, like "Sweetie, you're awesome, but you might wanna' play it closer to the vest with your info. Some of these guys are a little fucked in the head, ya know? Hey, would you like something better than that crappy champagne?"

Fwiw (not much) I rated him an "ok" on the interaction because she's a new girl and likely too nervous to hold everything against him, but give her a few weeks and she might be looking for the exit a bit faster, lol.

I will keep you all informed on how my interaction faired with her if she and I meet again in 4 weeks. I’m Hoping she is a fast learner in the ways of SC Extras and a willing participant!

She got you to spend on her. Maybe she is on stripperweb bragging about her technique for separating naive, horny old guys from their money.

I think you accomplished a good thing with your advice. I would wonder if her open personality is going to cut it at a strip club. By your last comment I take it her "singing voice" was not singing Billy Joel or Frank Sinatra for you. Sounds like it was an extras club, though.

@goldmonger. Correct. Actual voice. Club is hit miss on extras. I will see how she has acclimated next time in club. My guess is that she will not continue. I could be wrong, but we shall see.

If we take the interaction at face value (more on this in a moment, but mark94 is thinking what I was thinking), then obviously you did a good deed. I honestly have to say I don't know what I would have done in your place. I absolutely get concerned about young, naive strippers, especially when they're displaying behavior that could jeopardize their safety. On the other hand, young people aren't always great about unsolicited advice from old guys who they are hustling, and not to be gratuitously insulting, but IME strippers are often emotionally immature even for their already-young age. Much advice that they smile and thank you for, they're venting about in the lockerroom. So I honestly can't say how or even whether I'd have given her any advice; I have to be in the moment and see how it all reads.

That said, my other thought was, man, she got you to not just spend on her, but to develop downright protective feelings, and think about her so much that you wrote a thread about your interaction with her. My more cynical side says: if she happened to read SW before dancing, her entire backstory, name, etc., could be fake; as could her story about your advice "saving" her with the very next customer. Maybe I'm a cynical old fuck, but I read it 50/50 that we take this whole story at face value, versus played by someone surprisingly good at hustle.

@Goldmonger Why would Frank Sinatra and Billy Joel come to mind? I almost never hear their music played in clubs. I would have guessed Katy Perry or Lady Gaga or Cardi B.

@subraman. All good points. However, she did walk me through a very large amount of her phone photos which showed her in her regular attire, no wig and family photos including dog. So, she was either really good or reall naive.

@flagooner. I’m pretty sure you know who Frank Sinatra (FS = Full Service) and Billy Joel (BJ) is, but we should not assume, correct?

a few years ago it took me a couple of months to figure out billy joel and frank sinatra. (i’m slow.)

-->"@subraman. All good points. However, she did walk me through a very large amount of her phone photos which showed her in her regular attire, no wig and family photos including dog. So, she was either really good or reall naive. "

Yeah, I'm not saying that happened. The outcome has just triggered my PL warning system. I could certainly see some girls hustling, very successfully, this way. But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, and maybe she was that naive, and maybe she did use your advice on the very next customer, etc. Just wanted to bring out that perspective and have it in the back of your mind if you continue to engage with her

While I too, being a cynical old man, believe there’s a possibility she might have been playing you from word one, I also believe you did the right thing, even if she was playing you. All the information you gave her was true, even if she already knew it.

I have definitely given advice to some baby strippers. And although this will piss off some here I have actually told some baby strippers to back it off when it comes to certain kinds of mileage. I treat people how I would want to be treated.

However when it comes to advice I try to avoid giving it directly. Instead of saying "You shouldn't give out your real number" I might tell a baby stripper about how another girl I knew had a customer who would text her 500 times a week and that she was glad she used a texting app instead of her real number. Basically just tell a story about the consequences and solution without directly telling her what to do.

@pauldrake. I like that approach.

Good discussion by all. Thanks