Got a few Newb questions from a new SC fan

1. I don’t know ask them. Probably. I see a lot of black customers do that.

2. Politely decline.

3. Depends on the club

4. Yes this is called Jackpot

1- Smart dancers don't worry about who doesn't get a dance or what anyone else does. They worry about their hustle and focusing on the ones who do get dances.
At most they'll just avoid the guy unless they're Russian or Cuban, then they make a scene and or beg for money.

2- Personally, I would either sit there and tip a few bucks anyways. Or, just get up and sit elsewhere as I see her coming on stage and she is totally not my type.

3- It depends. Some girls pay a fee to not go on stage, some girls want to go on stage. Sometimes a DJ will be a dick and call up girls who don't want to dance or ignore those who do. But there's a schedule set up and everyone is supposed to tend to their rotation.

4- Yeah, it happens. Or a club where there are enough guys but they just don't get dances. A smart girl would try to hustle drinks and make stage money.

1. They mostly don't care as long as someone else is spending money.

2. I just get up and go. Most dancers know that customers have their own preferences.

3. Depends on the club.

4. Yep. It happens on occasion. The dancers who hustle get more dances. The ones who stare at their phone don't make money. Although, if a dancer has already worked all her angles and no one is buying, then there's not much for her to do except play with the phone or chit chat with other staff.

Sorry, in the original post I meant some girls I *NEVER see get on stage, and they are always the busiest girls there. Also, you guys are quick, thanks for the replies.

1. They lean more to the dislike, but once they figure it out, they ignore them.

2. Sitting at the rail is lame. If you sit there tip each girl that gets on stage at least a dollar. It's the cost of sitting there.

3. Depends on the club and the girl. In some cases tenure has advantages. In others the girl can tip extra to not go on stage. DJs usually don't call girls to go on stage if they are giving dances.....

4. Don't jinx it. It's like mentioning that a pitcher has a no-hitter going.

If they're busy and not on stage they paid the DJ

Q1. How much do the girls hate guys who go to the clubs and don't ever get a lap dance? That's me if you are wondering

A1. It seems to be a common-complaint among many dancers having to go from guy to guy throwing themselves at the guy and coming up empty; plus who likes rejection, having to go up to 10-guys and getting 10-no's can be frustrating (some handle it better than others) - there are also the custies dancers refer to as "time wasters" that want a dancer's attention but then don't wanna buy dances - in clubs where there are lots of custies and a good # of custies buying dances, it's not as big a deal b/c they just go on to the next guy - but in clubs where selling dances is not that easy, or it's slow, yeah it'll probably frustrate many dancers - my M.O. is to cut-off a dancer fairly-soon if I am not interested in getting dances from her - but some guys will milk her time and even grope her then say "nah I'm good"

Q2. If I am sitting on the tip rail and a girl I don't find attractive comes up, what's the etiquette? Should I get up and move to a seat in the back

A2. The etiquette is to tip every girl if you are at the rail, o/w it's kinda considered as looking for free per se; i.e. wanting a close-up view but not willing to spend anything for it - it's a little uncomfortable to all of a sudden get up from the rail when a fugly comes up, but you have to leave the rail at some point - but I would not make it obvious and go back and forth from the rail depending on the dancer - no law against that but looks kinda douchey - either sit at the rail and tip every girl, or sit back and approach a girl you like at the rail and go back to your non-rail seat after you tip her

Q3. How is the stage rotation set up? I see some girls go up 3 or 4 times an hour, and some other girls I have seen get on stage, those seem to be the prettiest girls in the club as well

A3. As has been posted, there is typically a rotation where every girl has to go on else they'll likely get fined - as others mentioned, some girls rather pay the fine (or a tip) to not go on stage; in some rarer cases a long-standing dancer that's been there many years may get special consideration - and in some cases a dancer that makes the club a lot of $$$ (selling VIP rooms, etc) may get special treatment - but generally in most clubs most of the dancers seem to hit the stage

Q4. Have you ever seen a club with too many girls? At one club I have been to twice, there always 30-40 girls working and sometimes as little as 10 customers, so I see the girls just sitting and chatting or on their phones. How do they even get dances in these cases

A4. Popular clubs are usually considered good-$$$ clubs so they'll get many dancers - also house-fees the dancers gotta pay in many clubs increase the later the dancer shows-up - so many dancers may decide to show when there are not that many custies in order to pay a lower house-fee and then wait till it gets busier to make their $$$ - it's hard to know how the dancers are making their $$$ or how much they make, could be they just accept slow days and make good $$$ on the good/busy days, who knows - also many clubs force dancers to dance specific days even if they don't wanna be there or there are not many custies - so they just show-up and kinda mail it in and wait for a better day like a busy weekend night to make their $$$

Buying dances is a chump's game. Identify the girl you want, the one you want to be waking up in the mornings with. Approach her yourself, show generosity and some charm, and get a front room makeout session going.

Only when it is time for your own pants to come down, then you invite her to the back room, then take her home with you to continue.

There is no need to take what is offered in strip clubs at face value.

SJG

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Yes to clarify on #2 not many clubs in my region don't really have tip rails, but if you are sitting, Yes do tip at least a dollar. It's lame, but you decided to sit there. Some clubs there is ONLY "tip rail" seating.

In the early 1990s I remember clubs still operating with a bit of burlesque mode... The stage really was the show and the reason to be there... to even sit by the stage, cost a higher ticket fee than sitting at a table.

I was surprised to resume clubbing in the 2000s, and learn that you could sit anywhere and only tip if you felt like it.

I think at many clubs now, the stage has degraded to simply showcasing available dancers. Or, almost an orchestrated way for the DJ to pry ladies away from regulars, and give a few other guys a moment to chat with a dancer for a few bucks.

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Thanks for the info. I kind of figured the girls will think I am just a cheap bastard, but I don't really like lap dances, nothing against the 44 part of it. Papi VCs get insulted if I only throw a buck or 2.

Lurker_X said "n the early 1990s I remember clubs still operating with a bit of burlesque mode..."

Yeah. I remember that. I was in Los Angeles at the time. Sometimes I miss it. It's old school but a dancer with a good act could be a lot of fun.

C.I.M. - Yep, the girls still wore costumes (nurse, secret agent, etc.) danced to some specific theme music, and actually teased and stripped out of them... Guys would still whoop and cheer with each piece of clothing that fell.

There are guys who never buy dances but stage tip.

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" 4. Have you ever seen a club with too many girls? At one club I have been to twice, there always 30-40 girls working and sometimes as little as 10 customers, so I see the girls just sitting and chatting or on their phones. How do they even get dances in these cases?"

There can never be too many girls.

I don't worry about how they get dances, I see as a opportunity: getting more dances for less, dancing with the hottest dancers without having to wait, getting more socialization, and my personal favorite more extras (occasionally).

As far as girls talking to each other or on their phones, this is not a junior high school dance where you need permission to approach, some of my experiences have been talking to dancers who seem to be busy.

The clubs where I go have a rule regarding stage dances, well rules: The fattest dancers never dance, nor do the oldest ones. The less attractive dancers dance the most, although the set rotation says otherwise. The disparity? In these clubs a dancer can get out of her stage set if she gets an offer for a CR. The smart dancers make sure they always get one when they get the one song notice they are up next and I admit that rather than lose the dancer I waswith Saturday night I had her cancel her stage set and went to the CR area. It was kind of funny waiting in line behind my former ATF who is friends with the dancer I was with but wouldn't acknowledge her existence (even after an ass slap from her) for fear of turning around and having to see me lol. Never ceases to amaze me how the dynamics of a strip club arte so similar to the dynamiocs of my job.

1. How much do the girls hate guys who go to the clubs and don't ever get a lap dance? That's me if you are wondering.
Not at all as long as you tip on the stage, or tip for conversation. If a guy wants to nurse a beer and spend 0 money I don't care as long as he leaves me alone and doesn't stare or try to talk to me but I have seen dancers go over and yell at guys for not spending any money

2. If I am sitting on the tip rail and a girl I don't find attractive comes up, what's the etiquette? Should I get up and move to a seat in the back?
No, that's rude. It's not going to kill you to watch a girl who isn't your type dance around for a little bit. Set down 1-2$ and wait for the next dancer unless you're done sitting at the rail for a while, then it's ok to go back to a table. If you get up and move just for one girl's set and then go back to the rail right afterwards you will look like a weirdo asshole

3. How is the stage rotation set up? I see some girls go up 3 or 4 times an hour, and some other girls I have seen get on stage, those seem to be the prettiest girls in the club as well.
Depends on the club. If you're noticing the prettiest girls never going on stage, it's because they pay the DJ to keep them off. Unless there is a lot of money flying around on stage the more popular girls don't want to waste their time and energy putting on a show for $3 when dances are 20

4. Have you ever seen a club with too many girls? At one club I have been to twice, there always 30-40 girls working and sometimes as little as 10 customers, so I see the girls just sitting and chatting or on their phones. How do they even get dances in these cases?
Most clubs make the girls stay for a certain amount of time like 5 hours and even if they don't- most money is made during the last hour of the night so until then they just sit around since you can't just show up at 1am.

Or maybe they are escorts who just came in to find customers to meet OTC and don't care about giving lapdances. Who knows. I don't get why guys are always so concerned about dancers being on their phones??? As if people who work in office cubicles actually spend 100% of their time in the office doing work and don't sometimes text or fuck around on facebook or whatever..

April, thanks for that information. it's very helpful. I have never actually gotten up and moved from the rail to go right back, but I admit a few times I wanted to if the girl was very unattractive or pushy with dances. Regarding the rotation, what you describe is what I thought, the hottest and busiest girls in the club can pay to get out of the stage show, and since they are probably making so much they don't care. I do also see some very attractive dancers go up multiple times though, so maybe they just want to advertise so to speak.

Wanted to also post my thanks to April for the info. On the topic of leaving the tip rail when a dancer you dont find attractive is up only to return later I have been guilty of that in the past. There is no strip club etiquette handbook, TUSCL is the closest thing to that. So prior to finding this site I wasn't knowledgeable about certain unspoken rules. Tipping a couple bucks is certainly not gonna break the bank, even if I have to watch a girl that doesn't do a damn thing for my mojo.

I swear this site needs some stickied threads for info like this. Would help out a lot of newbies, as well as non veteran patrons such as myself.