In a nutshell, this explains how the nanny state missuses the concept of trafficking.
“When a tweet accused Marriott Hotels of "working with the feds and keeping [an] eye on any women who are traveling alone," training staff to "spot an escort," and "not allowing some women [to] drink at the bar alone," Marriott's official account proudly confirmed the observation: "You are correct. Marriott employees all over the world are being trained to help spot sex trafficking at our hotels."
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last commentNice - I can see some Marriott employee with barely a high-school education calling the cops on a business woman traveler for having the balls (per se) to sit at the bar alone and have a drink.
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I guess Marriott should be scratched as possible OTC hotels.
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I wish I never had to hear the term sex trafficking again. It’s a real thing but has been so misused it has been rendered completely meaningless. It’s a very loaded term.
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Late Breaking news
Cindy McCain, the widow of the late Arizona Sen. John McCain, apologized Wednesday after Phoenix police disputed her claim that she stopped a human trafficking attempt at an airport.
McCain saw a woman of a different ethnicity with a young child and told police that she suspected trafficking. Police did a welfare check on the child and found nothing wrong.
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As an Arizonan, and a libertarian/conservative, I reached a point where I despised John McCain. He was an attention-seeking, unprincipled opportunist.
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Back to the OP.... what happened in McCain's story is what will happen alot.
Like mentioned if any good looking, dressed up woman is at the hotel bar, restaurant, etc "alone" some nitwit will think "trafficking" and make calls. I agree most Marriot hotels are off my list now to visit just for that reason. Not even for OTC or "escort" type activities. Their stance is like FOSTA law and it is BS. I read an article the other day that showed in SF that "sex trafficking" crimes or arrest have gone up since that law was enacted. Since the law was supposed to "curb" sex trafficking it is pushing more into it. Which is horrible.
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But if it protects even 1 victim of human trafficking, it is a measure well worth taking.
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Here’s hoping for one lawsuit from a well dressed businesswoman in a hotel bar, and for Marriot getting hammered.
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^^^Thinking the same thing George. She could clean up.
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I was downtown Atlanta the Tuesday before the Superbowl to meet some business associates for drinks. One of the customers I was meeting was a VERY attractive 20-something. Although dressed in a business suit, she got hit with this bullshit. She was the first of us to arrive. A manager came up to her in the bar and asked if he could see her room key. Have a clue, dude. Most people at you bar at lunch are not guests. She was not a guest and he was in the process of calling security to make her leave when her boss showed up.
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^ crazy story :o
Yeah, this is why I hate the word “trafficking”—especially in the sex industry. It was actually the internet, from what I’ve heard, that allowed many sex workers to be independent in the first place.
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Yeah, they were still talking with the manager when I got there. He had the balls to imply it was her fault for being there alone. What is this? 1950? She was pissed. Her boss was pissed. My boss was pissed. I was staring at her tits.
I also looked around and saw several women there by themselves, but they were all either much older or not attractive in the least bit.
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Badda bump.
So a couple friends decided they wanted to go try out dancing in another city. And booked the Marriott as their place to stay.
Got harassed from staff for dressing provocatively (dresses, tank top, shorts that cover butt). Specifically asked if they were lesbians dating each other. Was being questioned for leaving the hotel and coming back after 2 am. Had their room searched even though the sign was up for do not disturb.
Good lord. I’ve been staying in Airbnbs and can happily state my experiences have been much more pleasant. 😐
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Soo much for my new Bonvoy Credit Card...😇
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prudish oc over reacting seems to be one of america’s traits...
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‘oc’ should be ‘pc’
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@nicespice, what does one expect from a bunch of Mormons ( Marriot was founded by a Mormon, J. W, Marriott, and most of their board of directors are Mormons)
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25: I had no idea Marriott was founded by Mormons. I stay at either Marriotts or Hiltons when I travel. I’ve never had an issue coming back to either chain in the early morning hours with some new found company.
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^ that’s where their church lady approach to sex trafficking comes from.
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I have heard stories about Marriotts campaign against sex workers for years. I think a lot of it depends on local management. I was approached by an escort in the lobby of a Marriott chain hotel in Anchorage. Unfortunately or fortunately I was waiting on some colleagues and had to decline.
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^ Some Marriotts operate as licensees others are corporate owned, I’d assume The licensees are more liberal in their enforcement of policy
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pc.
just say ‘no’ to PC.
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Yeah, I had remembered reading something from a few months ago. And I definitely remembered goldmongerATL’s post. (Which is why I bumped this thread)
I didn’t realize it was that highly Mormon but that makes sense now. Definitely illuminating. Most of the various Marriotts I’ve stayed in was when I was visiting with my EX BF (before he left me for a pack of hombres) and I had no problems at any location. But then again, I did have my patriarchal chaperone with me so that’s probably why.
It’s amazing they can get away with their behaviors and target 20something year old unaccompanied females the way they do. But since it’s in the name of “trafficking” I suppose that’s why feminists aren’t up in arms about this. Despite being a long standing problem.
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Given how Austin seems to have become the Bachelorette capital of the country, recently, my guess is that downtown Austin hotels, whether Marriott-branded or not, don't go down this road with women drinking in their establishments.
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"... It’s amazing they can get away with their behaviors and target 20something year old unaccompanied females the way they do ..."
I would think if this happened and the girl was willing to take legal (at least civil) action, that Marriott would likely lose the case and probably be forced to change their practices (at least their more draconian practices) - they seem to be basically profiling mostly based on the look of a person(s)
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Ya gotta love liberals. If a woman wants to murder her child 14 seconds before the child is born; its "thgeir body". If an adult woman wants to sell her body, its violence against women. Boycott Marriott, not that I am a rich person who wouldstay there. When I used to stay in Pompano I chose the Days Inn, because hookers in the hallways would call you a faggot if you declined a blow job.
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LOL - I need to stay at that Days Inn 😄
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The signs aren't that simple, but yeah a prostitute at a hotel bar is a likely candidate for a sex trafficking victim.
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All prostitutes are trafficked, except for the ninety nine and one half percent that are not.
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Skibum, according to the legal definition of sex trafficking, yeah most are....
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Mormons are decent human beings and Salt Lake City is a far better place than any of the cities on the coast by a large margin. Bigotry towards mormons is just another example of the mental illness called Progressive politics.
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^ I never said they weren’t decent people but the church itself demands fealty and patriarchal thinking dominates that community ie; their stance on multiple wives, sexually permitted behavior, homosexuality etc.
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I used to stay at Courtyard Marriott properties, but switched to Hilton because I liked their rewards program better. On at least two occasions, while using in-house Wi-Fi in a Marriott property, I would try to bring up TER, EROS, or similar site, and would get blocked with a pop up that the website I was attempting to access did not meet their standards for a family-friendly environment. I don’t think you can rent porn in Marriott hotels either.
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I don't like any organized religion..... Judaism, Mormonism, ISlam, Christianity....every Abrahamic faith is very patriarchal, sexist, homophobic, etc....
That said, SLC is impressive in a lot of ways. Its in a conservative state, but their politics are very pragmatic and progressive in many ways. Mayor Biskupski is a progressive and a lesbian...
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Strange I never had any problem logging into EROS, TUSCL or other sites in Marriott properties. Then again it's been at least 3 years since I booked one, like you I mostly use Hilton because of their rewards program, and Holiday Inns if all the reasonable Hilton's are booked up.
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Marriot also puts Book of Mormons in the cabinets next to the bed.
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Biggest escort agency in NYC always rents Marriot :-p
If the girl doesn't have an appointment in the next hour and likes you, you can go have food in the hotel lobby and share a plate of food and have her put fork of food in your mouth like you are a kid, and you can feed her 20 mins before cum filled mouth until they text her she has another appointment coming up.
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Your paranoid delusional ass is talking about normal? lmfao
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One airline Captain allegedly made PA announcement (1970's incident) : "Welcome to Salt Lake City, you may now turn your calendars back 50 years." He got some time off for that.
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From what I gather, Utah has changed a lot since the 1990s....
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@Papi, the Marriott chain is fairly religious, the Mariotts are prominent Mormons. Could be the reason.
I guess you should stick with hotels from a sluttier family, like Paris Hilton's, lol
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