The white racists only started transferring to the Republican Party after Brown v Board. Remember, Strom Thurmond had previously been a Democrat. The big shift started in 1968 with Richard Nixon's Southern Strategy.
By 1984, there were still some White Racist Southerners who were still Democrats. Not sure if there are any left today.
Of Northam, though still a Democrat, maybe he is no longer a racist. Hard to say. George Wallace after all did apologize for promoting segregation. Some times people can change.
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I have never gotten a "White Supremacist" vibe from Northam. The picture was taken in 1984, THIRTY-FOUR YEARS AGO, while he and his partner were still in college.
How many of us could truly say that every decision we made as young people we in perfect taste, offensive to no one, and in general, completely thought out? Damn few, I'd wager. I consider myself to have been a good kid who didn't want to hurt or offend anybody; looking back, I have to say, "What the hell was I thinking when I did/thought/said that?"
As long as he's treated with the same respect and decorum that was afforded to Kavanaugh for his poor choices as a youth, I see no reason for Northam to step down.
He was 25 and in med school. He was an adult. He should resign. This isn’t a Democrat/Republican issue. It’s a racism issue. “How many of us have done things when we were younger...” isn’t applicable. He’s the governor of a state and should be better than the rest of us. At least, the voters should have had this information when they voted. Resign.
This should be a wake up call to young people that in today’s world, nothing you ever say or do, ever goes away.
Just when you least expect it, that stupid shit you did thirty years ago in a different political climate is judged using new rules that were not in existence at the time you did that stupid shit.
This topic made me think of something. I looked up the definition of "racism", Merriam Webster has it as: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. OK, sounds accurate enough. Then I looked at antonyms for racism. Two came back, fairness and tolerance.
OK, that said, the left always tosses around the "racist" label about anyone that disagrees with them. So then, if they are the opposite of racist, they would be fair and tolerant. OOPS! They are anything but, so wouldn't that make them racist? Just sayin'!
This was over thirty years ago, times were different. Blackface was a part of comedy routines. When I was in college in the late 70's, my fraternity had Aunt Jemima parties that had large turnouts off all races. He has had a public career that does not appear to be racist. Based upon that, I do not feel he should resign.
However, due to current PC extremes brought on by liberals and their fake outrage, to be consistent he should resign. Otherwise the liberals will just show once again how hypocritical they are.
As a side note, I read that this was only uncovered because he did something to piss off the DNC and they are retaliating. It is interesting that his replacement is AA.
So I'm wondering, Are politicians ever forgiven for being a racist in the past or are they deemed, once a racist, always a racist? I never wore a KKK outfit and don't think that's funny. I consider it a hate group and over 30 years ago, thought the same way.
I don't live near Virginia so haven't followed the news too much.
^^^^^^ This is also as it comes across to me, but VA is not the most extreme, being the upper part of The South. Gets worse and worse as you go further South.
This is why in my travels, in that entire region, I will start by associating only with Blacks, going to Black strip clubs, engaging their girls in Front Room Makeout Sessions, and waking up with Black cuties in the mornings.
In that kind of an area, Blacks will always be far smarter than Whites, and it is kind of like that here too.
I’m not at all surprised that that racism crosses party lines. The most amazing part of the story is that the 1984 Eastern Virginia Med School yearbook has several pictures of men in blackface, not just Northam’s page:
…although the KKK picture is the one that I personally find the most repulsive. Growing up in California, I just can’t imagine med schools like UCLA, USC, or UCSF allowing anything so cringeworthy, cartoonish, and racist in a yearbook. Who the fuck was editing the yearbook? George Wallace? David Duke? The yearbook obviously captures a culture of racism that was openly accepted in Virgina as late as 1984 – 20 years after the civil rights movement. Reinforces all the cartoonish stereotypes I have out the South.
^ Had to be David Duke by 1984 George Wallace had renounced his previous racist stance and was positioning himself to the left of Lyndon Johnson who was an admitted racist and segregationist, himself, yet he probably did more to advance the cause of equality, than any prior president.
"...advance the cause..."? Seems what has come about is the exact opposite of advancement. Example. Where there were once nice black neighborhood, there are often crime ridden slums. I can drive about 7 miles and see it up close and personally. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 had great intentions and some came to fruition, but sadly there have also been dire consequences.
DC, I am sure the under 25 set in Virginia is super liberal. But it barely went for Hillary in 2016, and a huge chunk of that is northern Virginia DC suburbs.
Virginia suffers like most of the country where old white men vote in disproportionate numbers so the electorate is more conservative than the people on the whole
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The white racists only started transferring to the Republican Party after Brown v Board. Remember, Strom Thurmond had previously been a Democrat. The big shift started in 1968 with Richard Nixon's Southern Strategy.
By 1984, there were still some White Racist Southerners who were still Democrats. Not sure if there are any left today.
Of Northam, though still a Democrat, maybe he is no longer a racist. Hard to say. George Wallace after all did apologize for promoting segregation. Some times people can change.
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Why should Northam resign when he could just switch parties and feel appreciated?
BTW, I hear the guy in the in KKK suit is really @GammaNu.
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I have never gotten a "White Supremacist" vibe from Northam. The picture was taken in 1984, THIRTY-FOUR YEARS AGO, while he and his partner were still in college.
How many of us could truly say that every decision we made as young people we in perfect taste, offensive to no one, and in general, completely thought out? Damn few, I'd wager. I consider myself to have been a good kid who didn't want to hurt or offend anybody; looking back, I have to say, "What the hell was I thinking when I did/thought/said that?"
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Needs to go, now.
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As long as he's treated with the same respect and decorum that was afforded to Kavanaugh for his poor choices as a youth, I see no reason for Northam to step down.
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I would agree if there was evidence for both. There isn't.
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I was being sarcastic
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How does no one get your sarcasm? Lol
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He was 25 and in med school. He was an adult. He should resign. This isn’t a Democrat/Republican issue. It’s a racism issue. “How many of us have done things when we were younger...” isn’t applicable. He’s the governor of a state and should be better than the rest of us. At least, the voters should have had this information when they voted. Resign.
I voted for Hillary.
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This should be a wake up call to young people that in today’s world, nothing you ever say or do, ever goes away.
Just when you least expect it, that stupid shit you did thirty years ago in a different political climate is judged using new rules that were not in existence at the time you did that stupid shit.
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This topic made me think of something. I looked up the definition of "racism", Merriam Webster has it as: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. OK, sounds accurate enough. Then I looked at antonyms for racism. Two came back, fairness and tolerance.
OK, that said, the left always tosses around the "racist" label about anyone that disagrees with them. So then, if they are the opposite of racist, they would be fair and tolerant. OOPS! They are anything but, so wouldn't that make them racist? Just sayin'!
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@Founder beat me to the exact statement I was going to make.
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@Jimmy: I voted for Hilary as well and would again, though I did hold my nose while I pulled that lever.
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Wow 25, I’d never have thought you would have used that same comment during the Kavanaugh hearings.
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^ why would you say that ? I actually did boss .
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There are many ways to react to this.
This was over thirty years ago, times were different. Blackface was a part of comedy routines. When I was in college in the late 70's, my fraternity had Aunt Jemima parties that had large turnouts off all races. He has had a public career that does not appear to be racist. Based upon that, I do not feel he should resign.
However, due to current PC extremes brought on by liberals and their fake outrage, to be consistent he should resign. Otherwise the liberals will just show once again how hypocritical they are.
As a side note, I read that this was only uncovered because he did something to piss off the DNC and they are retaliating. It is interesting that his replacement is AA.
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So I'm wondering, Are politicians ever forgiven for being a racist in the past or are they deemed, once a racist, always a racist? I never wore a KKK outfit and don't think that's funny. I consider it a hate group and over 30 years ago, thought the same way.
I don't live near Virginia so haven't followed the news too much.
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It's all bullshit. People change over time. Kavanaugh should have never been treated the way he was, and Northam I'm sure is no racist.
But in this world of immediacy that we now live in, public outcry is given too much weight.
That being said, anyone who calls Trump a mysognist for things said on a bus 15 years ago must also call Northam a racist, and Kavanaugh a rapist.
Thank God all I do is run a Strip club website. I'd hate to be under a public microscope.
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Exactly. My reason for posting this was to see what kind consistency there was opposed to how much opinions were based on political ideology.
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I basically have to assume every white person from Virginia regardless of Party is a racist still bitter about not being able to own people anymore
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Exceot Patton Oswalt. He's from Virginia and his fat ass is awesome.
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^^^^^^ This is also as it comes across to me, but VA is not the most extreme, being the upper part of The South. Gets worse and worse as you go further South.
This is why in my travels, in that entire region, I will start by associating only with Blacks, going to Black strip clubs, engaging their girls in Front Room Makeout Sessions, and waking up with Black cuties in the mornings.
In that kind of an area, Blacks will always be far smarter than Whites, and it is kind of like that here too.
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Sarcasm? I didn't know it was allowed here!
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I’m not at all surprised that that racism crosses party lines. The most amazing part of the story is that the 1984 Eastern Virginia Med School yearbook has several pictures of men in blackface, not just Northam’s page:
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…although the KKK picture is the one that I personally find the most repulsive. Growing up in California, I just can’t imagine med schools like UCLA, USC, or UCSF allowing anything so cringeworthy, cartoonish, and racist in a yearbook. Who the fuck was editing the yearbook? George Wallace? David Duke? The yearbook obviously captures a culture of racism that was openly accepted in Virgina as late as 1984 – 20 years after the civil rights movement. Reinforces all the cartoonish stereotypes I have out the South.
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^ Had to be David Duke by 1984 George Wallace had renounced his previous racist stance and was positioning himself to the left of Lyndon Johnson who was an admitted racist and segregationist, himself, yet he probably did more to advance the cause of equality, than any prior president.
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Both parties represent the same system, they're products of it....and when that system is racist....
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"...advance the cause..."? Seems what has come about is the exact opposite of advancement. Example. Where there were once nice black neighborhood, there are often crime ridden slums. I can drive about 7 miles and see it up close and personally. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 had great intentions and some came to fruition, but sadly there have also been dire consequences.
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Most of the country is actually Right Populist.
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DC, I am sure the under 25 set in Virginia is super liberal. But it barely went for Hillary in 2016, and a huge chunk of that is northern Virginia DC suburbs.
Virginia suffers like most of the country where old white men vote in disproportionate numbers so the electorate is more conservative than the people on the whole
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^^^^^^ Also a place where Christian Nationalism is undoubtedly strong.
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