Ever pay a girl to sit with you?

There is nothing wrong with that. Its actually pretty common

It depends on the girl. I mean if you read stripperweb you're gonna hear girls wanna charge lapdance rates or vip rates to sit with him out on the floor. Im cheaper than that, but I'm also not gonna sit with someone for like $50 an hour unless it's super dead. Sorry if that is too vague.

I have a locals place where the lap dances suck so I won’t participate but the girls are generally hot and friendly.
Yes I’ve sat at the bar and dropped a $20 on a dancer and bought her a drink to sit and chat for a few and have her hang on me. I wouldn’t do that if I intended to eventually take her for a dance

I don't pay dancers to sit with me. I will buy them drinks if I like them.

I just tell the guy I'd love to but I need $200. If they really want to they'll pay.

You figure it out by trial and error.

FIRST, You might also tell her (after 9-10 minutes) that you're going to get dances with her, just not right now. She might stay for free for a awhile just knowing that it's a definite sale.

SECOND, Or offer free drinks, instead. Some will stay for free drinks for now, knowing there's a dance sale at the end.

THIRD, Other than that. You just need to read her body cues. If she's getting antsy, you might need to tip her $5 every now and again. If it's dead or there's not (sausage fest), you might need to tip more. In the past ('90s boom times) I might have had to tip $20 every now and again, for up to $60-120/hr for paid convo to talk. Nowadays $10-$60 an hour gets most dancers.

Just feed her a $5 after 9-10 minutes, before she makes her sales pitch for dances. Let her know you'll get dances with her, just not right now. For now you want to stay and socialize. That $5 sets you up in her mind as a paying customer. You might not even need to tip beyond that as dance dancers have shit for hustle or can't tell time for shit. When you notice her getting antsy, tip another $5. That's why I said it's trial and error.

FOURTH, I find tipping to convo often results in her pitching me OTC offer. So there's another upside.


Note, the guys were will openly tease you for tipping a dancer to sit and talk. Just disregard unless you club dayshift or weeknights. Fri/Sat nights I find I have to tip a little.

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If it's dead or there's not ** much $$ on the floor, say 3:1 dancer to PL ratio, you might not need to tip anything. If it's busy and there's a 3:1 PL to dancer ratio** (sausage fest), like it is when I club, then you might need to tip more. At least $5.

Thanks Dominic that's very helpful. Sounds like a good approach.

Pay someone to sit with you?! What??? Why on Earth would you do that?

I've never paid anyone to sit with me. If they leave because you don't tip them then let them leave. There are plenty of others that will come around

^^^Willy, see what I mean? ;)

Depends on how much you like her company. Plus paying for convo is really a throw-back to the 1990s "boom" times when dancers made lots of stupid money. Often you'd get 20 minutes for free, she'd ask for a dance, then excuse herself. If you bought a dance for every 20 minutes of convo, the money would fly out of your wallet at a faster rate.

Obviously, if she's staying for 3 hours uncompensated, then, yeah DUH, you don't need to tip. that's why you need to read her body language. It's not pathetic. It's just proactively trying to get what you want out of the visit.

But nowadays the guys say you don't need to tip for convo, and for most part, they are right. The girls don't make $$$$ like they used to and will work for whatever tips and dance sales they can.

Also it works in your favor if you visit on slower shifts, week days, week nights, and avoid weekend nights. It also works in your favor if you're a known regular and you spend money over a period of time. If you're spending $4K over 4 months, and going once or twice a week. That's different than me. I'm an unknown and club rarely. So that factors into it. I've probably spent about $4K in my entire life in clubs, over 22 years.

But I do what to say, that I find these days that the guys here are right. More often than not you will not need to tip for convo anymore. The economy and money in clubs is that bad that you don't have to any more.

There's am opportunity cost to sitting with me though. She's at work and trying to get guys to spend money on her. That's her living. If I was a stripper I wouldn't sit with a customer unless I was on break and liked him or there was some sort of financial incentive. I definitely don't think it should be the same rate as lap dances though. And I mean we're not sitting there at arms length fully dressed. It's not like we're talking about paying someone to have lunch with me at the cafeteria.

Why would she:
1) get dolled up
2) sit in a g-string and stilleto heels for hours
3) pay house fee and tip outs $$$


4) just to sit with a guy for hours on end for free? ..... sort of doesn't make sense.

Always. I shower the hoes in the strip club with thousands of dollars, every moment she spends with me she’s getting paid. The only thing that should be on her mind is how to keep me happy.

being as regular, means the dancer has to consider "how she runs her stripping business." because it *IS* a business. You're $250/wk isn't much by itself, but that's THOUSANDS over a period of time (6 mos or longer) to her and to other dancers. Some is OTC money, it get it. But it's in her best interest to keep you happy because, I could come in, drop $1K once a year, in a single visit. And she would STILL prefer your company (for free) over mine. Because a customer who is a regular, means more $$$ to her stripping business, over time. She knows this.

"I think it would be very rude to talk to a dancer for three hours and then not buy a dance or tip or anything though.
You sort of made is sound that that was the case with your bravado.

Though in the same vein (sp?), I've gone on Sun nights twice. Each time, it was 9-10 PM and I was the last customer in the place (other guys all left around 7:30-08:00 PM after staying an hour). When I was leaving, she was like, NO DON'T GO. STAY. IF YOU LEAVE THERE WON'T BE ANY CUSTOMERS TO TALK YOU. I WON'T EVEN ASK YOU FOR any more MONEY, DRINKS, OR DANCES.

I think she was right. She'd rather talk to someone like me (easy to talk to, effortlessly easy, not boundary pushing, funny), than sit around an empty club with no one to talk to. Happy with the dance money from earlier. So on the right night, I get it.

Had I not had 1) a job to go to the next morning 2) not have to get up at 4 AM each day 3) not had a wife waiting at home.......

Then, yeah, I would have taken up her offer to sit and talk for free Sunday until 2:30 AM closing. Or I would at least have stayed 2-3 more hours until midnight.

Not *just* to sit with me. Depending on her table game, tipping now and then can be a much better deal than the standard dance setup. Some have top-notch table game that's more enjoyable than a dance. I still wouldn't plan a visit around it, but sometimes the pricing structure can make improvising in the front room worth it. Tipping for massage, etc can also be OK, but not generally what I'm looking for.

If I wanted this and was curious, I would just ask her "how much tip would you be looking for to hang out like this for 10 more minutes?" If it sounds high, you could counteroffer and/or mention that you will be interested in dances afterwards. She likely has a target number for the interaction. It could be a typical spend for dances minus whatever the house would take if it were made during a lap dance. E.g., if she often sells 3 dances to a customer at $20 each, she might net $30 after the house cut/tipouts with an expected pre-dance hustle time of 15 minutes. So, she might want $30 or something along those lines for the additional 10 minutes to cover the 25 minutes of interaction.

As others said, it can also depend on how busy the shift is, your breath, general hygiene, club culture, etc. At some clubs, dancers typically sit and hang out for long periods while at others, they hide in the dressing room if they don't close the deal for a dance within the first 2-3 minutes.

I have girls sit with me for hours. I told one once, it's ok if you need to dance for other guys, I know you gotta pay some bills. And she looked at me with a smile and said, yeah, but you pay the rent. So if you spend enough you'll have a best friend all night. Last saturday a girl sat with me from 10pm until 3:30, but she made some good $ off me, and earned every penny.

Dominic explained it, most PLs don’t get it. Don is right IMO, pay the girl for her time, she’s not there for free.

No problem. Some guys are okay talking to a different dancer every 15 or 30 minutes or whatever. That’s cool some guys like talking to one specific dancer over a longer period. And will add tip money to keep her.

I generally used be like you when I was around 20. She could stay I she wanted but I would be ok with her leaving and either sitting by myself or waiting for someone else

And DC9428, if we really want to play the pathetic card, we could bring up your civilian dating life again. And why you have to pay sex workers to be with a woman over time. If you want to go there. I think not. ;)

I hadn't even considered the stripper has to pay the club. If I don't give her something it's like she's paying to hang out with me. Seems only fair to at least make her whole.

Depends on what she is doing while she is "sitting" there. If I'm sitting at a booth or at the bar and somewhat hidden from the rest of the club. I very much like to sit and chat with the girl while she strokes me. I'll definitely pay for that.

DC and vantablack and playing the modern-day TER or escort-Phile stance. — we don’t pay because we have the money. And we don’t have to.

The side with the money ALWAYS holds the leverage in negotiations. Which is fine.

You could argue: hey that’s not fair to the girl. They would still say. We won’t pay. We have the money. And there is NO further argument because we don’t have to.

It just the grim reality of the situation. Pussy is cheap. Sex is cheap. Just the reality of today’s world.

^>The side with the money ALWAYS holds the leverage in negotiations. Which is fine. <

So true yet the real salesmanship come into play when you all allow a chick to flip the script.

Plus after being rejected a lot. The guys today have learned the tables have turned and they now set the rules or can afford be a little more predatory or drive a harder bargain. And the girls have little choice but to play along if they want to get paid.

And truthfully that’s the way it should be. I’ve been guilty of being too concerned with the girl’s POV. After all, Tuscl is really for the customers and we discuss strategies for customers.

And part of that is getting as much as we can for as little money, as long as it is still somewhat fair.

This thread is amusing.

I do know people who frequent clubs, but aren't the type to need extra's etc, and sometimes they just like being there. and they play it right, always buying drinks, or tipping to have them stay at the table etc. Everyone is different at what they want. And yes, I would agree with Dom's original statement that this does open the door to OTC/friendship opportunities. The friend I'm referring to almost always has dancer GF's/buddies, and that comes in handy at parties, as she always invites her friends to come along.......and we all reap the benefits :)

I think I have some extremely different views, but this isn't the website to speak my mind on that :D

Boys are so silly with their thought process

Remember she decided to sit down and spend time with you. Nobody told her to do so. You don't owe her a damn thing. If you like her then buy a dance, but you don't have to give her anything if you guys are just sitting together

I'd rather sit alone for free and I do if they aren't spending fast enough for me. But then when my type of customer or customers come in I make some quick easy lazy cash.

I’ve been overly concerned with making it fair for the girls. When THAT’S the girls job.

Really in 2018 a PL shouldn’t be paying $$$ for clothed conversation. @Warrior15, sadly no action, no nudity, just clothed convo like at a library. This isn’t 1995-1999 anymore. Lol.

What about when a stupid ego tripping New Yorker has the nerve to come into the club and sit down next to me when there is plenty of seating left? And he doesn't even buy a dance the fuck. He only got like 2 dances from a girl after she spent like 1 or 2 hours sitting on his lap. I'd rather shoot my brains out.

I wish I could make $50/hr just sitting there.

Pathetic perhaps. Unneeded, definitely! It would be like juice paying for Arby’s sauce!! Don’t pay for what you can get for free!

I've been paid hundreds just to hang out outside the club. Granted it's an all day thing. But I can see the point of view a lot of girls will do it for free or for drinks.

That reminds me of the opposite predicament when the dancer you DON'T want to have any company with is the one who sits down next to you and won't leave........ Brings me back to my younger inexperienced days of "what do I do?" hahahah Now its just "Nope waiting on "so and so"" and she still doesn't take a hint..."I have to go have a smoke".........

Thanks shailynn!!

Blahblahblah23, glad we could amuse you, lol!

Remember these girls work one of the most effort free jobs on the planet. Don't feel bad about not giving them a tip for sitting there and talking to you

Ok I can't stand when girls who aren't wanted camp out by some guy^ I will give you that

Just for me if I am sitting alone it's because I don't wanna deal with the stupidity that moment so if someone has the nerve to approach me or wave me over he better spend immediately.

There is a song for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3taEuL4E… (hint: it's Ke$ha)

This isn't a night club and I value my time and time is money. Hell I'm that douchebag bitch that has even said it to customers and then they open their wallets or visit ATM. I get away with murder. I won't lie I'm a low effort dancer than most. So maybe I don't chase every last penny in desperation but I still do alright.

I went on civvie date last night at a bar with a model quality 47 year old and it sucked big time. Bitter unpleasant conversation. If sliding her a twenty under the bar every five minutes would have sweetened her up, I’dve done it. At the SC just keep her happy and she’ll keep you happy, so much easier.

In pretty nice if someone isn't a dbag to me but if they annoy me lol

Blah,

I actually would like to read your POV or thought process sometime. Maybe not in this thread or even right now. But at some point ...... and NO I’m not paying you! Ha! maybe over pm. I agree boys are silly. ;)

I've had that same experience Mnaz. I feel your pain...... I couldn't imagine the douchebaggery you have to deal with on a regular basis blah...... I don't hold it against you one bit for being the way you are! Even as a customer I see the way some guys are with the ladies.and it can be mind boggling. I understand we are all trying to get what we want and its the eternal struggle (we want as much as we can get with as little money possible, and you want to get as much money with as little work as possible), but I try to at least be approachable and engaging.... If I detect that you are not interested I'm not gonna be an ass about it. I'll just move onto the next.......

Okay Dominic...

1. I thought you were happily married and had happy interactions with previous girlfriends before that?

You have made it sound like it was *always* favorable for you. Why would you talk about turning the tables?

2. Caring about having an “edge” is mostly important for the posters here who want an advantage of getting favorable rates (sexual favors+time spent) with a dancer versus what an escort would charge. Are you trying to do the same?

3. For dedicated PLs, I understand why they want to stretch their dollars further. But you have stated before that you go to the SC once a year and spend ~$150. Did you have intentions on going to the club more often in the future?

5. If you were trying to get more “bang” for your buck, you have already said a lot of dancers in your area offer OTC pretty inexpensively already.

Therefore, I don’t understand why any edge is necessary then. Just like one wouldn’t need much “game” for Detroit or TJ either.

6. How does one who only goes to strip clubs once a year have CFs?

*throws the popcorn bag in the microwave*

Yeah like I said I'm nice until someone annoys me. Also I sometimes make money for scolding/berating someone for being etc etc etc *insert colorful language* then they feel ashamed and give me money when they weren't planning to before LOL

I can do no wrong :)

That's reasonable

Ooh yeah, wasn’t it like 3/$100 dances or something?

I popped on Facebook, and there’s a club in South Dakota advertising for dancers to come over because it’s hunting season. And that couch dances are $50 and bed $100.

I know there’s not a lot of competition, but I wonder how they get away with those prices. :o

I have paid girls at our local clubs just to sit with me, even the full dance rate.

But there is something much bigger at stake here. Lap dancing started with lap sitting, all front room. Dances were just a gimmick invented to take money off of chumps.

By keeping the girl in the front room with you, you have the chance to lead it yourself, to let her open up to you. And the pinnacle of this is the Front Room Makeout Session.

Right here, our very own Countryman brings back home to Louisville what he learned in TJ, and makes the move from Pathetic Looser to Womanizer:
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php5?id…

SJG

Clapton, Old Love (electric and really good)
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Strip clubs are expensive. So select the girl you want to be waking up in the mornings with. Follow Countryman's Louisville example.

SJG

DC9428, people say that in your state, Richmond to DC is all very expensive, very high per capital income. So it might be other parts of the state which could be a bit more reasonable. And that northern part is where they look to have some good AMPs.

SJG

Expecting her to sit with you for free is ridiculous plus management will get on her case for not working

Way back up near the top jackslash said something about buying drinks if he wants the girl to stay around. I'm pretty much the same on that. If the dancer is talking with me at all, it's because I'm interested in a dance. If she's there long enough to have not been told no, it's either because I'm probably getting dances (therefore she's getting paid for her time) or she's not taking the hint to leave. I had a table full of dancers not taking that hint this week, so it's not a foolproof process.

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Lap dancing started with lap sitting, so what the girls got was front room cash. Maybe sometimes they really do want a drink, but always always always they like cash.

You sit with her in the front room, and feed her cash, and then you get to lead the interaction. No telling how far it might go. Just ask Countryman.

SJG

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'Best', but how about prices?

Black club in Hopewell, another in the South East, and what looks to be a true shithole, 10 miles outside of Roanoke.

SJG

@TrapBaby304

There isn't a rule requiring anyone to pay a girl sitting with us. Remember she made the decision to sit down with the customer HOPING to get a tip. If I'm the customer I get to decide whether I should do so or not. And if management is on her ass about it then that's her problem not mine. She can just get up and try to get tips from someone else.

I've been to tons of clubs and I've never paid anyone for anything other than dances. If I ever step foot in a club again I will still continue what I've always done. Not paying a single damn thing but dances

I don't pay anyone to sit with me .... technically. But it's all a matter of perspective. My CF knows that after we've sat for a while (with me buying drinks and lunch), there will be a VIP, and then we'll sit and drink more, and then another VIP, lather, rinse, repeat. She doesn't think she's sitting for free, she thinks she's sitting to get the VIP. Sometimes, when it's a new girl and she's been hanging out with me for a bit, if I sense she's getting nervous, I'll let her know, "hey, another drink and we'll do a VIP" ... again, from her perspective, she's not really sitting for free, she's sitting to get the VIP at the end

^^^^ Well usually the girl is trying to sell dances. So she expects either dances or cash.

Giving her cash instead of dances is how you get to lead the interaction. And has Countryman has demonstrated, that can lead to a front room makeout session and waking up with the girl in the morning.

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SJG

I don’t pay attention to much of the noise I hear on here with guys falling all over themselves to be fair or not, I’ve been a businessman all of my life, there is one true thing, you girls need to realize, your time is the only thing you are selling, and for my money it needs to be about me, and you need to realize this component it’s only worth what someone is willing to pay, the smartest girls know this, the ones that bank the best are those girls that are able to make the right guy feel like she’s worth it. More often than not, I will tip well and spend freely, but it won’t be with an entitled biatch, it will be with a sweetheart that values my time as much as her own.

^^^^ So I take that as a YES?

Front room money sometimes as opposed to paying for dances.

SJG

Yes, but the same approach won't work on every guy.

I’ve been tempted to pay more than a few to leave! Beyond a little chit chat, there are not many dancers that have me reflecting about the quality of the conversation.

Paying the girl to sit with you, to show generosity and respect, can lead to a front room makeout session and waking up with her in the morning.

Buying dances is for chumps.

Taking up her time and not giving her money, is for assholes.

Countryman
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SJG

@SJG not really I need to decide the girl is the one I want then she needs to prove her worth to me, more often than not I might hang out for an hour or more, but then I’ll get some dances, if I enjoyed her company, she might get a tip on top of her dances I’ve tipped as much as $200.00 after buying $150.00 worth of dances, it depends on a lot of things, but mainly how I feel about her presence, and when I come in to see her if she Is busy, she’ll get unbusy quickly, and hang out with me and as long as I’m there she’ll prolly not be available.

^ I’ve spent more plenty of times and the girls know me so that’s the point.

At its best, I would say that you are not paying her to sit with you, you are just giving her money.

And then you can use these transfers to communicate things to her, like how you like how she has dressed and her high heels, and that you want her to let you 'take care of her, with money', getting her used to this broader more open kind of offer.

Be careful though, it might go way beyond a front room makeout session and waking up with her in the morning.

SJG

It has at times

Totally depends on the girl, the club and the vibe. Woodstock can attest to the fact that I’m happy to hang out for a long time.. on a super dead Monday.. for $5 tips and some drinks. But that’s at a dive club on a slow night and if the customer is cool and I barely did my makeup. Catch me at a busy fancy club on a Friday night more done up and I would expect a lot more to stick around that long.

^^or is the customer is unpleasant

I would agree with April9424, it depends on the club. The club I go to only has $20 dances. I can't expect a CF to hang with me for 1-2 hours for $40-60 and I want to get priority from that dancer. So I just pay more or less depending on how long I am with her.

No, but I don’t waste her time either. I let her know pretty quickly if I’m going to do dances or not.

No to sit with me. I have given them a dollar or two to leave but I don't like doing that either.
I have bought a dancer a beer or drink if I wanted her to sit with me but I do not consider that to be paying her. That's an entertainment expense.

If a dancer flashed me her tits, I thought that was worth a dollar. One dancer kept doing this for a while for several visits.

if I have no intention of getting a dance with her i let her know within a couple minutes. if she chooses to continue to sit with me that’s on her dime.
. if she is a girl that I do intend on getting a dance with i let her talk on for a while... maybe even buy her a drink...

The girls are there to make money. So are the bartenders and the waitresses. When I go...and I go alot...I go with intention to tip EVERYBODY good. Yes, I have tipped dancers just to sit with me. If they hold good, interesting conversation with a smile, then I will tip $100/hr. I always go in with a plan and I budget based on my plan.

^ I think this was talked about in another recent discussion about non-dancer females working at a strip club. I honestly could care less about how little a bartender or waitress might make. I don't go there for them. The only time it might start to concern me is if they always do bad likely meaning that there is no money coming to the club, therefore the dancers are in trouble and the club is in trouble.

I don't tip for sitting/conversation on general principle. Now if this sitting includes a lot of physical flirting and touching/groping, then yes a "modest" is warranted, but even then i just take her to the back and i "might" throw in a tip on a dance or stack a few dances, but usually tips are for the actual dances and not any of the time/effort she spent beforehand.

I've had girls sit with me awkwardly for about half an hour or more without asking for a dance before they're finally called on stage or something, or she finally leaves for whatever reason or gives some excuse. Or i actually might leave her and tip someone else on stage. I don't feel sorry for these girls. Most girls fortunately aren't that dense. If i genuinely want to dance with a girl, she'll know within 5-10 minutes or less even. I'm not the type to try to hold a girl at my table if she starts to leave after she was pleasantly bantering or flirting. Some girls just never get around to asking about the dance. And if i'm not especially interested in her, i'm certainly not going to ask her.

Interestingly, i have yet to have a dancer ask me for a tip after just sitting with me or talking with me. I've had several girls, often seemingly in collusion with a waitress, ask for a drink though, which is a different story...

Anyway, paying a girl to sit with you is IMO worse than paying for an air dance. At least the girl gets naked during the air dance. I avoid low mileage/contact/nudity clubs just so i don't have to "waste" money on "nothing". And i do consider just talking or sitting with a girl pretty much nothing. I understand some PLs might go for therapeutic reasons, may need someone to talk to, or just need the ego boost/stroke of a pretty thing's attention. None of that applies to me. These dancers are not GFs, or even friends, like you would hang out with them OTC in a platonic way or really help each other in times of need. I'm also not saying that spending time with a dancer on the floor (low or no mileage) can't be enjoyable. But it's not worth paying for IMO. Sitting, talking and "hanging out" is stuff i do for free with friends and more authentically as well. I don't need the SC or even a woman for that.

I think Dominic's 1 - 4 list posted earlier pretty-much gets to the heart of the matter- the PL/dancer interaction is a 2-way street and IMO too many custies just think solely about their pleasure and solely what's best for them - a dancer is there to please/entertain the customer, not the other way around, but a custy should be fair and to a certain extent see/be-aware of her predicament and act fairly - IMO good business is win/win when both-sides get enough of what they need and each side is self-aware enough to see things from the other person's position, vs trying to squeeze the other person

For the most-part I've never had an overwhelming desire to talk to dancers, or need their attention, for long stretches of time - probably bc I've always been into variety.

I only recall paying a dancer for her time once, sorta - it was probably about a dozen-years ago, at Baby Dolls Dallas - I was sitting with a very pretty and very personable AA and reallly enjoying her company and the way she carried herself - I've always been one to be cognizant about not wasting anyone's time (dancer or not) - this personable AA had been sitting with me for a while post-dances, halfway thru our convo I just blurted out "don't worry I'll pay you for your time" since I was taking up her time and not planning to get more dances - I think I tipped her somewhere b/w $40 &
$60 (can't remember exactly but I doubt it was more than that knowing me, dances were $20) - I told her I was enjoying her company and she seemed genuinely flattered that I'd tip her just bc I genuinely enjoyed her company and she even told the waitress something along the lines of "wow that's so nice that he wants to tip me just bc he enjoys my company", and she said it in a way that she was trying to be complimentary of my actions but I felt like a smock her telling someone else although she seemed to do it with good intentions - anyway that is the only time I sorta paid a dancer just for her time/company, sorta bc I would've been-fine/understood if she had told she needed to go work the room, i.e. I wasn't necessarily tipping her to stay/not-leave, just that I felt I should compensate her for her good-company.

Being into variety I'm normally not gonna spend a big-amount on any one dancer thus why I don't like taking up too much of her time w/o spending on her usually via dances - if I was a one-dancer type PL where I planned on spending most of my time & $$$ on just her then I'd likely want/expect more time from her.

My last regular would sit with me the entire time I was in the club. Our deal was I gave her $100 plus drinks (and she drank like a fish!).

Sometimes we would do VIP and fuck, other times we would just sit and drink and I might finger her some at the table. She was a lot of fun to hang with but again that is a regular that I had known for a good while.

Depends. Is she sitting on your lap vs sitting on the chair next to you? Different game. I've payed for the former but never for the latter.

Also depends on how busy the club is and how motivated she is to work it. Everything's negotiable.

Juice claims dancers pay him to sit with them (something about giving them status in the club)

How bout paying them to sit on your dick - let's analyze *that* angle

Lap sitting instead of lap dancing

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My responses are in-line. :)

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Okay Dominic...

>1. I thought you were happily married and had happy interactions with previous girlfriends before that?

1. Yes, your recollection is right. I think my approach has worked for me.

>You have made it sound like it was *always* favorable for you. Why would you talk about turning the tables?

2. It was me just role playing and trolling the guys here to ridicule their views. The view over semantics on spending money on a dancer when she is entertaining to me. I think net-net, the club interactions to me have *always* been favorable in my direction. All of my dancer experiences have been positive.

>2. Caring about having an “edge” is mostly important for the posters here who want an advantage of getting favorable rates (sexual favors+time spent) with a dancer versus what an escort would charge. >Are you trying to do the same?

3. No, I do not care about having an edge. I find I don’t need one.

>3. For dedicated PLs, I understand why they want to stretch their dollars further. But you have stated before that you go to the SC once a year and spend ~$150.
>Did you have intentions on going to the club more often in the future?

4. Yes, I do have intentions of going more often. Very much so!

>5. If you were trying to get more “bang” for your buck, you have already said a lot of dancers in your area offer OTC pretty inexpensively already.

5. Correct.

>Therefore, I don’t understand why any edge is necessary then. Just like one wouldn’t need much “game” for Detroit or TJ either.

5. Correct. [ditto]

>6. How does one who only goes to strip clubs once a year have CFs?

6. Nicespice, you haven’t been able to figure that one out, eh? ;)