OT: Anglo-American Philosophy from Hobbes forward

san_jose_guy
money was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
Ludwig Wittgenstein
1889 - 1951
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Wit…

Tractatus and Philosophical Investigations are his major publications.

Private Language argument, saying that such cannot exist.

BBC radio disucssion
https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/play/p005494…

John Searle, video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrmPq8pz…

Curlie
https://curlie.org/Society/Philosophy/Ph…

https://www.iep.utm.edu/wittgens/


SJG

Classify Your Troll
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James Carse was the Director of Religious Studies at New York University for thirty years.

James P. Carse
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._C…

http://jamescarse.com/wp/

The religious case against belief / James P. Carse. (2008)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JXS…

Patriarchy, dividing women into categories, eradicating witchcraft, restricting access to prostitution to men of high status
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/038549…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handma…
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Clapton, Old Love, electric and really good!
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Trump Faces Probe into Tax Fraud After NYT Exposes How He Helped Parents Scam Millions from Gov’t
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Elliot Rodger: Infamy & Obscurity (2014 Isla Vista massacre) by Jordan Owen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E35YR3DG…

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Mate27
6 years ago
^^^ STFU Fag!
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6 years ago
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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Tractatus logico-philosophicus / by Ludwig Wittgenstein with an introduction by Bertrand Russell, F.R.S. (1922 ?)

Major works : selected philosophical writings / Ludwig Wittgenstein (2009)

Starting with Wittgenstein / Chon Tejedor (2011)

Wittgenstein : key concepts / edited by Kelly Dean Jolley. (2010)

Wittgenstein's Philosophical investigations : a critical guide / edited by Arif Ahmed. (2010)

The evolution of the private language argument / Keld Stehr Nielsen (2008)

Wittgenstein's private language : grammar, nonsense and imagination in Philosophical investigations, [sections] 243-315 / Stephen Mulhall (2007)

SJG
shailynn
6 years ago
STICK A SHOVEL UP YOUR ASS SAN JOSE GAY!!!!!
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
John Dewey and Richard Rorty seem to be the people to read on the US side, the pragmatists.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Also Alfred North Whitehead, and maybe Bertrand Russel too. There is also Quine, and many go with Ryle.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
William James
The Varieties of Religious Experience: A Study in Human Nature
originally 1901. Just as relevant today as it was when first published. Anticipated the moral reform type groups, like Frank Buchman, and then the New Age New Thought groups.

The Sick Soul

And the Healthymindedness groups.

https://www.amazon.com/Varieties-Religio…

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Richard Rorty, this is really good:

https://www.amazon.com/Contingency-Irony…

He's got other good books too.

SJG
PaulDrake
6 years ago
No one else is posting here SJG... So why are you?
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So besides Wittgenstein, Russel, and Whitehead in the UK, we have in the US William James, John Dewey, and Richard Rorty.

And now we know about the 19th Century economist Henry George.

In the UK we have also had:

Gilbert Ryle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Ry…

Willard Van Orman Quine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard_Va…

Never thought much of Hobbes, Berkeley, and Hume.

But later in UK,

John Stuart Mill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stuar…

but I think even more interesting and before him, Jeremy Bentham
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Ben…

SJG

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Joe Bonamassa - "Sloe Gin" - Muddy Wolf at Red Rocks
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In the pool halls, the hustlers and the losers
I used to watch 'em through the glass
Well I'd stand outside at closing time
Just to watch her walk on past

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So this small Richard Rorty book is very good and very easy to understand, a kind of anti-philosphy, following on what he wrote in his much larger and more challenging "Philosophy and the Mirror of Nature":

https://www.amazon.com/Contingency-Irony…

SJG

Two books written about the same time which seem to span the chasm between religious and occult kabbalah
Kabbalah : three thousand years of mystic tradition / Kenneth Hanson (1998)
Heavenly powers : unraveling the secret history of the Kabbalah / Neil Asher Silberman (1998)

Why I’m Proud To Be A Middle-Aged Stripper
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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So Anglo-American also includes another two I find value in, Emerson and Thoreau.

SJG

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Theologian, Reinhold Niebuhr, seen as a counter to John Dewey
Reinhold Niebuhr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhold_N…

Heavily into Social Justice and an influence behind John Shelby Spong

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Back to the Continental Tradition for a moment:

I failed to mention that there is a reference in that book about School Safety and with the Elliot Rodger chapter, to Alain Badiou. seen by some as the successor to Gilles Deleuze. Very much on the far Left, and having a father who was active in WWII Resistance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alain_Badi…

lots of books:

Deleuze : the clamor of being / Alain Badiou ; translated by Louise Burchill (2000)

In praise of mathematics / Alain Badiou with Gilles Haeri ; translated by Susan Spitzer. (2016)

SJG

Joe Bonamassa - "Sloe Gin" - Muddy Wolf at Red Rocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvvgZMGp…

Midnight Blues
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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.…

"a trend of modern bourgeois philosophy, chiefly Anglo-American, which reduces philosophy to the analysis of linguistic and conceptual (usually considered, in the final analysis, the same way as the linguistic) modes of cognition. Here the philosophic-gnoseological analysis of the modes of cognition which is characteristic of classical philosophy and connected with the fundamental problems of the relation of subject and object is replaced, as a rule, by the investigation of specific scientific problems—logical, logicolinguistic, semiotic, and so on."

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Lil_Baller100
6 years ago
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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So reading some material which is quite Heideggerian. Hubert Dreyfus, UC Berkeley Emeritus, is a Heidegger expert.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002YK…

But also, Richard Rorty seems to have become a Heidegger expert

https://www.amazon.com/Essays-Heidegger-…

SJG

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Iam4u2screw
6 years ago
SJG, following the link you have on your profile to your google site, I have a couple of questions.

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1) is the guy hugging the bidet your mug?
2) You need to tell Mary to update the page since she seems to be the only one updating it and some of the links do not work.
3) Is Mary your mom or are you actually Mary? If she is your mom, what does she think about all the pics of strippers on the page?
4) Wonder what all those kids spelling out SJG would think if they knew they were on a website detailing strippers and sex?

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So we have UC Berkeley's own Hubert Dreyfus, a Heidegger expert. He was the one who decided that Foucault was the successor to Heidegger, and Dreyfus arranged it so that Foucault would be spending one term per year in Berkeley.

The Foucault died. Well, a few years ago Dreyfus also died.

His book is legendary
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/026254…

And it is also legendary how the students would come out of his class staggering, loaded up with glossaries of Heidegger terms, and notes about translation from German.

He has another book I had not know of, actually two of them:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/141659…

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/140519…

I've listened to Dreyfus give day long talks. First time I heard him I decided that I wanted to know such things as well as he does.

Dreyfus is a critic of Jean Paul Sartre, says he misunderstood Heidegger's Being In Time.

I do not really go along with this, but it is very interesting.

SJG

Jeff Healey, w/ Toucu, and name confirmed as Healey introduces her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_ufNFTA…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So the Arts and Crafts Movement, US and UK, something I want to know more about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arts_and_C…

John Ruskin, William Morris

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ruski…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Mo…

So of course at this point what I really want is are some books.

The arts and crafts movement / Rosalind P. Blakesley. (2006 caution)

SJG

Waring of Rising Nationalism
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-11/w…

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2018/0…!

Adam Hochschild
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/11/12/…

Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, underneath the Arch of Triumph, should be visible from this East side angled view
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Arc+de…

http://www.paris-pictures.com/tomb-of-un…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_de_Tri…

https://architecturebehindmovies.files.w…

Theatre Chochotte - Paris
http://a403.idata.over-blog.com/3/52/36/…

Hookers in Paris
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Baker Gurwitz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cte9Bk_f…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
John Dewey (October 20, 1859 – June 1, 1952)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dewey

Freedom and Culture 1939
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_an…

How we think / by John Dewey

Democracy and education [electronic resource] : an introduction to the philosophy of education / John Dewey

SJG

Saturday I reported on a man who had vanished from a 49er's stadium game the previous Monday. Saturday they found a body in the water near the old unused Alviso Marina and some old concrete boat ramps. The stuff is unused because silt comes in from the bay and fills it up.

I have years ago explored all around there. It is interesting, but even in the day time potentially dangerous. I once got stuck hip deep in mud and a shoe came off. Getting my foot back into the shoe I was able to recover it. But I was taking more risks in doing so.

This man was in the military, maybe Special Forces. So likely he handles himself quite well in the outdoors, even at night.

Not sure if any conclusions have been reached, but to me it sounds more and more like a suicide. Left his cell phone, battery run down to zero, in his car at the stadium. Also left his girl friend and her two kids there. But talking on the phone and using video up until the point he vanished.

https://590kqnt.iheart.com/featured/morn…

http://www.khq.com/story/39481212/santa-…

Here SJPD say that the body was found floating face down about 1 mile out from the Marina and the Ramps.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/body-discovery…

https://heavy.com/news/2018/11/ian-power…

I believe that police probably have more tidbits of information which they are not going to disclose until they are ready to close the case.

In a homicide it is usually those closest to the deceased who did it, and they are exposed by the contradictions in their stories. To me, this is sounding more and more like a suicide.

Here it sound like he was found at the boat launch, though those concrete ramps are unusable do to silt.
https://thespun.com/news/body-found-amid…

https://www.oxygen.com/crime-time/body-f…

Still waiting to hear that they have confirmed the identity, and then of course for any conclusions.

http://www.ksro.com/2018/11/19/body-disc…

Jeff Healey Band, full concert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_ufNFTA…


Theatre Chochotte, Paris
http://bird-production.com/photographers…

http://a403.idata.over-blog.com/3/52/36/…

Here, outside view, use zoom outs and changing back to maps to see exactly where this is:

https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=…

Inside scene
https://www.google.com/maps/uv?hl=en&pb=…

34 Rue Saint-André des Arts, 75006 Paris, France

Here:
https://www.google.com/maps/@48.8533376,…

Very close to the Seine

and to the Luxembourg Gardens park.

http://cdn.kabook.fr/bk21125/pic_85465_1…

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/78/d0/3d/78d03…

http://info.xineurope.com/uploadfile/201…

Here, their own page:
https://www.theatre-chochotte.com/englis…

https://www.theatre-chochotte.com/englis…

https://www.theatre-chochotte.com/englis…

https://www.theatre-chochotte.com/englis…

Emmanuel Marcon
‘Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism. Nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism’
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world…

The US and Russian leaders listened in silence as Mr Macron took a swipe at the rising tide of populism in the US and Europe, warning: “The old demons are rising again, ready to complete their task of chaos and of death.”

“In saying, ‘Our interests first, whatever happens to the others’, you erase the most precious thing a nation can have, that which makes it live, that which causes it to be great and that which is most important: its moral values.”

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-11/w…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-12/e…

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/18/opini…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Contemporary critical theory / [edited by] Dan Latimer. (1989) deals with Jaques Lacan and lots of other people.

San Francisco
http://lacan.org/

Paris and Roubaix, France
https://www.freud-lacan.com

http://www.lacan.com/lacan1.htm

http://www.lacan.com/essays/

"It would be fair to say that there are few twentieth century thinkers who have had such a far-reaching influence on subsequent intellectual life in the humanities as Jacques Lacan. Lacan's "return to the meaning of Freud" profoundly changed the institutional face of the psychoanalytic movement internationally. His seminars in the 1950s were one of the formative environments of the currency of philosophical ideas that dominated French letters in the 1960s and'70s, and which has come to be known in the Anglophone world as "post-structuralism."

https://www.iep.utm.edu/lacweb/
has good references

http://www.lacanonline.com/index/categor…


SJG

Mexico Lindo Bar, awesome front page pics:
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New American Nazis: Inside the White Supremacist Movement That Fueled Pittsburgh Synagogue Shooting
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/11/20/…

Is Photobucket down for other people? It is down right now for me.

So the body has been identified, it is the 32yo Ian Powers who vanished at the 11/12 Monday night football game.

They are saying that it was an accidental drowning, and now the case is closed.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Bo…

https://www.abc15.com/news/national/body…

https://www.foxnews.com/us/body-found-in…

Jaguar F-Type, plans?
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/jagua…

Helen Pepsi DeMacque
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dce8Dhr…

Who else here besides me is generally into black girls?

Of course we already know from their posts about Papi and LarryFisherman.

Alan Parsons, live w/ orchestra
Alan Parsons - Sirius / Eye In The Sky (Live)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdyto5rf…

EMERSON, LAKE & PALMER - FROM THE BEGINNING (Original Version + Alternate Version)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWWT_EUv…

Fanfare For The Common Man, Aaron Copeland, Leonard Bernstein introducing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgj7_Dmg…

Appalachian Spring, live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJYVH_kZ…

Fanfare for the Common Man from St. John the Divine, NYC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pemt2XGJ…

William Randolph plays "Fanfare for the Common Man" on the world's largest pipe organ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUmdKax2…

Fanfare For the Common Man, Aaron Copland, Organ and Timpani
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1BPXeAL…

Century of the Common Man, Vice President Henry Wallace, May 8th 1942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBWula5G…

full text:
https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeche…

The Liberal Catholic Church, CA Parishes in Ojai and Richmond. Tied to Theosophical Society, and Henry Wallace was a part of this.
http://www.thelccusa.org/

Richmond CA
http://www.straphaelslcc.org/

Theatre Chochotte
https://www.theatre-chochotte.com/englis…

Wilhelm Reich in Hell / by Robert Anton Wilson ; foreword by Christopher S. Hyatt & Donald Holmes, M.D (1987)
Reich is interesting, a radical in many ways. But this also might say some about Israel Regardie, seeming to me a bit mysterious.

Jeff Healey Band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_ufNFTA…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Isn't it true that the Born Again Christian Movement really is just a cover for a Neo-Nazi Movement?

I say yes!

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
An Introduction to Heidegger: Being and Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDAyhsZ-…

SJG

Bill Moyers, Forrest Church Interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJbFGevv…

Stravinsky: The Firebird / Gergiev · Vienna Philarmonic · Salzburg Festival 2000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZkIAVGl…

So you folks like these no proscenium concert halls?

Disney Music Center
https://meyersound.com/wp-content/upload…

San Jose Center for the Performing Arts, not designed that way.
https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3127/27685…

TJ Street
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https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/9620…

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5449/96322…

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2849/96290…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Heidegger is not really Anglo-American Philosophy, but because the American Pragmatist Richard Rorty takes such an interest, we consider it.

Hubert Dreyfus, 10 hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UIRFycQ…

more of Dreyfus on Heidegger
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo8LJvB…

SJG

Serious Earthquakes In Alaska
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/large-earthqua…

If we have justice, then no one will ever be without what they need.

If we do not have justice, then money will never be a reliable substitute.

Medicare For All
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/11/30/…

Bernie Sanders, Economic Justice
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/11/30/…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Mark Poster, of the Critical Theory Project at UC Irvine.

https://www.amazon.com/Mark-Poster/e/B00…

SJG

Zazu
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Graham Bond ✪ Holy Magick [full album]
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Farm - Farm 1971 (FULL ALBUM) [Psychedelic Blues-Rock]
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How False Testimony and a Massive U.S. Propaganda Machine Bolstered George H.W. Bush’s War on Iraq
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/12/5/h…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So how about this Ananda group here locally, which I have never shown much interest in?

https://www.ananda.org/

As I know this Palo Alto site is their main place, and they have also been able to buy a Catholic Church property.
http://www.anandapaloalto.org/

"
Ananda is a global spiritual movement, based on the teachings of Paramhansa Yogananda, who showed how everyone can realize God in their daily lives as a tangible, loving reality.

You can feel harmony, and God’s active presence in your life through ancient and effective techniques, including meditation, Kriya Yoga, spiritually-oriented Hatha Yoga, community, and divine friendship. Kriya Yoga is a highly effective meditation technique that can be integrated into any meditation and prayer practice.

Ananda was founded in 1969 by Yogananda’s direct disciple, Swami Kriyananda, who passed away in 2013. Swami Kriyananda’s spiritual successor is Nayaswami Jyotish who, along with his wife Nayaswami Devi, serve as Ananda’s Spiritual Directors. You can attend live classes with Nayaswamis Jyotish and Devi online or in person.
"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramahans…
(1893 - 1952)

Autobiography of a Yogi (1946)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobiogra…

founded in 1920, says HQ is in Los Angeles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Reali…

documentary about him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awake:_The…

And then there is locally a spin off, Center for Spiritual Enlightenment. Strong question marks about this.
https://www.csecenter.org/

SJG

WANT ADS by Honey Cone (1970)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c58XCtIj…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Ananda has been around since 1920. The limited contact I have had did not impress me. But they have run awesome bookstores.

Partly based on a dream, I now would like to know some about it. Best is if I can find a critical book written by outsiders.

interesting:
Cooperative communities; how to start them, and why, by Swami Kriyananda. (1972, written by their people)

The new path : my life with Paramhansa Yogananda / by Swami Kriyananda (J. Donald Walters). (again written by their people)

A Fight for religious freedom : a lawyer's personal account of copyrights, karma and dharmic litigation / Jon R. Parsons. (2012, this could be interesting)

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Ananda Palo Alto, the picture is of the Catholic Church they bought.

http://www.anandapaloalto.org/joy/about.…

http://www.anandapaloalto.org/joy/congre…

What We Believe
http://www.anandapaloalto.org/joy/WhatWe…

A New Renunciate Order?

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
This guy was the second leader, passed away some years back.

The essence of self-realization : the wisdom of Paramhansa Yogananda / recorded, compiled and edited by Swami Kriyananda (2009)

The essence of the Bhagavad Gita / explained by Paramhansa Yogananda as remembered by his disciple Swami Kriyananda (J. Donald Walters) (2006)

Religion in the New Age : and other essays for the spiritual seeker / Swami Kriyananda (J. Donald Walters). (2009)

SJG
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6 years ago
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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
this building shown is the Catholic Church which they bought in Palo Alto

Ananda Church of Self-Realization Documentary Film
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9McJUmT7…

SJG

Egg Cream - Lou Reed
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The Velvet Underground -- Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
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X - The Have Nots
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X Some Other Time
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X - Los Angeles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUiZHt6s…

Daily Digit: Believe it or not, Chicago is not the murder capital of the U.S.
https://news.yahoo.com/daily-digit-belie…

"But when adjusting for its large population, Chicago has fewer deaths per capita than many other cities. St. Louis has had the nation’s highest murder rate for the past four years, followed by Baltimore, Detroit, New Orleans and Baton Rouge."

Farm, Psychedelic Blues-Rock 1971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plfEvepn…

Steppenwolf - The Pusher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XqyGoE2…

Magic Carpet Ride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLuUGblO…

Fairies Wear Boots - Black Sabbath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab-ZNU76…

Paranoid - Full Album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWvKvOVi…

TJ Street
https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7318/961…
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/9620…
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5449/96322…

Naked Woman On The Altar - Church of Satan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2JIyncS…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1zsIk6W…

https://www.churchofsatan.com/

https://aleisternacht.files.wordpress.co…

What these guys do is interesting, but what my organization will do will be vastly superior!
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
I want to learn what the Ananda people have, but the group in the above video definitly rubs me the wrong wrong way. So to for the spin of group, Center for Spiritual Enlightenment, which operated along the Alameda in San Jose.

https://www.csecenter.org/

Self improvement happy think bullshit. Almost as bad as stuff like Scientology.

Still will be reading about it and letting videos play.

But it is the opposite of what I want.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
more, need to know about this to protect myself from it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3QMlLg0…

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
^^^^^^ This stuff is almost as bad as Christian Science.

Need to understand it, because it is in the local tap water. Need to defend against it.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Screw Ananda, not worth my time to read any of their stuff at this time. It's just an Eastern flavored version of New Thought, i.e. a denial system.

I remember decades ago when I came to this conclusion about it. This has quickly reminded me of that.


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So François Mitterrand was part of Resistance, but rather late. At the end of his Presidency, he lamented that he "might have collaborated".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7…

He was talking about his involvement in something known as La Cagoule

So what was this?

Officially called, "Secret Committee of Revolutionary Action"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Cagoule

So it was a fascist leaning anti-communist t*rr*r*st group formed in 1937 with the aim of over throwing the Popular front of socialist Leon Blume, elected in 1936.

La Cagoule was founded by Eugène Deloncle. Among others, the founder of the cosmetics company L'Oréal, Eugène Schueller, bankrolled the clandestine movement.

The group performed assassinations, bombings, sabotage of armaments, and other violent activities, some intended to cast suspicion on communists and add to political instability. Planning a November 1937 overthrow of the government, La Cagoule was infiltrated by the police, and the national government arrested and imprisoned about 70 men. At the outbreak of World War II, the government released the men to fight in the French Army. Some supported other right-wing organizations and participated in the Vichy government; others joined the Free French of Charles de Gaulle. It was not until 1948 that the government tried surviving members for the charges of 1937.

In Nice, new members were initiated in a formal ritual. In the presence of the Grand Master, dressed in red and accompanied by his assesseurs dressed in black, with their faces covered, new members stood before a table draped with a French flag. A sword and torches were placed on it. Each man raised his right arm and swore the oath, Ad majorem Galliæ gloriam ("For the greater glory of France").[5] This oath echoed the Jesuit motto, Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam (For the greater glory of God). Disloyalty was punished by death. For instance, the arms suppliers Léon Jean-Baptiste and Maurice Juif were murdered by Cagoulards in October 1936 and February 1937, respectively, for attempting to enrich themselves by lying about the price they had paid for the arms.

The paramilitary organization was active in the provinces. In Paris it organized militias and demonstrations, and it amassed arms. They attempted to assassinate Léon Blum, the prime minister. They also trained men in terrorism, built underground prisons, and "ran guns in Belgium, Switzerland and Italy."

Reactions to the plot and the revelations by the French government about la Cagoule varied among the international media. In the United States, the editors of the New York Times were initially suspicious of the accounts.[citation needed] The journalists of Time magazine likened La Cagoule to the American Ku Klux Klan, a right-wing group that had a widespread revival from 1915, reaching its peak of influence in 1925, with members elected to political office in midwestern cities and states as well as the South.

Socialite masquerade of the Cagoule conspiracy after the revelations by the French government in 1937.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c…

so
"
When Mitterrand's involvement in these conservative nationalist movements was revealed in the 1990s, he attributed his actions to the milieu of his youth. Mitterrand furthermore had some personal and family relations with members of the Cagoule, a far-right terrorist group in the 1930s.
"

Not good. Some do hold this against him today.

SJG

1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed (Eric Cline, PhD)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcu-yso…

His book:
https://www.amazon.com/1177-B-C-Civiliza…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
I'll read Ananda stuff eventually. I'm sure there is some peripheral good in such reading. But that group and its main line doctrines and the kinds of people it attracts just run right up my spine.

Ananda is on Rick Ross Cult Awareness

Rick Ross book:
Rick Alan Ross, "Cults Inside Out"

https://www.amazon.com/Cults-Inside-Out-…

Cults inside out : how people get in and can get out / Rick Alan Ross. (2014)

To be fair though, anything which opposes Capitalism, is likely doing it by some degree of communalis. And to do this there need to be rules and authority.

So as one cartoon showed the ideas underlying libertarianism, its a guy riding his Harley Davidson around in circles in his living room, without a helmet, while firing his gun up in the air.

Most of the freedoms being espoused are meaningless for most people. Just a stupid ideology.

And besides, my org will be centered around liturgical sex. Bread and wine not needed.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So rather than calling everything a cult, those being more charitable about it use the term New Religious Movement

New religious movements : a documentary reader / edited by Dereck Daschke and W. Michael Ashcraft (2005)
The Bloomsbury companion to new religious movements / edited by George D. Chryssides and Benjamin E. Zeller (2016)


Controversial new religions / edited by James R. Lewis, Jesper Aa. Petersen.(2014)


And this has really influenced me, shown me that things could be very different from they are in lots of basic ways:

Moon sisters, Krishna mothers, Rajneesh lovers : women's roles in new religions / Susan Jean Palmer. (1994)

https://www.amazon.com/Sisters-Krishna-M…

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
It was actually because of a place I was at in a dream, that I decided to look into Ananda a bit. Actually I have long known about it and just dismissed it.

But the place, it could be elsewhere, even someplace I have never been to, or someplace I will build myself.

SJG

Rarely are people called upon to show moral the kind of moral courage needed by those who served in French Resistance

Nancy Wake: Gestapo's Most Wanted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNXKovYM…

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/073227…

Gary Clark Jr. - Bright Lights and notice Doyle Bramhall II, playing left handed and with a left hander's body, but with it strung for a right hander. Look close and you can see this, and if you listen to him play and watch closely you can hear it. He learned always using borrowed guitars from right handers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZeDn-h…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Richard Smoley: Magic and the Occult , speaking to the Theosophical Society, I think San Francisco. Smoley is a completely straight arrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh8ahm7B…

SJG

The Jeff Healey Band - Live In Belgium (Full Concert 1993)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_ufNFTA…

Federal Employees’ Union Sues Trump Administration as 420,000 Work Without Pay During Shutdown
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/1/2/fe…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Pablo Sender - Akashic Records: A Theosophical View ( as I know Akashic Record is a Blavatsky idea, but it has become an essential in all esoteric systems of thought, including AMORC, Manly P. Hall, and Meditations on the Tarot )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinmnuYj…

The Essentials of Theosophy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY0phC91…

The Theosophical Society in America: An Illustrated History
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bueOQUDN…

Theosophy UK Manly P Hall The Murdered Mystic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO2tXOLe…

The Theosophical Society: An Invitation to Serve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQlKSlXH…

Ron Miller: A Very Different Christian Story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwjWTKPv…

Connects Gandhi and Rajneesh to Theosophy ( for the former, it is well documented. For the latter, I have long felt that )
https://www.dougmichaeltruth.com/roads-l…

Origins of Kern Foundation
https://www.theosophical.org/publication…

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
American Theosophical Society President Barbara Hebert, speaking from Olcott ( National HQ, Wheaton IL )

17 of these monthly video blogs, but in inverse order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbNbKOGG…

SJG
Official Parking Lot Bouncer

As Most Diverse Congress in History Takes Office, Dems Push to End Shutdown Without Funding for Wall
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/1/4/mo…

'Leaked' Video Of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Proves She... Has Friends, Can Dance
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/apos-leak…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1noBAbLa…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBeuzWWK…

Edwin Starr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztZI2aLQ…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01-2pNCZ…

War - The World Is a Ghetto 1972 Full Album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmheOZtL…

How To Tell If Someone Is Truly Smart Or Just Average
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/how-t…

TJ Street
https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7318/961…
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5488/96200…
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/9620…
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5449/96322…

Warren Haynes ­with Joe Bonamassa -- Guitar Center's King of the Blues 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX14smq2…

Beth & Joe - I'd Rather Go Blind - Live in Amsterdam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEHwO_UE…

Beth & Joe - I Love You More Than You'll Ever Know - Live in Amsterdam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOQ07fVV…

Amazing Performance by Gary Clark Jr. - When My Train Pulls In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYXMDCNj…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So some accumulated info, mostly videos:

The Sexual Mysteries - Beyond Good and Evil (pt 1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ebyjgf…

And yes we do have all 4 parts. Says this was given at the Theosophical Society in the Hollywood Hills. ?? Can't be the old Krotona. Maybe it is this Annie Besant Lodge?

https://www.yelp.com/biz/besant-lodge-lo…

2560 N Beachwood Dr
Los Angeles, CA 90068

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.1169869,…

Feminism Literature and Cake
https://femlitcake.wordpress.com/tag/ann…

Annie Wood Besant (1847–1933) ( usually the Theosophical Society, to me at least, comes across as asexual. You find this in Blavatsky, Heindel, and Steiner. But Annie Besant was a fierce crusader for contraception and labor organizing.

https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/annie-wood-…

And then this, written by Phil Hine
http://enfolding.org/a-thousand-kisses-d…

http://enfolding.org/author/phil/

Then we have this Aleph Tav, seemingly OTO associated.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkZ3vWn…

SJG

Joe Bonamassa - "Sloe Gin" - Muddy Wolf at Red Rocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvvgZMGp…

Joe Bonamassa - "Midnight Blues" - Beacon Theatre - Live From New York
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z74lr3t…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So continuing:

We have the four parts about Kenneth Grant and his Egyptian Typhonian Magic. Grant being a successor to Crowley, with his Nu-Isis Lodge in London, 1955 to about 1975, his work may be a sex magick high water mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN8XpcU_…

Here we have the Irish Times talking about the Universal Co-Masons, the first to admit a woman. They still say they are the only. And they say Annie Besat brought them from France to the UK, and I guess to the US as well.
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-styl…

And then about the Liberal Catholic Church
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Ca…

Video:
http://www.thelccusa.org/messages-from-o…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE40AjdV…

SJG

Joe Bonamassa - "Sloe Gin" - Muddy Wolf at Red Rocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvvgZMGp…

Joe Bonamassa - "Midnight Blues" - Beacon Theatre - Live From New York
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z74lr3t…

Back in the mid-90s, three young Jewish women realized they could no longer keep silent about Israel’s occupation – and decided to do something about it. Watch their story – our story – here.
https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Liberal Catholic Church ( Theosophical Society affiliated )

2x videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE40AjdV…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNLLbOlv…

SJG

Steve Blank, Lean Startup Model

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Blan…

https://steveblank.com/

Baker Gurvitz Army - Love Is / Memory Lane / Drum Solo / People - Live 1975 (Remastered) HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8dX1iPe…

Deep Purple - Lazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EvYI5OT…

THE MOODY BLUES - RIDE MY SEE-SAW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfy8NJtg…

THE GUESS WHO - NO TIME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meIuAUnZ…

Ep. 002 - Masonic Heroes of the Holocaust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5WrmUcE…

Video podcasts
https://www.universalfreemasonry.org/en/…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Guy who disgracefully lost the 2014 and 2018 elections. Now he has got his sights on a school board. Need to make sure this guy is retired from our politics.

2018
https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/02/09/l…

Pierluigi Oliverio
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierluigi_…

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/01/17/n…
Looks like they have selected Carla Collins

Oliverio is a total asshole:
http://www.sanjoseinside.com/author/pier…

Yes indeed, he got squeezed out. One less thing I need to get involved in, but I will keep watching Oliverio.
http://www.sanjoseinside.com/2019/01/15/…



SJG

Herb Alpert 1965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u68NMAI…

Where did the idea for this originate?

Herb Alpert - Rise (HQ Audio)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vltC-O7P…

Feels So Good - Chuck Mangione [FULL VERSION]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwkwjOd7…

Diana Ross: Ain't No Mountain High Enough (Ashford / Simpson), 1970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_pmKPWL…

The 5th Dimension ≈ AQUARIUS ≈ Let The SUNSHINE In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILSr9Bbh…

Three Dog Night "Joy To The World" 1972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp7KfG9A…

^^^^^ obvious lip sync

1975, clearly recorded live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as8K3H7R…

Eli's Coming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CuNBeng…

No Time (1992) Ringo Starr, Burton Cummings, Joe Walsh and Todd Rundgren at Montreux
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ0E96Ql…

No Sugar Tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oHb4rZf…

Chicago - 25 or 6 to 4 - 7/21/1970 - Tanglewood (Official)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uAUoz7j…

Chicago - Old Days ( Live At The Dick Clark Show New Years Eve 1975 / 76 HQ )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKrBwuQL…

Procol Harum - A Whiter Shade of Pale, live in Denmark 2006
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St6jyEFe…

Trump has capitulated to Pelosi
Trump to Delay State of the Union Address Until Shutdown Ends
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/1/24/h…

Carly Simon - That's The Way I Always Heard It Should Be - 1971
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux7HgO9Q…

You're So Vain (a song I have always liked)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQZmCJUS…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Richard Smoley: Magic and the Occult, Theosophical Society, very knowledgeable and interesting man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh8ahm7B…

SJG

Saw this woman's picture somewhere and it reminded me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFZPBSh0…

https://www.e-chords.com/chords/shocking…

But while most all the videos for this song are clearly lip sync, and they even require people playing instruments not shown on stage, I have finally found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWb8_DH8…

I'm not against acoustic guitar, its just that I like electric guitar music so much. And electric guitar can do things which acoustic guitar cannot. Needs to feel like you are there with them, not like it is just a contrived television show. Letting this finally be the psychedelia it was intended to be.

Richard Smoley: Magic and the Occult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh8ahm7B…

Ecstasy of St. Teresa
https://s3.amazonaws.com/test.classconne…

Ferdinand de Saussure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_…

Heart - All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBfP63T0…

https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/hea…

Richard Feynman. Why. ( magnets )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36GT2zI8…

Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells III CONCIERTO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZq5huke…

King Crimson - Live In Japan (full concert)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYE7XCVA…

Parsifal and the Fisher King -- Beginner's Mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysTBkwVV…

Conscious Love: Insights from Mystical Christianity, by Richard Smoley
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/078798…

Joseph Campbell and Bill Moyers, Holy Grail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOEn5b0P…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Richard Smoley - The Kabbalah: Key to Hidden Knowledge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-R4sOrW…

SJG

Yanis Varoufakis: Socialism, Populism, Nationalism and Independence ( Aug 2018 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnFOfJsQ…

Yanis Varoufakis: Has capitalism failed us? ( May 2018 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gReGEDku…

Crazy Mini Engines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfDZKanK…

Shocking Blue - Venus ( live 1969 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWb8_DH8…

Have You Seen The Saucers - live, 1970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrVqhs4I…

1957, Italy, police officer issuing a woman a ticket for wearing a bikini
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/4642534/thumbs…

TJ Street
https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7318/961…
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5488/96200…
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/9620…
http://www.adelitasbartijuanamexico.com/…
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5449/96322…
ime
6 years ago
In 1967, Polish mercenary Rafal Ganowicz was asked what it felt like to take a human life. He replied: "I don't know, I've only ever killed communists"
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Invisible History of the Rosicrucians, by Tobias Churton (2014, and his books are always extremely well researched and very intellectually challenging )
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159477…


SJG

BBC computer composed music, 2014
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140808…

Rebels: A Journey Underground #1 - Society's Shadow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjsziYpd…

TJ Zona
http://doxyspotting.com/a-classic-pickup…

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=120146

like?
http://doxyspotting.com/?p=123014

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=149904

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=149934
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
San Jose Rosicrucian Order AMORC has improved a great deal over the last 20 years when the French took over. Overall, I think all of these esoteric groups are improving.

https://www.rosicrucian.org/

SJG

Mexico City, has so many people and cars on the streets, that if one is interested in hookers, likely best to find a bar, or you would really have to know that area.

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=70423

http://doxyspotting.com/yellow-dress/

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=129645

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=97293

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=70423

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=88173

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=112750

Richard Smoley, Inner Christianity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52xShzP5…

Business Law Today, 10th and 11th Edition, Roger LeRoy Miller
https://www.textbooks.com/Fundamentals-o…

New, Used, purchase as ebook (pdf) and in libraries

Esoteric Christianity -- Don Baker -- Theosphical Society in Seattle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdN4uI70…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Anyone here ever been a Mason, been a member of any of the various Free Mason groups, ever? Care to talk about it? Rosicrucian? Odd Fellows? O.T.O.?
Anthroposophophy? Theosophy? B.O.T.A.?

http://www.sanjose10.com/

Looks like they still do not have women. I had not known that this was still true.

Lots of books they recommend.

SJG


The End of Work and the Case for Universal Basic Income
Andy Stern, former President of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), author of Raising the Floor: How a Universal Basic Income Can Renew Our Economy and Rebuild the American Dream, and Senior Fellow at Columbia University's Center for Business, Law, and Public Policy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKzNBXFn…

How Ayn Rand Became a Hero to Right Wing Nerds -- Thom Hartmann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY1ik8bu…

Thom Hartmann: Atlas Shrugged - bizarre philosophy at work -- Thom Hartmann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHnnnmuY…

Alec Baldwin: Trump's 'SNL' Attack May Be 'A Threat To My Safety'
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/alec-bald…

Kim Kardashian
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kim-…

Thierry Mugler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Mu…
https://www.muglerusa.com/
http://www.livingly.com/The+Most+Beautif…

Intimidation, Pressure and Humiliation: Inside Trump’s Two-Year War on the Investigations Encircling Him -- New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/19/us/po…

Venus, Shocking Blue, actually live, with only what you see on stage, and not hamming for the camera, quite good, a coffee house grade performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWb8_DH8…

Alvin Lee – The Bluest Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB6OlJqV…

JEFF BECK -Brush With the Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlqyLqDt…

Joe Bonamassa - I'll Play The Blues For You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Jzcu5S…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Wow, they've got hundreds of lodges in CA. Four just in Muni San Jose, then lots of others in the county. I've been in one of the smaller ones.

https://freemason.org/becomeMember/lodge…

Oh I see, one address I had been to in Willow Glen does seem to be gone. But that "lodge" now meets at their real large facility.

They claim 50k members in CA. So then probably about 500k members for the USA. People say they have 5 Meg members world wide, and 5000 houses. I am not so sure about this.

https://www.siliconvalleymasons.com/

http://www.easternstar.org/

Inside the secret world of the Freemasons
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-…

SJG

A most impressive article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/19/us/po…

Ending the Punishment of Poverty: Supreme Court Rules Against High Fines & Civil Asset Forfeiture
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/2/21/e…

Frances Fox Piven, Professor of Political Science and Sociology at the Graduate Center, CUNY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQBgRPtL…

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IHG…

NOLO, Bourbon Street
http://doxyspotting.com/?p=131772

AZTECA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS9WVbQT…

Peter Green - In The Skies ( Full Album ) 1979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_Llz6n8…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zga8bhlm…

I love the smell of napalm in the morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALi78xSa…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inside-the-…

Okay, in the above CBS news video, 2013, they are saying 1.3 Million Masons in the US.

But down from 4 Million in 1959. Now doing good with Afro-Americans.

And lots of young men too.

Notice their 'altar', always 4 corners, but just 3 candles.

Hiram Abiff
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiram_Abif…

Really, no one here has ever been a Mason?

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Rule by secrecy : the hidden history that connects the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, and the Great Pyramids / Jim Marrs (2000)

https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Secrecy-Tril…

Freemasons Revealed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7cF2uKD…

SJG

Oakland CA
http://doxyspotting.com/?p=118715

In Poland, this is what their Lot Lizards look like
http://doxyspotting.com/lot-lizards-pola…

Italy, Lot Lizards
http://doxyspotting.com/lot-lizards/

The 100 Greatest Soul Songs of the 70s Unforgettable Soul Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ses5rI…

Etta James: Mystery Lady Songs of Billie Holliday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2I0AJ1k…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Masonic rites and wrongs : an examination of Freemasonry / Steven Tsoukalas (1995)

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Freemasonrywatch
http://freemasonrywatch.org/

SJG

Oakland CA
http://doxyspotting.com/?p=118715

In Poland, this is what their Lot Lizards look like
http://doxyspotting.com/lot-lizards-pola…

Italy, Lot Lizards
http://doxyspotting.com/lot-lizards/
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
The Complete Idiot s Guide to Freemasonry, by S. Brent Morris

https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiot-Gu…

above does talk about break away groups and women in freemasonry.

also

Freemasons for dummies / by Christopher Hodapp. (2005)

https://www.amazon.com/Freemasons-Dummie….

Still don't have much on Le Droit Humaine, which in 1882 in Paris broke away and started admitting women, and the became very close to the Theosophical Society.

Why I Left Freemasonry ( Masonic Improvement )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IIvGksH…

Masonic Improvement
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnKjPlQ…

SJG

Freemasons Revealed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7cF2uKD…

Joe Bonamassa : Live At The Greek Theatre ( full album)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoX0Olfq…

Clark Terry Quartet - Satin Doll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GivaZbLz…

Trump's Enemies List
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv…

Oakland CA

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=137215

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=115288
http://doxyspotting.com/oakland-curb-wal…

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=113690

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=113685

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=113683

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=113681

http://doxyspotting.com/street-hussy-oak…

at street sign
http://doxyspotting.com/?p=65601
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Universal Co-Masons
https://www.universalfreemasonry.org/

HQ in Larkspur Colorado

still can't tell what they have in CA

https://bloguniversalfreemasonry.wordpre…

But Le Droit Humaine has Ojai and Pasadena

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Masonic / Illuminati Temples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuT_4XEl…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3SSW9Y_…

Lodge Floor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2oy0U2D…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyBPVEAf…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp8iArnF…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoahEzVf…

SJG

Zucked
http://activate.metroactive.com/2019/02/…

Zucked: Waking Up to the Facebook Catastrophe
https://www.amazon.com/Zucked-Waking-Up-…

"worldwide apparatus of persuasive technology designed to keep users engaged by appealing to lizard brain emotions and modifying their behavior, all while harvesting personal data and metadata to sell to advertisers"

Broken Book
http://www.metroactive.com/features/Zuck…

Hidden Camera inside a Freemason Lodge ???? Looks good to me! ( stripper )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks_D2drI…

Miles Davis, Love for Sale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i6wNgg5…

John Coltrane My Favorite Things (1961)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHVarQbN…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Le Droit Humaine, clandestine lodge?

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-relati…

Le Droit Humaine, Ireland, one lodge
http://freemasonsireland.org/

https://www.theosophical.org/theosophy/t…
about war?

audio
https://www.theosophical.org/files/resou…

SJG

Kenneth Grant & Typhonian References
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex33k5hv…

Bernie Sanders Kicks Off 2020 Run in Brooklyn, New York

Sen. Rand Paul Likely to Oppose Nat’l Emergency in Decisive Vote

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/3/4/he…

Metallica - Ain't My Bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNXmKiEq…

Master of Puppets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7blkui3…

Metallica - Bleeding Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftV_XepI…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftV_XepI…

Thin Lizzy Full Concert U K 1983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq9qy6TD…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Theosophical Society, on war and violence, 55min audio workshop
https://www.theosophical.org/files/resou…

https://www.theosophical.org/theosophy/t…
has 7 articles

SJG

Ocasio-Cortez hopes to 'break this fourth wall' by responding to 'bad-faith attacks'
https://news.yahoo.com/ocasio-cortez-hop…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Huston Smith

Huston Smith: Psychedelic experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIzpURwm…

Cleansing the Doors of Perception: The Religious Significance of Etheogenic Plants and Chemicals
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159181…

Huston Smith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huston_Smi…

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Huston Smith

Huston Smith: Psychedelic experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIzpURwm…

Cleansing the Doors of Perception: The Religious Significance of Etheogenic Plants and Chemicals
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/159181…

Huston Smith
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huston_Smi…

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Want to look now at Annie Besant

UK Documentary on Human Rights Activist Annie Besant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLIPbf9R…

The Annie Besant Story Part 1 of 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HxjIwxE…

12 Things You Didn't Know About Annie Besant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxlkDoAP…

THE CHRISTIAN CREED; OR, WHAT IT IS BLASPHEMY TO DENY
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/39118/391…


I don't like reading all these books about Christianity. Really it is just defensive reading.

But now I am going to read something which goes beyond the pale, because I want to learn, and want to learn about Besant and the Theosophical Society.

Esoteric Christianity : or, The lesser mysteries.
Besant, Annie, 1847-1933.

SJG

John Mayer - Ain't No Sunshine - Live at the Crossroads Guitar Festival 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZyxyehN…

Gary Clark Jr. - Bright Lights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZeDn-h…

The Marriage Decision
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-m…

Yanis Varoufakis and Bernie Sanders
https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/2018/09/1…

How to Pick a Career (That Actually Fits You)
https://waitbutwhy.com/

Glucose Monitoring
https://www.dexcom.com/get-started-cgm/4…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Barbara Hebert: Social Justice and Spirituality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSkUV252…

Still trying to develop a balanced and fair view of the Theosophical Society, and all the two Masonic Groups and the Liberal Catholic Church which it connects to.

SJG

Elizabeth Warren, Town Hall Meeting, Jackson Mississippi, wants to eliminate Electoral College!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbx-CQcP…

Gary Clark Jr. - Bright Lights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZeDn-h…

Joe Bonamassa - If Heartaches Were Nickels LIVE at the Beacon Theatre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEnLwMVx…

Robin Trower - Long Misty Days (1976)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7N-L_kPc…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Theosophical Society
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSkUV252…

Theosophical World View
https://www.theosophical.org/theosophy/t…

Theosophy on War and Peace
https://www.theosophical.org/publication…

"But despite this exposure, the issue of a coherent Theosophical view on the morality and legitimacy of war does not seem to have presented itself forcefully to Blavatsky and Olcott."

Robert S. Ellwood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_S._…
http://www.robertellwoodbooks.info/

Theosophy : a modern expression of the wisdom of the ages / by Robert Ellwood (1986)

Theosophy in Times of War
https://www.theosophical.org/publication…

Pablo Sender, The Secret Doctrine, part 1 of 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2hdnG6…



SJG

Pink Floyd Pigs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOqblSqx…

Thin Lizzy - Whiskey In The Jar ( must be a song intended for violins, and notice no bass )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyQ-tScu…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlWTASnn…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq9qy6TD…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
"Annie Besant wrote about war and peace on several occasions. In general the concept of dramatic world evolution, in which war might have a necessary part, took precedence for her over strict pacifism."

talking about Mahabarata, Besant writes,

"Sometimes a whole nation goes wrong. Then the Gods place in its way a great war, or a famine, or a plague. The nation is gone wrong and must be driven right, or has gone wrong and must suffer, so as not to go wrong again. And the Great War, the story of which we are going to study, was brought about by the Gods, because it was necessary for the evolution of the nation."

"This passage, undoubtedly written with the then-recent Great War of 1914-18 in mind, reaffirms still more clearly that war can be of evolutionary and even character-building benefit."

"In 1940, as another great conflict was underway, the Theosophical Publishing House in Adyar produced a slim volume in the "Besant Spirit Series" called The High Purpose of War. Containing an enthusiastic foreword by George S. Arundale, it offers a collection of passages on this theme culled from her lectures and writings, mainly of course, from the World War I era. She continued:"

"We, who are servants of the White Brotherhood, who regard Love as the supreme Virtue, and who seek to enter into the Coming Age of Brotherhood and Co-operation, we can but follow the Guardians of Humanity, and work for the triumph of the Allied Powers who represent Right as against Might, and Humanity as against Savagery. The Theosophical Society, the society of the Divine Wisdom, founded by members of the White Brotherhood and Their Messenger in the world, must throw itself on the side which embodies the Divine Will for evolution, the side on which are fighting the super-men of the Day."

"A contemporary, and rival, of Annie Besant in Theosophical circles was the American, Katherine Tingley (1847-1929). Like Besant, she was active in social work before coming to Theosophy, and was also a Spiritualist. She founded a Society of Mercy in 1887 to visit hospitals and prisons, supporting it with dramatic recitals and Spiritualistic readings. She established the Martha Washington Home for the Aged in 1889, and a Do-Good Mission in New York in 1891. Her Spiritualistic and social concerns led to her meeting with William Q. Judge, head of the American Section of the Theosophical Society, in 1894. She became a Theosophist, convinced that its worldview placed both her spiritual and humanitarian commitments on a deep footing, and quickly became a close confidante of Judge."

"Tingley was therefore prepared to play a leading role in dramatic Theosophical events that were about to unfold. In 1895, at Judge's urging, the American Section declared its independence from the international Theosophical Society headquartered at Adyar, Madras, India, under the presidency of Henry Steel Olcott, and with which Besant was affiliated. Judge died in 1896 and within a couple of years Tingley had risen to the Presidency of the separated American section, though Annie Besant, on a whirlwind tour, won back a number of U.S. lodges."

"At the same time, Tingley was nursing another dream, the idea of a utopian Theosophical community, in which the arts, education, and labor would combine to create a new vision of human life. With the help of wealthy Theosophical patrons, the dream took shape. In 1897 land was bought on the Point Loma peninsula in San Diego, and by the turn of the century Katherine Tingley and many of her followers were settled in Lomaland, as the community was called, surrounded by imposing edifices with leaded glass domes and Egyptian gates. The Raja Yoga Academy, in which the community's children and youth were schooled, was particularly impressive because of its futuristic educational principles. She closed her remaining lodges, urging their leaders to join the new community."

"Tingley was passionately concerned with peace, as with many social issues. As she once recalled, this opposition was grounded in childhood memories of the dreadful and unforgettable expressions she saw on the faces of Civil War casualties; after that she could never again credence those who spoke of the "honor" and "glory" to be attained on the battlefield. In 1913 she organized and attended an international Theosophical Peace Congress in Sweden, held June 22-29. On the way back, she attended the Twentieth World Peace Conference in The Hague August 18-23. More peace meetings were convened at Point Loma. Once war had erupted in all its horror, Tingley and the Lomaland community swung into action with a "Sacred Peace Day for the Nations" on September 28, 1914, which as a day of prayer for peace drew endorsements from President Wilson and several governors; in San Diego there was a Peace Parade, "a great procession of protest" against the slaughter commencing across the Atlantic."

"In her writings on peace, Tingley emphasized a special role for America. It was to be the "Spiritual Mecca of the World," "The Cradle of the Sixth Sub-race" which would carry humankind to a higher level, and "The Torch-Bearer of Peace." But she recognized that the present United States was an imperfect vessel for this lofty destiny, "its duties were only half done," and there was much to regret in its past wars and injustices. The case might have been better "if our great America had from the beginning realized that Brotherhood is a fact of Nature.""

"For Tingley, this was a key fact, reiterated repeatedly: Brotherhood is a fact of nature. War is based on essentially false premises, promoted by the "pernicious propaganda" of the news media, whereas peace is based on the fundamental fact of "that Divinity which now stands in the background of human consciousness." More than Besant, for all her reformist zeal, and the cause of Indian self-rule to which she was by now giving herself even at the cost of brief imprisonment, Tingley together with Lomaland stood for and sought to exemplify what might be called a utopian, rather than evolutionary (in the Besant sense), Theosophical millennialism."

Lomaland, San Diego, 1900 to 1942
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lomaland

"I believe it is because Theosophy teaches and has taught the doctrine of human solidarity throughout the ages, because it holds that all men are brothers and are bound into one great family by bonds infinitely stronger and more lasting than those of mere nationality, it is because of this that the Theosophical Leader is calling this International Theosophical Peace Congress... [For] Theosophy is another name for the Wisdom-Religion, that religion which is coeval with man himself and anterior even to the earth upon which he dwells. . ."

"It was during the period between the World Wars, and during the Second World War, that Theosophy, or perhaps one should say Theosophists, attained greater prominence than before or since in the political life of several nations large and small. These persons were by no means entirely motivated by Theosophy in their political decisions, and their attitudes and actions in regard to war and peace issues are often contradictory one to another. Nonetheless I believe that by examining their careers one can discover certain fundamental presuppositions that can in turn be related to Theosophy in the age of progressive messianism."

"George Lansbury (1859-1940) was a long-time M.P. and prominent figure in the British Labor Party, serving as editor of the Labor national paper, the Daily Herald. In 1931 he became leader of the Laborite parliamentary opposition, at the time of the erstwhile Labor Prime Minister, Ramsey MacDonald's, controversial formation of a "National Government" coalition to confront the crisis of the Great Depression. Lansbury, an outspoken socialist since the 1890s, rallied those Laborites unwilling to support the coalition, and had that party then attained power would have become Prime Minister himself. He was also an uncompromising pacifist who had opposed World War I, and was a founder of the Fellowship of Reconciliation to aid conscientious objectors."

"In 1935 he resigned his leadership position in parliament because he could not concur with his party's support of sanctions against Mussolini's Italy over the invasion of Ethiopia. While he had little sympathy for the fascist dictatorship, he believed that economic sanctions were simply war under another name. (It should be added there is reason to think that Lansbury's resignation on this matter of principle may have been partly arranged by powers within the Labor party who felt the times demanded fresh leadership.) In the remaining years of his life, the former parliamentary leader worked assiduously for peace in a darkening Europe by visiting numerous capitals and conferring with leaders."

"Lansbury was a decided Christian, an active member of the Church of England who based his pacifism on Christian principles and was generally so identified. The press always called him a Christian pacifist; few sources other than Theosophical identify him as a Theosophist. With some justice, forthe Christian pacifist position has rarely been put more forcefully than in a passage like this by Lansbury:"

"Jesus and his disciples handed on the blessed truth that love of God through love of mankind is the law of life. By this statement of fact, he once for all destroyed the terrible doctrine that out of violence and slaughter connected with war, and out of the competitive struggle for wealth, the best character traits are developed. It is not possible to gather figs from thistles or develop love from violence and destruction. We cannot show our reverence and love of God through crushing our enemy in the dust or forcing our business competitor into bankruptcy."

"I joined the Theosophical Society in 1914, just after the outbreak of war. This was owing to Dr. Besant asking me to become a member of a committee of workmen to whom, under Sir Edwin Lutyens as architect, she had entrusted the erection of the Theosophical headquarters in Tavistock Square . . . but I had never thought of joining the Society till I came into close contact with the men and women on whose behalf we were carrying out this piece of work at Tavistock Square. I was asked to lecture for the society on Socialism and on Labor questions, and I also attended theosophical lectures. As a result of some talks with David Graham Pole I found myself able to accept the only condition of membership imposed by the Society, which is that all who join shall work together to establish a universal society based on Brotherhood. The Society has no other tests, theological or otherwise. . . I do not claim any more consistency for members of this society than for others, but I have personally received from my association with them more help, more encouragement to live my own life and express my own opinions and develop my own thinking than from any set of people with whom I have come in contact... It may be said I am prejudiced because of the great help I have received from some members of this Society in my political work, and especially in connection with the Daily Herald. It may be so, but. . . I am content to record my grateful thanks and appreciation of the friendship of. . . members of the Theosophical Society and Order of the Star.""

"It is clear that Lansbury as Theosophist was pre-eminently a result of the fact that, in the days of Annie Besant's leadership, the Society attracted the sort of people who were sympathetic to his concerns for pacifism and social justice, willing to talk with him about them, to listen to his lectures, and to give him much-appreciated practical support in his high-minded ventures. As indicated, most books and articles refer to him only as an Anglican and Christian pacifist, and in his own writing and speaking he gave far more attention to Christianity than Theosophy. Yet, perhaps in light of Theosophy's claim to represent a wisdom behind all religions, as well as its claim to espouse complete freedom of thought—a value very important to Lansbury—he saw no contradiction in the commitments. It is clear from the above passage that he valued what he believed the Theosophical Society represented, as well as his Theosophical associates, very highly."

"Yet differences with Besant are apparent. At his death, early in the war he had tried so hard to prevent, the Christian Century spoke of him as "a saint in politics," and commented that while many might have considered his Christian pacifist efforts "a waste of energy and a revelation of pitiable naivet," "we (Christian Century) believe no life devoted to any great aim as completely as Lansbury's was devoted to peace is ever thrown away." At the same time, George S. Arundale, editor of The Theosophist, published in Adyar, and International President of the (Adyar) Theosophical Society spoke of Lansbury as, "Fundamentally a Theosophist all his life," for he "was saturated with the brotherhood spirit." Arundale added that "war as a factor in evolution, though it has a constructive place in my philosophy, had no place in his—he was uncompromisingly for peace. While Dr Besant, in the war of 1914-1918, was supporting the Allies in the true warrior spirit, Mr Lansbury was opposing it in the spirit of the pacifist. . .Mr Lansbury was one of the greatest pacifists of his epoch. . . a genuine Theosophist.""

SPEAKING OF Vice President Henry Wallace:

"Both sides, the unity and the evolutionary necessity, the Tingley/ Lansbury and the Besant/ Arundalesides, can be discerned in the case of the third man under review, the sometime Theosophist Henry Agard Wallace (1888-1965), New Deal Secretary of Agriculture and Vice President of the United States 1941-45. As a wartime ranking official in a belligerent power, he had to come to terms with the moral questions, and like Arundale see potential for epochal good in the conflict, though his inner disposition was undoubtedly much closer to that of his fellow-politician/idealist, Lansbury. Like Tingley, he was very much in the American idealist/utopian/reformist tradition; like Besant and Arundale, he was in a position of some responsibility in the time of a war both hellish and of immense moral consequence. In the end, his view of the Second World War was almost apocalyptic, though perhaps less in Arundale's style than as a way of reaching Tingley's utopian vision. It was the final crisis which could usher in virtual fulfillment of a millennial human dream, the era of the Common Man."

"Religion and spirituality were always important to the shy, gawky, Wallace, who incidentally was also a sometime vegetarian, a teetotaller and rather ascetic, like Lansbury. Wallace was well known for his interest in "mysticism" and "occultism," particularly when they afforded a vision of the unity out of diversity for which he pined, that value so important to Theosophy but potentially at odds with evolutionary struggle."

"Arthur Schlesinger, in The Coming of the New Deal, provides an insightful overview of this side of the New Deal Secretary of Agriculture and later Vice-President. Schlesinger suggests that what particularly appealed to Wallace, "was the hope that the vision of spiritual unity might enable him to join together the two halves of his own personality. For as both scientist and mystic, both politician and prophet, both opportunist and idealist, Wallace was split down the middle. This interior division produced not creative tension but a wavering and torment of dissociation which he sought constantly to exorcise by mysticism or to bridge by rhetoric." (p.33) Part of that process may have been his membership in the Theosophical Society. Wallace joined the Society in Des Moines, Iowa, on June 6, 1925, when he was editor (1921-33) of his family's farm journal, Wallaces' Farmer, and resigned on or before November 23, 1935, when he was Secretary of Agriculture. He was also active in the Liberal Catholic Church in Des Moines between 1925 and 1929."

"As early as 1912, Wallace had met the Irish poet, mystic and agrarian reformer George Russell ("AE"), who was strongly influenced by Theosophy. His interests were shared by Wallace, and in 1930 the two mystical agronomists began corresponding. Through Russell, Wallace, now editor of Wallaces' Farmer, established links with others of similar bent. One correspondent was Charles Roos, a poet and Theosophist who was involved with the Temple of the People in Halcyon, California, a communalist off shoot of Theosophy. Wallace and Roos exchanged ideas on finding a new "religious... expression for the American people," a need which at that time he felt acutely. In November 1931 Wallace began a correspondence course with the Temple; its leader, William Dower, was able to inform Wallace that the future Vice-President had "a splendid knowledge" of Theosophical fundamentals. One imagines he must also have been aware of Katherine Tingley and her other Theosophical community on Point Loma."

Temple of the People, Halcyon CA
https://www.templeofthepeople.org/?v=751…

https://www.templeofthepeople.org/?v=751…

use zoom outs and changing back to maps to see where this is:

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.1047341,…

Close to Pismo Beach, just south of San Luis Obispo. But I had never heard of it before now!

"In 1932, however, Wallace's religious experimentalism was caught up by a "flap" over a talk hegave to a group of ministers in Des Moines, in which he reportedly opined that the world needed a"new religion." This remark produced a predictable flurry of criticism from the orthodox, and may haveled Wallace to realize that his universalist and esoteric spiritual interests could have unfavorable political consequences. Mark L. Kleinman notes that after this event "his Theosophical spiritualism receded into the deep background of his public thought," to be replaced by relatively more conventionally Christian expressions of his religiosity."

"Nonetheless, the values that had earlier led to the Theosophical quest remained to animate many of Wallace's public positions from the background. The cabinet secretary was particularly intrigued with the ideas of unity out of diversity and of coming eschatological events that might hasten the advent of unity in world history. . . the unity and fateful evolution sides. He was fascinated by symbolism; the Great Seal of the United States, with its phrase E pluribus unum held his attention, and even more the reverse side, with its incomplete pyramid and the words Novus ordo seclorum; he induced Secretary of the Treasury Morgenthau to put the reverse on the new dollar bill in 1935 by telling him that Novus ordo was Latin for New Deal!"

"There were others. Among Theosophical statesmen of the same period was Rex Mason, wartime Ministerof Justice in New Zealand. Among those said to have been influenced by Theosophy, though not members of the T.S., were Mohandas K. Gandhi, for whom the Bhagavad Gita was only allegorical of the general struggle against evil, in which none of us can rightly be non?combatants but which is most truly fought by non-violent means; and Augusto Sandino, the Nicaraguan mystic revolutionary."

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Theosophy in Times of War
https://www.theosophical.org/publication…

"Members of the Theosophical Society have faced war on many levels, as combatants and peacemakers, refugees and healers, workers and visionaries. Theosophists have been keenly aware of the opportunity warfare has afforded to break down social barriers and creatively reconstruct the world according to a new framework of brotherhood."

"Leaders of the Society in India and the United States were vocal in their opposition to American neutrality during both world wars. Loving peace, but viewing the world with the perspective of the ancient wisdom, they knew that just wars must at times be waged to transform society. Few members dissented from that vision. During those great wars, American Theosophists engaged in a wide range of patriotic activities. Lodges bought Liberty Bonds and proudly displayed service flags with a star for each member in the armed forces. During World War I, Theosophical club rooms for servicemen were opened near military bases in Houston, New Orleans, Washington, New Haven, Louisville, Rockford, Atlanta, Waco, Columbus, and Little Rock. A typical club provided a library, reading room, Victrola, piano, lectures, and entertainment. Houston hosted a ball in the city auditorium so that 350 heavily chaperoned girls could dance with soldiers from Camp Logan. At least 334 American members served in World War I."

"In World War II, Theosophists joined every branch of the armed forces, including WAC, WAVE, WAAC, Army Nurse Corps, and even the Aleutian Air Force. Meeting times changed to comply with blackout requirements. Lodges held concerts and sales to raise money for war relief, collected clothing and food for refugees, and corresponded with servicemen. Many lodges hosted Red Cross auxiliaries, which gathered to knit and sew while a member read aloud from inspiring texts. In 1940 alone, the small Oak Park, Illinois, Lodge supported the war effort with 200 garments and 6490 surgical dressings. Hundreds of thousands of reassuring leaflets were handed out at service clubs, mailed to families, and tucked into the pockets of handmade hospital pajamas."

The Strange Theosophical Connection to the U.S. Civil Rights Movement
http://usreligion.blogspot.com/2013/01/t…

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
The Strange Theosophical Connection to the U.S. Civil Rights Movement
http://usreligion.blogspot.com/2013/01/t…

"Theosophical Society had an important role in setting civil rights in motion in India, and the American civil rights movement through the person of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi"

"Theosophists who asked him if he had read the Bhagavad Gita. Sheepishly, he replied no. They invited him to read a copy, as it held a central place within Theosophy. Gandhi did begin to read the Gita, and he attended Theosophical classes. In a biographical essay about Gandhi in The New Yorker, Indian writer, Ved Mehta, relates, “It was actually thanks to his Theosophist friends that Gandhi started learning about his own religion, by reading the Bhagavad Gita, which he was ashamed of never having read, either in the original Sanskrit or in a Gujarati translation, and which he now tackled eagerly in Sir Edwin Arnold’s popular English translation. In time the Bhagavad Gita became the most important book in his life.”"

"At one point Gandhi met with Madame Blavatsky and Annie Besant and they discussed Theosophical doctrine and Hinduism. Gandhi also read Theosophical literature such as The Key to Theosophy, and maintained a constant contact with the Theosophical Society and Besant while in South Africa. Thus it was through Theosophy that Gandhi discovered Hinduism, and in particular, the Gita, a text he found so central to his life."

"However, this is not all. A number of European and Indian Theosophists helped found the Indian National Congress (INC) in 1885 and held a strong connection with the Indian national rights movement. Annie Besant, second President of the Theosophical Society, serving from 1907 to 1931, was also elected president of the Indian National Congress in 1917. Moreover, in 1914, Besant and other Theosophists helped found the All India Home Rule League, an organization that lobbied the British government to allow India to rule itself."

"Isaac Lubelsky documents these interactions and much more in his recent Celestial India: Madame Blavatsky and the Birth of Indian Nationalism (Equinox Pub., 2012). Lubelsky also points out, however, that there eventually arose a tension between well-meaning Europeans seeing India through an Orientalist lens and Indians who strove for leadership of their own nationalism movements and to include all Indians, not just the Brahman elite the Theosophists promoted. "



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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
John Algeo had been President of the Theosophical Society, so he should know there stuff. He quotes Blavatsky's "The Key to Theosophy". 170 pages. Her previous books are about 1200 pages.

https://www.amazon.com/Key-Theosophy-H-P…

The key to theosophy / by H.P. Blavatsky (1889)

pg 48-49

"The ethics are there, ready and clear enough for whosoever would follow them.
They are the essence and cream of the world’s ethics, gathered from the teachings
of all the world’s great reformers. Therefore, you will find represented therein
Confucius and Zoroaster, Laotze and the Bhagavat-Gita, the precepts of Gautama
Buddha and Jesus of Nazareth, of Hillel and his school, as of Pythagoras, Socrates,
Plato, and their schools."

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Theosophist speaking at UU Church in St. Paul MN

https://www.grovelanduu.org/services/the…

Have you heard of Theosophy? This is the from the Theosophical Society of America: “Our mission is to encourage open-minded inquiry into world religions, philosophy, science, and the arts in order to understand the wisdom of the ages, respect the unity of all life, and help people explore spiritual self-transformation.”

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
History of Unitarianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of…

talking about Sweden
"Later many Unitarians turned to theosophy."


Sabellianism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabelliani…

Sabellium
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabellius

What is Theosophy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHDZlEDW…

Blavatsky, Spiritual Traveler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy48wvcn…

Theosophy or Jesuitism - by H.P. Blavatsky (1888)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24W_XskG…

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Prof James Santucci, CSU Fullerton

http://csul.iii.com/search~S0?/asantucci…

right here, James A. Santucci, 1985, not in libraries
https://www.amazon.com/Theosophy-Theosop…

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Pablo Sender: Living Theosophy―Light on the Path: Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs237gmu…

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
^^^^^^ That would depend on what kinds of posts you make on it.

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So in hand now:

Esoteric Christianity
or
The Lesser Mysteries

by Annie Besant

The Theosophical Publishing House
Adyar, Madras 20, India
1957

also a sticker lists Theosophical Press at Wheaton, Illinois.

I know there is at least one newer edition, but the first edition was 1901.

So I am curious to see how much Annie Besant really knew about such things. What sources does she cite, besides scripture?

Clement of Alexandria

Iamblichus

G. R. S. Mead, on Plotinus, and on Orpheus.

Wynn Westcott, Sepher Yezirah ( co-founder of Golden Dawn, doing translation

Bhagavad Gita

Origen Against Celsus

The Mysteries of Magic, Trans. by A. E. Waite ( Eliphas Levi )

Valentinus, Pistis Sophia

Talks about Spinoza and Paracelsus

Plato's Republic, bk7, the cave

Justin Martyr

Tertullian

Okay, I am impressed. Mostly Church Fathers, Neo-Platonists, and some 19th Century Occultists. Had not know that Besant knew about such things, or necessarily that the Theosophical Society dealt with such.

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Message sent to a friend:

I had a dream. In it I went to a bookstore. It was a place I knew, but had not been to much.

Considered this when I awakened. Thought it might have been AMORC. Then thought it might have been Ananda, as I liked that bookstore they had in Menlo Park decades ago. So I watched some Ananda youtubes. Reminded me how much their people go right up my spine. An East Indian flavored version of New Thought.

So I thought more, where is it? Maybe some place I have not really been, not in this life time.

I had always kind of dismissed Blavatsky and the Theosophical Society, hearing the standard criticisms. But in recent years hearing how all of these esoteric groups seem to follow Blavatsky. So much I have read from these groups, and it really makes no sense until you understand that there is this common source. It's like AMORC is just a dumbed down version.

And then, some feel that both Marx and Lenin were influenced by Free Masons. But the standard Marxist position is that Masonry is just like religion, an opiate. And with most of these groups, I say that that is true, they promote complacency and a tune out.

But the Theosophical Society was central to India's Independence Movement. And Besant was a Fabian Socialist, a labor union organizer, and she was jailed for being a birth control advocate.

I had been to Ojai for bicycle events. But never to the Krotona Property. But I have always found that old Hollywood Krotona interesting. So I figured that what I was seeing in the dream, was the Ojai Krotona. And they have two affiliated co-ed Masonic groups, and this Liberal Catholic Church. So I am trying to learn. What I would really like to see are guerilla actions in the Spanish Civil War, or in French Resistance, or direct involvement in the US Civil Rights Movement. So far I see that they boast that during both world wars they criticized Gandhi for his pacifism, and the U.S. for its neutrality, and that their members joined all branches of all US Armed Services.

So in hand now, "Esoteric Christianity, or the lesser mysteries" by Annie Besant. I have a 1957 edition. But the original publication was 1901. And it was printed at their place in India.

Most of the sources I would think of did not exist in 1901.

But besides scripture, Besant draws from Church Fathers, Neo-Platonists, and some from 19th Century Occultists.

She is trying to argue that this esoteric side exists, coming from before the life of the historic Jesus, and then in the lore and scripture which was developed afterwards.

Manly Palmer Hall held Blavatsky in the highest esteem. And he also argues for an Esoteric Christianity, largely to be found in Neo-Platonism.

I have so much to learn. Not reached any conclusions. But having had Aldus Huxley and Charlie Chaplin, that is a whole lot better than having Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

Very interesting site, lots of free PDF's, like Meditations on the Tarot, and Martinist stuff.
https://thavmapub.com/free-pdf-library/

Reading Huston Smith talk about the Prayer of the Heart, or the Jesus Prayer, I realized that learning to do that is so similar to what Gurdjieff taught. And yes I see, others see that and believe that he learned at Mt. Athos.




Bachman Cummings - These Eyes, Laughing, Undun & No Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLw-6A7U…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_gxQt-b…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ0E96Ql…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
This is hard to explain, but Besant is arguing against evolution, against cultural evolution, and against biological evolution.

This is key to Blavatsky as well, and it is common in esotericism. How it really works and the ramifications, they are complex.

It does sound like elitism, and probably racism. She is talking about some truly great people who have founded religions long ago. So there is not an expanding of knowledge, there is a loss of knowledge.

This is why esoteric teachings are challenging, and can be problematic.

But remember, the Theosophical Society has always been committed to 100% inclusion, and 100% against racism.

Comparative Mythologists, arguing that religion evolved from ignorance.

Comparative Religionists, arguing that religions originate from the teachings of Divine Men.

I can see how this would be compatible with Neo-Platonism. But I also see how such teachings are always very challenging.

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So Besant indicates that there is always a need for two religious teachings, one for the herd, and one for the people of intelligence and sensitivity.

She talks about Andrew Lang

The making of religion / Andrew Lang (1997 editon , originally 1898 )

https://www.amazon.com/Making-Religion-A…

full book online:

https://archive.org/details/makingofreli…

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So Besant talks about Atlantis and connects that to the Great Flood, and to something in the Hindu scriptures.

talks about Clement of Alexandria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_of…

talks about his work, Stromata.

talks about Iamblichus

GRS Mead, on Plotinus

Proclus, Pythagorean School, Kabbala, Rabbi Moses de Leon.

Hebrew Schools of Initiation, Bethel and Jericho.

Grand Lodge in Central Asia

Porphyry.

the teacher of Plotinus, and lots of others.

Need to start reading Neo-Platonism.

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So Besant is getting most of her stuff from this Ante-Nicean Library, written by Clark.

It sounds like it is this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante-Nicen…

Published between 1867 and 1873. Remember that Besant published her book in 1901.

Yes, it is still available:
https://www.amazon.com/Ante-Nicene-Fathe…

Besant is getting multiple people out of it, but what she draws upon the most are Clement of Alexandria, and Origen.

She does make a good case that this Esoteric Christianity did exist, and hence must still exist.

I don't know how much what Besant is talking about connects to Blavatsky, or how much any of that connects with this Traditionalist School of Rene Guenon, or to this Perennial School, or how much that connects to Aldous Huxley either.

https://www.amazon.com/Ante-Nicene-Fathe…

Here on page 76, Besant writes:

Glancing down the centuries we find no time in which Christendom was left wholly devoid of mysteries. "It was probably about the end of the 5th century, just as the ancient philosophy was dying out in the Schools of Athens, that the speculative philosophy of Neo-Platonism mad a definite lodgement in Christian thought through the literary forgeries of the Pseudo-Dionysius. The doctrines of Christianity were by that time so firmly established that the Church could look upon a symbolical or mystical interpretation of them without anxiety. The author of the Theologica Mystica and the other works ascribed to the Areopagite proceeds there for to develop the doctrines of Proclus with very little modification into a system of esoteric Christianity. God is the nameless and supra-essential One, elevated above goodness itself. Hence 'negative theology,' which ascends from the creature to God by dropping one after another every determinate predicate, leads us nearest to the truth. The return to God is the consumation of all things and the goal indicated by Christian teaching. The same doctrines were preached with more of churchly fervor by Maximus, the Confessor, (580 - 622). Maximus represents almost the last speculative activity of the Greek Church, but the influence of the Pseudo-Dionysian writing was transmitted to the West in the ninth century by Erigenea, in whose speculative spirt both the scholasticism and the mysticism of the Middle Ages have their rise.

she talks abot Bernard Clairvaux, and Bonaventura the Seraphic Doctor, and Aquinas, and how Pseudo-Dionysius links him to the Neo-Platonists.

Talks about Giordano Bruno, the Pythagorean.

Talks about Elizabeth of Hungary, and about Eckhart as a worthy inheritor of the Alexandrian Schools.


GRS Mead said that Aquinas, Tauler, and Eckhart followed Pseudo-Dionysius, who followed Plotinus, Iamblichus, and Proclus, who in turn followed Plato and Pythagoras.

Talks about Jacob Bohme

Talks about John of the Cross

Talks about Rosicrucianism and Robert Fludd

Talks about Louis Claude de St Marin (1743-1803)

Talks about Eliphas Levi, and Kabbala


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Christianity and Unknowing, Richard Rohr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnTC4NNI…

Pablo Sender - The Secret Doctrine: Part 1 - How to Study The Secret Doctrine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2hdnG6…

Social Entrepreneurship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_ent…

Robert A. Caro on the means and ends of power
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019…

The Irrationality of Alcoholics Anonymous
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-i…

Origins of the Perennial Philosophy School of Thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_CNg4dp…

Ananda Coomaraswamy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananda_Coo…

Pretend You Have A Cold, Pelosi to Biden
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/p…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyLcmOy9…

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AMLO: How Mexico’s New Leftist President Has Navigated Corruption, Inequality and Trump
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/3/am…

https://clipground.com/images/symbols-of…

The myth of self-control
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-m…

Zubin Mehta and Khatia Buniatishvili
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efM91uXU…

Dave Matthews Band - All Along The Watchtower (Live in the Central Park)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOaMQ-R9…

Dave Matthews Band - Cortez, The Killer (from The Central Park Concert)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiO13jTs…

Quicksilver Messenger Service - Fresh Air - 12/28/1975 - Winterland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNE0CKK7…

TJ Street
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5488/96200…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Nothing but an unfinished song : Bobby Sands, the Irish hunger striker who ignited a generation / Denis O'Hearn. (2006)

How about Frantz Fanon

Fanon : the postcolonial imagination / Nigel C. Gibson (2003)

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Meditations on the Tarot
https://www.amazon.com/Meditations-Tarot…

https://thavmapub.files.wordpress.com/20…

Annie Besant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Besa…

How about other available Besant books

The Ancient Wisdom (1897)

Annie Besant : an autobiography (1908)

From the outer court to the inner sanctum

The origins of theosophy : Annie Besant--the atheist years / edited with an introduction by J. Gordon Melton

Thought-forms / by Annie Besant and C. W. Leadbeater

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Terrorism : an introduction / Jonathan R. White (1998)

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
THREE MINUTE THOUGHT: FRANTZ FANON ON VIOLENCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcBuCcyd…

The Blanket
http://indiamond6.ulib.iupui.edu:81/idea…

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Frantz Fanon: The Wretched of the Earth (audio bk 1/7) Intro by J.P Sartre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDjRF17E…

Frantz Fanon: The Wretched of the Earth (audio bk 2/7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fydi9CS…

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Christianity and Unknowing, Richard Rohr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnTC4NNI…

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Woman At The Well (John 4)
https://cac.org/category/homilies/

SJG

https://cac.org/

Center for Contemplation and Action, oldest neighborhood in Albuquerque, close to highway 40 and 25 junction.
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.0702708,…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Lecture on Frantz Fanon (Decolonizing the earth)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ThoGtS-…

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Battle of Algiers, Female Cafe Bombers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hYtN2zW…

2nd part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oAtMMvn…

Fanon is the one who re-wrote Marx for the next 100 years!

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So listening to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWRlx4J…

came from:
Elementary Theosophy, Occult Teachings of Madame Helena Blavatsky, Audiobook by L. W. Rogers

seems to be:
https://www.amazon.com/Elementary-Theoso…

Elementary theosophy / by L.W. Rogers

SJG

https://www.oysteryachts.com/yachts/flee…

TJ Street
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5488/96200…

Elementary Theosophy (Teachings of Madame Helena Blavatsky)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWRlx4J…

Theosophy for Everyone
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soMfddkG…

Progressive Jews Finally Getting Some Voice:

https://ifnotnowmovement.org/

https://younevertoldme.org/
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So, finishing up with Annie Besant's "Esoteric Christianity". Want to record some things. I understand what she is saying, and I generally agree with it. But, Besant was a Union Organizer, Birth Control Advocate, Fabian Socialist, and Marxist. So are Esoteric Christianity and Theosophy just she wimping out and accepting an opiate?

I need to read a biography of her, and preferably written by someone outside of the Theosophical Society.

Annie Besant : a biography / Anne Taylor (1992) Oxford U Press

https://www.amazon.com/Annie-Besant-Biog…

Okay, so then the material I want to record from Esoteric Christianity:

So Kabbala is being attributed to Rabbi Moses de Leon, who passed away in 1350 A. D..

Five books, Bahir, Zohar, Sepher Sephiroth, Sepher Yetzirah, and Asch Metzareth.

Talks of Epistle of Polycarp, Epistle of Barnabas ( authenticity in question )

and The Martyrdom of Ignatius.

A lot from Origen against Celsus

The Mysteries of Magic, by Eliphas Levi, trans A. E. Waite, pages 58 -60

Valentinus, trans G. R. S. Mead, Pistis Sophia

Williamson's Great Law, W. Williamson
The Great Law: A Study of Religious Origins and the Unity Underlying Them
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Law-Religio…

Charles Webster Leadbeater
The Christian Creed: Its Origin and Signification
https://www.amazon.com/Christian-Creed-I…

SJG

https://www.oysteryachts.com/yachts/flee…

TJ Street
https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5488/96200…

Elementary Theosophy (Teachings of Madame Helena Blavatsky)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkWRlx4J…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So more on Annie Besant's "Esoteric Christianity", originally published in 1901

So chapter, "The Mythic Christ" page 106

"... there are certain Beings who embody the principles and whose activities are the laws; there are hosts of inferior beings who act as vehicles for these activities, as agents, as instruments; there are the Egos of men intermingled with all these, performing their share of the great kosmic drama. These multi-farious workers in the invisible worlds cast their shadows on physical matter, that make up the physical universe. These shadows give but a poor idea of the objects that cast them, just as what we call shadows down here.
"

The Esoteric, the Occult, always seems to need these entities between God and man. Not sure why. Maybe it is because there has to be a plurality of beings, beyond the world we are in?

Who was it who believed in angels? I think it was the Sadducees, but not the Pharisees.

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Joe Golem: Occult Detective Volume 2--The Outer Dark

https://www.amazon.com/Joe-Golem-Occult-…

Brian Eno ( quite good )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggLTPyRX…

Is it possible to have computers generate such music on their own, and even in real time?

Pablo Sender - The Secret Doctrine: Part 1 - How to Study The Secret Doctrine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O2hdnG6…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So finishing up with "Esoteric Christianity" by Annie Besant.

Talking about the Trinity, she goes into the proclamations that there is only one God.

Then, "But as the Manifested God, the One appears as Three.
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Among the Hebrews, in consequence of their anthropomorphizing tendencies, the doctrine was kept secret, but the Rabbis studied and worshipped the Ancient of Days, from whom came forth the Wisdom, from who the Understanding -- Kether, Chockmah, Binah, these formed teh Supreme Trinkty, the shining forth in time of the One beyond time.
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(and then about Binah they talk about heavenly Intelligence, where the Egyptians had their Cneph, and Plato his Nous Demiurgos)"

Talk about H. H. Milman, "The History of Christianity", 1867, and a doctrine which ran from the Ganges to the Yellow Sea, and was the basis of Zoroastrianism. It was pure Platonism.

Talk about a Metatron, who delivers the law, like Gal 3 - 19.

Talks about the Third Person being feminine, or there being a second Trinity which is feminine.

Talks about there being a Fourth, and that being feminine, and so it is a quarternary.

SJG

Academic Freedom at Risk After Decades of Right-Wing Attacks and Cuts to Education
https://www.democracynow.org/2019/4/10/a…

Stanley Clarke Herbie Hancock & Chaka Khan Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9urd9Mc5…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Will have in hand soon:

A chosen faith : an introduction to Unitarian Universalism / John A. Buehrens and Forrest Church ; new foreword by Robert Fulghum ; new preface by Denise Davidoff (1998, read some of this before )

SJG

Free - Wishing Well (Official Video, w/ the Leyland dump truck)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKy_puDD…

April Wine - I Like to Rock (Official Music Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlcY_enz…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
A chosen faith : an introduction to Unitarian Universalism / John A. Buehrens and Forrest Church ; new foreword by Robert Fulghum ; new preface by Denise Davidoff (1998, read some of this before )

This F. Forrest Church, he wrote so well. If his style of reasoning were the norm, this would be an entirely different country, a different world.

page 163

"
The philosopher and theologian Paul Tillich once said that "the first word of religion must be spoken against religion." When spoken, it is almost always a word of warning against idoloatries of the mind and spirit."

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san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So in hand now,

"The Cathedral of the World"

A Universalist Theology

by F. Forrest Church

2009

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John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers with Gary Moore - So Many Roads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwc7ZEYf…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Right here, "The Cathedral of the World, a Universalist Theology" by Forrest Church.

page 39, What Would Jefferson Do?

"
John Adams and Thomas Jefferson together embody the Declaration of Independence, the former as the document's most compelling sponsor, the later its author -- then together through the stirring coincidence of their both dying on July 4, 1826, fifty years to the day it was published.
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Theologically, the second and third U.S. presidents were unitarians: Adams, a member of the Quincy, Massachusetts, congregation; Jefferson a sect unto himself.
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As the election of 1800 drew near, Adams faced that looming electoral rematch against Jefferson, his vice president and political enemy. The Federalists derided the politically potent Virginian as an "atheist" (untrue), a "deist" (true), and a "Jacobin" (i.e., "French radical," also true). The Federalists summed up their two greatest nightmares, atheism and popular democracy, by hurling the epithet "Jacobin" at their opponents.

Adams had no sympathy for the French Revolution. Years later, he looked back bitterly on the "hot, rash, blind, headlong, furious efforts to ameliorate the condition of society, to establish liberty, equality, fraternity, and the rights of man." Adams especially scorned Democratic-Republicans like Jefferson who admired the revolutionary French Republic.

(speaking of Independence Day celebrations) The Democratic-Republicans wore French colors (cocked hats with a knot of red, white, and blue ribbons pinned to the side), in saucy contrast to the less frivolous black cockades Federalist stalwarts wore, harking back to the Revolutionary days. To Federalist eyes, Democratic-Republicans with their tricolor cockades had taken the Fourth of July hostage by drawing undue attention to the Preamble of the Declaration of Independence. In writing the Declaration, Jefferson had introduced three lofty principles (the right to liberty, God-given equality, and popular sovereignty) and one incendiary one (the people's authority to overthrow their government). The Federalists' problem, as they themselves soon recognized, lay in the Declaration of Independence itself.

Early in Adam's presidency, proper Philadelphians boycotted Independence Day, which might as well have been Bastille Day as far as the local Federalists were concerned. Nary a black cockade was to be seen on the anniversary of the nation's birth. Many church bells remained silent. And every reveler crowding Independence Square was indecently festooned in heretical red, white, and blue. In New England, separate tricolor and black cockade Fourth of July celebrations became the rule. In their orations, Federalist preachers and politicians dedicated their energies on the nation's birthday to critique the un-American, anti-Christian dogma that Jefferson so impudently inserted into the nation's founding document. In his Boston Independence Day oration in 1799, John Lowell warned his listeners to beware "the seductive doctrines of 'Liberty' and 'Equality.'"

The year before, Alexander Hamilton had no difficulty convincing Adams that for the government to proclaim a national fast day, a federal request honored by all the churches that chose to participate, would galvanize his more conservative Federalist political base. Indeed it did. Raising a host of traditional black cockades, hundreds of New England preachers seized this governmentally sanctioned opportunity to pronounce French and Jeffersonian infidelity a demonic double threat to the future of America's Christian republic.

Later in life, Adams looked back ruefully on his decision to promote a religious event for political gain. He went so far as to claim that it cost him the presidency. for one thing, it left the plausible impression that he had buckled under pressure from Presbyterian church leaders, who urgently were calling for the president to proclaim a day of national worship.

Declaring a national fast was like poking a stick into a nest of hornets. In alarm, dissenting Christians (Baptists, Methodists, and the like) howled that Adams was compromising church-state separation. For sound religious reasons, not only did they boycott the fast, but they also came out in droves to support Jefferson, the more secular candidate.
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The Declaration of Independence elevated people's sights by placing human law on a higher moral pediment. The result was a civil ethic in which the ideals of liberty and equality received unprecedented priority.
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In its ringing, redemptive moral urgency, Jefferson's Preamble is rightly remembered as the American Creed.




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I tell you, this F. Forrest Church, son of Idaho Senator Frank Church, he really knows his stuff, and he writes well too. If his kind of thinking and reasoning were typical in America, this country, then it would be an entirely different sort of country, and the entire world would be different too.

SJG

Georges Delerue, Music for the film Dien Bien Phu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNoPRu1u…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz0Adk2O…


Monterey Pop Festival 1968 CD1 cut (really good)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAOH4mYk…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So F. Forrest Church deviates in his thinking from Ralph Waldo Emerson.

Here is a book Church recommends:
The making of American liberal theology : crisis, irony, and postmodernity 1950-2005 / Gary Dorrien

But he is talking about the third volume?

Gary Dorrien also has a book on Karl Barth.

I see, he has 3 time intervals.1950 to 2005 is the third interval.

Dorrien also has this:
Social Democracy in the Making: Political and Religious Roots of European Socialism

"
The fallout from twenty years of neoliberal economic globalism has sparked a surge of interest in the old idea of democratic socialism—a democracy in which the people control the economy and government, no group dominates any other, and every citizen is free, equal, and included. With a focus on the intertwined legacies of Christian socialism and Social Democratic politics in Britain and Germany, this book traces the story of democratic socialism from its birth in the nineteenth century through the mid‑1960s.
"

So here is that volume 3
https://www.amazon.com/Making-American-L…

I think chapter 8 deals with Forrest Church and his "Recovering Transcendentalist Universalism", and his roots in Paul Tillich.

( Why is religion in our country run by people who are less knowledgeable than the late Forrest Church?)

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
^^^^^ Wanting to be getting back to the above.

But now, in hand:

The Essential Tillich

an anthology of the writings of Paul Tillich

edited and with a preface by F. Forrester Church

University of Chicago Press

originally 1987
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
The Essential Tillich

an anthology of the writings of Paul Tillich

edited and with a preface by F. Forrester Church

University of Chicago Press

originally 1987


Tillich is awesome. He actually thinks very much the way I long have. But I could not write what he has written.

If Tillich were widely understood, you would hear this sound, the Helium coming out of a deflating I AM A CHRISTIAN INDUSTRY.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Tillich is awesome, then there are also now these postmodern and post structural theologians. If people understood this, the I AM A CHRISTIAN INDUSTRY would die.

SJG

Police live 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXZTcL8k…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So finishing up with "The Essential Tillich" by F. Forrester Church. I won't pretend that the book was easy to read, it was challenging. But no one better qualified than Church to anthologize Tillich.

If most people in the US though like Tillich and Church, this would be an entirely different country. And the I AM A CHRISTIAN INDUSTRY would explode into flames just like the Hindenburg.

So I want to record some stuff from the book:

So Church says that when he came to Harvard Divinity School, there were followers of Tillich, and also of Barth, Bultman, Bonhoeffer, and Brunner. And I know that there were even more from that generation.

So Church has selected Tillich pieces from:

"The Lost Dimension in Religion", Saturday Evening Post 230, no. 50 June 14, 1958.

Dynamics of Faith

The New Being

"Religious Symbols and Our Knowledge of God", Christian Scholar, Sept 1955

The Eternal Now

Systematic Theology Vol. 1, 2, 3

The Protestant Era

The Socialist Decision

Love Power and Justice

The Courage To Be

The Shaking of the Foundations

Biblical Religion and the Search for the Ultimate Reality

And when talking about relations with other religions, Tillich endorses Karl Barth.

Talking about "Faith and the Dynamics of the Holy", Tillich talks about Rudolph Otto and his book, "The Idea of the Holy". Otto talks about the "fascinating and shaking character of the holy".

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So here, returning to

"A Chosen Faith" by John A. Buehrens and F. Forrest Church, a very well done book.

Has quote from "Infinite in All Directions", by Freeman Dyson

https://www.amazon.com/Infinite-All-Dire…

Dyson has also written:

https://www.amazon.com/ADVANCED-QUANTUM-…

and this looks very good!

But not so readily available right now.

Ok, also mention of

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/087395…

but also not so readily available.



SJG

Led Zeppelin II - (Full ReMastered )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bcIjILq…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
All Souls UU NYC
https://www.allsouls-nyc.org/about/our-m…

Galen Guengerich, Senior Minister

God revised : how religion must evolve in a scientific age / Galen Guengerich (2013)

SJG

Quicksilver Messenger Service - What About Me - 12/28/1975 - Winterland (Official)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOJk74QC…

Michelle Alexander on The New Jim Crow, at Union Theological Seminary ( she wrote a very important book )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T79I1PLT…

Paul Tillich Symposium: John Caputo Lecture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cog1v44W…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Charles Webster Leadbeater

I know there are serious problems with this guy. I want to learn about him because he was central to this Liberal Catholic Church and to the Theosophical Society, and seemingly close to Annie Besant.

We have this, A textbook of theosophy / by C. W. Leadbeater 1971, 11th edition.

Got this picked out for reading about Annie Besant

Annie Besant : a biography / Anne Taylor (1992) Oxford U Press

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_We…

Also, J. I. Wedgwood, and serious problems with him too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._I._Wedg…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Ri…

1911, book about Organ Stops
A comprehensive dictionary of organ stops, English and foreign, ancient and modern : practical, theoretical, historical, aesthetic, etymological, phonetic / by James Ingall Wedgwood ; with a foreword by Francis Burgess

Some of the LCC rite
http://www.universalcatholic.org/Library…

And here, the UCC rite:
http://www.universalcatholic.org/

and here is the LCC
http://www.thelccusa.org/

William S.H. Downey, presiding bishop, can't find any books by him, but that UCC site is a treasure trove.

I find this though

The Liberal Catholic Church : an analysis of a hybrid sect / Warren Christopher Platt. (1982)

So apparently UCC has its own church properties:
http://www.universalcatholic.org/locatio…

enough for now

SJG





Sounds like Besant totally stands up for Leadbeater.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-Freemas…

http://www.comasonic.org/
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Talking about the Liberal Catholic Church, founded just over 100 years ago by people connected with the Theosophical Society.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZz3EYtD…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGljCCIu…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE40AjdV…


SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
I guess this 1920 work is the Leadbeater book they are talking about, about their magical approach to the sacraments.

The science of the sacraments / by Charles W. Leadbeater

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
St. Gabriel and All Angels Church
Fairfield Iowa, Liberal Catholic Church
http://www.thelccusa.org/parishes/iowa/f…

parish page, has video
http://www.stgabe.org/

Service of Consecration to the Episcopacy of the Right Reverend Thomas R. Miller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRqhHl-_…

Mercifully a very short and light sermon. Opposite of typical Roman Catholic Sunday Service, but still, not how I want to be spending Sunday Mornings, not when there are books to read and Viet Coffee Shops to read them at.

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Liberal Catholic Church, youtube playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE40AjdV…

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
So here with Richard Rohr's "Universal Christ". Some things I am taking exception to. but overall still a very important book. I feel that this book could be the antidote to the insanity which is the I AM A CHRISTIAN MOVEMENT.

So let me record a few things:

Rohr uses various Bible translations, including, NASB, New American Standard Bible
NET, New English Translation.

So Rohr talks of "A Rocking-Horse Catholic", autobiography of a 20th century English mystic, Caryll Houselander, and her description of mystical experience occurring while she was riding an underground train.

Rohr says that the revelation of the Risen Christ was clearly affirmed in Scripture, Colossians 1, Ephesians 1, John 1, and Hebrews 1.

References John Dominic Crossan, "Resurrecting Easter" 2018. Rohr says he delayed publication of his own book to b able to reference the materials in Crossan's book.

Resurrecting Easter: How the West Lost and the East Kept the Original Easter Vision
https://www.amazon.com/Resurrecting-East…

Resurrecting Easter : how the West lost and the East kept the original Easter vision / John Dominic Crossan and Sarah Sexton Crossan (2018)

And yes, just like it was with Huston Smith, Richard Rohr does seem to be endorsing the Eastern Orthodox, and how things were befoer 1054.

Rohr cites G. K. Chesterton, "Your religion is not the church you belong to, but the cosmos you live inside of."

page 17,

"Our faith became a competitive theology with various parochial theories of salvation, instead of a universal cosmology inside of which all can live with an inherent dignity."

I think responsible and knowledgeable people are finally starting to stand up the the Jesusolotry Industry.



I will drop back and read this 1993 book which comments on Rohr and his background and anthologizes his early writings.

Have in hand now, to finish up with, John Shelby Spong's "A New Christianity for a New World"

SJG

Grassroots - Greatest Hits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReOIV4RR…
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
Here also interesting, Paulist Press no offering an NRSV Bible. Not seen this before.

http://www.paulistpress.com/Products/476…

SJG
san_jose_guy
6 years ago
This could be good, most readily available too:

Christian gnosis / Charles W. Leadbeater ; edited with a foreword by Sten von Krusenstierna ; introduction and notes by Richard Smoley. (2011 for this Theosophical Society Edition )

SJG

Eve Ensler, Embrace Your Inner Girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhG1Bgbs…
san_jose_guy
5 years ago
san_jose_guy
5 years ago
Occult America - 1 of 3 - April 5, 2019
.

Ecclesia Gnostica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UKT7UII…

SJG
san_jose_guy
5 years ago
So I guess Ecclesia Gnostica does not maintain its own facility anymore, it uses the Besant Lodge.

The Gnostic Society
Besant Lodge: 2560 N. Beachwood Drive, Hollywood CA 90068

http://www.gnosis.org/gnostsoc/gnostsoc.…

SJG
san_jose_guy
5 years ago
Have in hand now, to finish up with, John Shelby Spong's "A New Christianity for a New World"

Christian Theism has to be, along with Libertarianism, the stupidest of ideologies around.

Will continue with above at a later date.


Got right now:

Richard Rohr : illuminations of his life and work / edited by Andreas Ebert and Patricia C. Brockman. (1993)

Need to appraise where this guy is coming from.

SJG
san_jose_guy
5 years ago
Richard Rohr : illuminations of his life and work / edited by Andreas Ebert and Patricia C. Brockman. (1993)

Matthew Fox, talks about his standard taxonomy: Via Positiva, Via Negative, Via Creativa, Via Transformativa.

Now it looks like by the age of 50 Richard Rohr had survived cancer.

Of German descent, grew up in Topeka, affiliated with a Franciscan run parish, became enamored with Francis. At age of 14 went to Cincinnati to study with the Franciscans. Returned to Topeka for ordination, then back to Cincinnati where he started this this New Jerusalem Community.

https://localwiki.org/cincinnati/New_Jer…

I hear of this and of course I think of the Brotherhood of the Common Life, a pre-Protestant reform movement, women and men who wanted to find holiness in the context of marriage and family.

And this is the sort of thing Francis would have wanted, and for the whole world to be a Lay Catholic Community.

Don't care much for Francis. Not really impressed by Richard Rohr.

I think really it comes down to the old debate between Irenaeus and Valentinious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irenaeus

Irenaeus was an anti-gnostic, as was Francis and as clearly is Richard Rohr. And Catholic Orthodoxy went that way.

I need to learn more about this.

Francis really pushed veneration of the Holy Family, and the use of manger scenes. They say he was combating the Bogomile and Cathar Gnostics.

I need to learn more about all of this. But I don't need to read more of this book about Rohr. I'll read more of his other stuff, just so that I understand the arguments.

Never read this, but I want to. Shows the bad side of cult leaders. But he also includes Francis of Assisi.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/New-Jerus…

SJG

Stephan Hoeller: Blavatsky and the Once and Future Gnosis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcNkoQXU…
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