haggling over VIP prices
roldes
Georgia
Do y'all haggle over VIP pricing? If so, how do you go about it?
I paid what I knew was too much for a VIP w/extras lately, but I was hesitant to haggle because I didn't want to give the dancer's already indifferent attitude toward me any reason to become worse. She was hot and was my pick in the club at the time, so I paid what she quoted and made the best of it.
What kind of advice would y'all give me?
I paid what I knew was too much for a VIP w/extras lately, but I was hesitant to haggle because I didn't want to give the dancer's already indifferent attitude toward me any reason to become worse. She was hot and was my pick in the club at the time, so I paid what she quoted and made the best of it.
What kind of advice would y'all give me?
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Just be careful . Some places have a set starting fee. 15 min. $150 and up. Some dancers can set their rates some can't. Just be clear about a price and what she is doing.
If she comes in at a reasonable place, no action needed. There is no upside to nickel and diming a girl.
If she comes in too high, then I'll counter with something more reasonable. Sometimes they accept it, sometimes they counter back, but rarely do they walk away unless I am being unreasonable in where I am holding firm - which almost never happens.
I've negotiated countless ITC and OTC events and disagree with gmd's notion that this results in inferior performance. A girl who starts with a pie in the sky number is usually taking a shot at a big score, but will often gladly take a more modest score if it is still a good number. In fact, I'd contend that my own experience improves when a girl clearly understands that I'm not a pushover and that she had better perform if she wishes to get paid.
Bear in mind that When I say I don’t haggle, what I mean is that I don’t do any kind of back and forth. If, when I say “no thanks”, she comes back with another, more acceptable, number, I’ll probably agree.
Likewise, if I’m the one making the initial offer, and she declines, I don’t come back with another. If she makes an acceptable counter, I might accept.
@OP I’d never get a single dance with some girl with an “indifferent attitude “ I’d pass immediately.
Great, a lawyer that hates negotiating. Just another example of why anyone that would hire you to represent them is an idiot.
Lesson- make sure what you are getting did not change when the price changed
I also rather make the offer than ask her, to avoid the back-and-forth from a possible initial sucker-price.
Extras are not my primary-thing when I SC; I partake more on the spur-of-the-PL-moment so not that hard for me to walk away from an uncomfortable exchange - I also mostly hit dives where it's often more of a buyer's market and I try to usually make a bit above fair-offer b/c am as opposed to low-balling a dancer as to over-paying - giving a bit-above fair-offer tends to lessen the back-and-forth - she's def free to pass on my fair-offer but depending on how she reacts to my fair-offer if she cops a bit of an attitude then than usually poisons-the-well where I'm not interested if she comes back and agrees to my price.
The girl had this amazed look and asked me how I knew XXXXXX was her sister.
I rather risk bad-performance at the going-rate than bad-performance at an over-paid rate (as long as one is not trying to low-ball her).
The way I see it, if the girl makes the first offer and you think it is too much, make a counter offer that is about 75-80% the most you are willing to spend. Chances are she will then respond to your counteroffer with a number that is really close to the most your willing to spend, and then a deal is made that is fair for both sides.
Sometimes they ask me what I want and how much I’m willing to spend. I give them a number that is 75-80% the most I am willing to spend. Often times they respond with a number just a little higher, and usually it matches the most I am willing to spend.
Of course, this does not work if the dancer quotes $500 and the most you are willing to spend is $150. If her first offer is more than double what you’re willing to spend, just politely decline and go look for a girl that will take less.
IME, girls do not give a subpar performance if a negotiation has to be made. Most of them are used to it and just want fair compensation.
I agree with the others here. If you haggle like you're buying halibut from a fish monger, you're going to get a shitty experience.
"... I was hesitant to haggle because I didn't want to give the dancer's already indifferent attitude toward me any reason to become worse."
Based on that description, you were heading for a lackluster experience regardless of haggling or price. But, hey, I've made the same mistake. The hottest dancer isn't always the best dancer.
As little as possible
Isn't my dick payment enough?
First, I think that, for some of you, your unwillingness to negotiate really stems more from discomfort than anything else.
Second, we're not all coming from the same place in terms of what we might "haggle" over.
If you're secure in what you do and confident that you have a firm handle on what is reasonable, then neither of these should be an issue. I'm not talking about quibbling over small differences. If I'm counter-offering, it's because she's at least $100 (and often more) over what's reasonable for a hot girl in her area and she likely knows it. I've never had a girl turn in a shitty performance because of a negotiation and I've lost count of how many of them I've conducted. I can only guess that some of you guys are either trying to squeeze them too much, which might indeed get negative results, or this is being used as an excuse to avoid personal discomfort - idk.
I'm honestly rather surprised by this thread. I for one am not inclined to rely upon some weird passive-aggressive approach to striking a deal. Now I have a pretty relaxed and kind way of going about this sort of thing and that probably helps, but I always assumed that working out a reasonable price with a girl was SC 101 stuff. I guess the more I learn, the less I know. ;)
SJG
san_jose_guy - commonly referred to as SJG this forum member is usually mocked or ignored, his comments should NOT be taken in any way as legitimate
There is a joke here about the small tip but who am I to say . . .
I normally don't haggle, like others, if it is too high I will say no thanks and see if she comes back at a more reasonable rate. Lately I have had some great luck with just the room rate and nothing more which makes me very very happy.