Are you men or pussies

Can't live by that old double standard there 25. If you want girls that are sexual dynamite, you have to accept that they did not get that way without practice.

SJG

I believe that in any relationship, people should be open and honest with each other and adhere to the golden rule of “treat others the way you want to be treated”

Monogamy is good. Open relationships are good. A healthy couple should openly discuss what is okay and not okay. Healthy relationship communication and all.

What’s not good is cheating, or trying to make a demand on another person you wouldn’t be willing to follow through with yourself, as if that person is a second class citizen to yourself.

In my case, I dance for now temporarily. My boyfriend has given me a deadline more or less. In return, he gets to go to strip clubs all he wants and I will never give him shit for it :)

I'm not going to make her do it but if she is happy receiving the attention and loves the sexual variations then sure she is a slut sell guess what so am I.... if we are both happy that is all that matters

That's some real mother fucking talk

I couldn't care less. Unless i found out they were actually smashing guys less attractive than me, then i would just drop them. But my girl A says she will give me priority compared to any regular itc. Even on my 3rd visit, she cut short a champagne room she was in, just to come be with me. Respect the job. Dont get jealous. Thats their job. =)

I am all for honesty sound great in practice, but here’s the truth of it, on the earlier thread Dadilac made an excellent point and it reminded me why I got so upset over it. Here on TUSCL most of us misogynist bastards, are more than willing to call it a guy that crosses a line into being abusive, but I don’t see the same willingness from the gals to give these abusive women (there are a few) the same shit. It seems like you girls think it’s more ok to be an abusive their than we do.

"What’s not good is cheating"

A huge portion of the guys on this site are cheating, and bragging about it.

I cheated, but I did not brag about it, ever. I did what I needed to do in order to stay sane, while I brought a long marriage to an end.

These guys go to strip clubs when what they need is either a Marriage Councilor or a Divorce Lawyer.

Ever found any dancing at strip clubs? I met one, Crystal, bit hair bit tits tall Latina bombshell. She laughed when she told me she was studying to become a Marriage Councilor.

We need to set up a fund, to send more of these girls to school. We need Marriage Councilors and Divorce Lawyers.

And the organization I am building will solve all of these problems at a much deeper level.

SJG

I tend to be old-school and conservative - I couldn't see myself having a relationship w/ a stripper - not necessarily b/c I look down on her for being a stripper, but more that I just wouldn't feel comfortable w/ her being in that line of work.

Having said this, I'd be ok having a relationship w/ an ex-stripper (as long as she had her shit-together),

I'll be honest. I could not handle the jealousy. If she did it in the past, that wouldn't matter. But I would not have a relationship with a girl that was still active as a stripper.

@25 I’m confused. What abuse are you talking about?

If you are what you eat, then you have the answer for me.

IF I were to get serious with a stripper I would want an OPEN relationship. the chance of me being faithful to one are at zero.

Its not a concern of mine. A gf stripping or whoring wouldn’t worry or concern me. Id be less concerned about a whore gf - than a stripper gf. But I wouldn’t care or feel threatened by either.

> I don’t see the same willingness from the gals to give these abusive women (there are a few) the same shit.

According to this guy's research, it's because the impulse to punish those who behave immorally is tied to high testosterone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFAdlU2E…

Best thing I did for my wife was to let her go... we both good friends and much happier now

And I honestly love my X wife....the mother of two of my kids and a friend since the third grade

Call me a hypocrite if you want, but I would not be okay with my Significant Other sexually satisfying someone else just the same as I am sure that my wife would object to me sexually satisfying another woman.

^^^ flag, just to be clear, a little reacharound doesn't count, right? Just a little reacharound between best bros, no harm no foul

Also, I couldn't handle it either, not at an extras club, but not even at a non-extras club.

LOL. Gotta make sure we have loopholes to exploit.

Knowing that she was grinding on guys all day would never bother me, but finding out that she is fucking around with another woman (customer or fellow dancer) would not be acceptable to me......unless I was invited to join in, of course.

I could not be seriously involved with someone who was dancing.... when I got serious with my last gf/stripper/whore we agreed she would quit dancing and I would make sure she was taken care of..... I'm ok with that.

@nicespice, where the abuse came in that 25 was talking about was I never knew she was escorting so obviously I did not stipulate that in asking her to quit dancing.... so for over a year that we dated according to her reviews on the erotic review she was banging anyone with 200 bucks an hour while hitting me up for 4 grand a week.

I think I misspoke earlier, either in this thread or the other.

I can't handle it isn't quite right.
I think it is more like I couldn't put up with it.

^ ouch - that's gonna leave a mark - but you're not the first nor will be the last guy to be deceived by a woman

Papi.... if you were dating her, maybe engaged to her, would you want me to tell you her past or j it st let you find out for yourself

^ tell me

I will tell you but I doubt that will happen.... I just wonder if I were to see her with someone I knew or even someone I did not know.... say they were a veteran, should I warn them

Btw papi.... I worked out some of my frustration with a Cuban that's only English was in VIP we suck and we fuck..... lol nice time today

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Hm, I wouldn’t consider lying as abuse persay...but I agree that that was really fucked up. And yeah she dumb.

^@nicespice What you asked me what I am talking about, what my point was is this, I’m able to handle the fact tha a gal used to strip, and if she wants me to care for her then the past remains there, going forward I have certain expectations and one of them is that I be the guy in her life, just like that.
In other words I demand certain things, and one of them is that other men aren’t part of our reality, does that clear up the confusion.

Lol nicespice, her lies cost me 250 thousand dollars, that is abusive. The next time some guy runs a game on you remind yourself that lies are not abusive

Daddillac - your story is a painful one. It sucks to be deceived like that - by someone you trust. The financial loss - and emotional pain - are brutal.

I now know what it means when you say others were Daddillac-ed.

Women are more abusive by lying and tricking men. Men are more physically abusive to women.

^ True Jack, but the point was we men as a group don’t think it’s ok to be abusing women, and the majority will denounce it, yet the women as a group are shamefully silent about the lies and deceitful ness that these women use to obtain money.

+1 twentyfive. I guess it was my initial response that got this conversation started but I also feel it needed to be stated.

It's real simple as far as I am concerned, if you are special to me your worth is more than $20 to grind on a guy.and it really is love as poledancer was talking about ( and not just a finesse job as the strippers I know like to call it) the woman wouldn't want to dance.

Part of the reason I am so against even listening to the attempts of my ex to get back together again as much as I like her is I know ( now) what she has been doing the past seven months and I also know it was her choices that put her in the situation she is in.

I couldn't put up with it myself, but far be it for me to judge the pussies that do.

Honestly hard for me to relate to this thread, I'm not like the rest of the PLs and pussies on here. I have an active social life, regularly date model quality civilian hotties (who tell me I look half my age, btw), am FWB with multiple 9+ strippers, and even have one 9+ stripper that pays me to have sex with her.

^^ yea me two. I’m just like two_bits except I live in a mansion on Venice beach and I have an 8-figure income.

^^^Don't patronize me, bro.

“I believe that in any relationship, people should be open and honest with each other and adhere to the golden rule of ‘treat others the way you want to be treated’”.

This. If you can’t handle it, don’t be in that type of relationship. Don’t lie about it. Don’t cheat. Just look for love elsewhere.