I'm in Vegas for a couple of days, and have a room on the Strip. I'm looking to spend maybe $300 - $500 on an encounter, and looking to get the best possible experience. Options seem to be: 1) Legal brothels in Pahrump; 2) Strip Clubs; 3) Escorts who advertise; 4) Girls you pick up in the hotel bar; 5) Other. Looking for advice.
Brothel prices are negotiable, but that budget is on the lower end of the range. Strip clubs in Vegas... probably not for that price point. Escort yes, but you’re usually dealing with an agency, and they are notorious for the up sell. Bar girls are easy to find but don’t expect top notch service, hide your valuables, and keep your head on a swivel. Also, they will upsell too.
Under no circumstances book an escort. Casino's are always a certainty for finding a girl, but you need to wait until at least 10pm. Forget Pahrump, waste of time.
I used Seeking Arrangement but if you are going to look in Casino's start at MGM for escorts.
Or go on Eros----I'd suggest P411 but you need to pay to be a member and I'm not sure if they still have a freeze on new memberships. If you go the Eros route look for girls that have their own website or their own Twitter page--stay away from agency girls ( you want the Indies)
For $500 I would pickup one or multiple hotel girls. As has been said, wait till late (after midnight is best), and around 2 AM seems to be "prime time". Most girls will not go from another hotel to yours though.
Hotel bar. club if you’re willing to shop around. I’d say go to a smaller club like dejavu or cheetahs and go late like londonguy said. Just don’t get an escort
Actuallly, the suggestion of Seeking Arrangement was perfect. I got on there and had a date lined up within a couple hours. Now I just hope she's not LE. Any good ways to tell?
Actually, looking at the convo, I'm suspecting my date may be LE. She wanted some info up front, and when I mentioned a number of roses, she came back with "Roses?". I replied with an explanation. Could that be a trap?
> "...Seeking Arrangement was perfect. .... Now I just hope she's not LE. Any good ways to tell?"
In Vegas, it's legal for you to invite a stranger up to your room and have her strip naked for you. Law Enforcement will never do this and an independent escort will understand why you're asking. So no compromising dialogue until she's naked in your hotel room.
It's pretty easy to find a casino whore, casino bars are a great spot, solo girls playing slots is a good sign (especially later in the night/morning), girls who wouldn't normally give you the time of day smiling at you is another sign. Happy hunting.
Always meet them first on the casino floor or at a bar. Never give them your room number.
If she agrees to do some "modeling" in your room and is willing to proceed with no other discussion, you're fine.
Once she's in your room, you're golden in terms of her being LE, hell probably once she gets on the elevator. The downside is you lose some negotiating power once she's in the room, imo.
1. Fuck Pahrump it's overpriced. More importantly do you really want to drive an hour in the desert only to find out the selection happens to be bad or just not what you want? That hour back will be extra shitty.
2. I like the Vegas strip clubs more than most on here but $3-500 likely won't get you OTC unless you are extremely lucky.
3. If you can find an Escort that is independent and, more importantly, has solid reviews from others then this is a good route to go. The problem, ime, is finding one that meets those criteria who isn't impossible to nail down.
4. The girls working the casinos late at night are a mixed bag. At least a 1/3rd are un-fuckable. Most of them are black. The truly hot ones (of any race) can also be a little harder to spot if you haven't done this before. There are also a lot of scammers among these pros. That said I've found some pleasant times among them, just keep your wits about you.
5. Don't dismiss the idea of getting it for free. Vegas is full of women, of all ages, cutting loose and looking to make bad decisions. More than once I've seen a guy buy a few drinks, make a little small talk and end up taking a chick 30-40 years his junior up to his room.
You'll find women who will come to your room in the Paris casino right there. Since you are staying at Paris, you can use the underground walkway to Bally's and circulate the Bally's casino (bars), too. I've even scored with women walking to/from he parking garage through the underground pathway. In either case, she will go with you to your Paris room without even having to leave the building. If you don't find anything of your liking at Paris or Bally's, Planet Hollywood, next door, is not too far for a woman to walk with you. I have had most success between 10 pm and 3 am.
When you locate a woman of your liking at any of the casino bars, a smile will usually be enough. Or, a simple "hi" will do. Otherwise, asking if she is having any luck will get the conversation going. If she is a civilian, she will respond very differently than if she is for hire (unless you are amazingly good looking).
When it comes to the offer, after small talk, I usually just ask "So, what do you need to come to my room at Paris and spend an hour with me?" I have never had a need to specify what I want. My offer is cash for time -- no laws broken -- she will appreciate your discretion. If she agrees to spend an hour for $$$, I've never encountered a situation where full service was not understood. If I ask for 30 minutes, it is generally understood that FS is NOT happening. I've never been upsold after getting to the room and always been satisfied.
Picking up casino women is the only sure thing in Vegas.
Not necessarily. I might say, "Everything, but of course I'm only paying you for your time."
Now, if I was on the strip between hotels, say on the sidewalk, conversing with a SW and she asked that I'd be a little sketched out. I would say "You know I can't answer that . . . the question is, would you like to see the inside of my room?" Any further questions from her would be the end of the conversation for me. Move on.
Haha. Difficult to say. I imagine your banter may have been just obscure enough that she didn't get it.
Since I am in a casino, my banter is more about my luck being awful, but perhaps things are looking up. How about you, been lucky yet tonight? Shit like that.
When I feel enough of a connection to close the deal, all I can say is that I've asked them how much it would take for them to spend an hour in my hotel room. Direct and to the point.
Good luck. Post something after and let us know how it goes, what you spent and were you satisfied.
What I mean was, the Daddy/Baby thing was after she asked what I wanted, and she was satisfied with the answer. Was that explicit enough to get me in trouble?
Also, wanted to repeat an earier question that didn't get answered. Another girl asked what I was interested in giving as a donation, and I quoted "### roses", whereupon she said "Roses?" and I said "roses = $$". Then she said she'd "be excited to be by my side and show me all the fun."
Is this safe dialogue or did I just incriminate myself?
Sorry, I know I'm sounding like a paranoid rube here. I don't have this problem where I'm from cuz I know the local scene, where we have virtually no hassle from LE. I'm just kind of freaked out cuz it's, you know, Vegas, and I've heard horror stories about guys getting busted.
Ohio and Vegas are two different worlds--actually I have yet to find an escort in Northeast Ohio I would want to spend time with for free and one of the reason I use SA when I am there.....although I use it in a very different manner than you do.
I've found in the few times I have been out in Vegas it's hard not to meet escorts in the bars and even when you are sitting there with a woman they will still make eye contact and still come up and say hello.
Lorien, you're fine, Vegas LE is more interested in stopping the girls, than the John's. Just don't be stupid about it and start propositioning everyone.
I hope he's alright last nite. For me it's depressing go looking for sex late at nite, 12-2am, I'd be so tired. Are they available during the day? Any young ones 18-22?
Update: Had a date with girl from SA paid 4$, went great.
In the evening scouted out the casino girls, great selection, lotsa possibilitiies. Plan to go for it tonight. One big question, and I'd really appreciate an answer before I pick up a casino girl: Do I pay her in advance, or after? What's standard?
I count it out as soon as I get to my room (since I don't know in advance what the amount will be). Then, I fan it out placing it on a counter or table as far away from the door as possible, saying nothing. Most are classy enough to leave it there until we finish. As long as you are between the cash and the door, she's not going to cash and dash. Never been a problem.
For 4 bills (unless you are at Bellagio) you are going to get the best of whatever you can find, you may even be overpaying. At Paris, 3 should do it. At Bally's, maybe even 2 or 2.5 will suffice.
We will look for your next update to see what you wound up paying and how it went. Bon chance!
Met a smoking hot girl at Paris. She asked 5, immediately came down to 3, and I agreed. She didn't try any funny stuff to rip me off. We got into it right away, and she had good skills. However, when I asked her to climb aboard and make it fs, she wanted the other 2. I said no, so I had to settle for a CCIM.
I gotta say, Vegas has more seriously hot women (both pro and civilian) per square foot than any other place I've ever been. The downside is it's Freaking Expensive! I easily paid 60-80% more here than I would at home. But hey, at least now I can say I Did Vegas.
Yeah, there has always been a direct correlation between the relative expense of your chosen hotel, the table minimums in their casino and what you will pay to play with their casino girls. The beauty is, Vegas has casino girls ranging from Walmart to Tiffany and everything in between. It would be an interesting business school study as to how the girls ultimately find their lane. Diamonds in the rough (aka -- low self esteem) don't last for long. Quickly, they have a remarkable ability to understand their correct price point.
I'd say she ripped you off if she tried to up-charge you for FS - when ones agrees to $X for P4P one assumes it's for FS not PS - now you know one needs to specify prices and services included
I'd like to thank everyone who contributed, especially pensionking and jester 214. You helped me have a memorable & safe time for my first visit to Vegas.
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Or go on Eros----I'd suggest P411 but you need to pay to be a member and I'm not sure if they still have a freeze on new memberships. If you go the Eros route look for girls that have their own website or their own Twitter page--stay away from agency girls ( you want the Indies)
Thanks for the help!
Actually, looking at the convo, I'm suspecting my date may be LE. She wanted some info up front, and when I mentioned a number of roses, she came back with "Roses?". I replied with an explanation. Could that be a trap?
In Vegas, it's legal for you to invite a stranger up to your room and have her strip naked for you. Law Enforcement will never do this and an independent escort will understand why you're asking. So no compromising dialogue until she's naked in your hotel room.
If she agrees to do some "modeling" in your room and is willing to proceed with no other discussion, you're fine.
Once she's in your room, you're golden in terms of her being LE, hell probably once she gets on the elevator. The downside is you lose some negotiating power once she's in the room, imo.
1. Fuck Pahrump it's overpriced. More importantly do you really want to drive an hour in the desert only to find out the selection happens to be bad or just not what you want? That hour back will be extra shitty.
2. I like the Vegas strip clubs more than most on here but $3-500 likely won't get you OTC unless you are extremely lucky.
3. If you can find an Escort that is independent and, more importantly, has solid reviews from others then this is a good route to go. The problem, ime, is finding one that meets those criteria who isn't impossible to nail down.
4. The girls working the casinos late at night are a mixed bag. At least a 1/3rd are un-fuckable. Most of them are black. The truly hot ones (of any race) can also be a little harder to spot if you haven't done this before. There are also a lot of scammers among these pros. That said I've found some pleasant times among them, just keep your wits about you.
5. Don't dismiss the idea of getting it for free. Vegas is full of women, of all ages, cutting loose and looking to make bad decisions. More than once I've seen a guy buy a few drinks, make a little small talk and end up taking a chick 30-40 years his junior up to his room.
When you locate a woman of your liking at any of the casino bars, a smile will usually be enough. Or, a simple "hi" will do. Otherwise, asking if she is having any luck will get the conversation going. If she is a civilian, she will respond very differently than if she is for hire (unless you are amazingly good looking).
When it comes to the offer, after small talk, I usually just ask "So, what do you need to come to my room at Paris and spend an hour with me?" I have never had a need to specify what I want. My offer is cash for time -- no laws broken -- she will appreciate your discretion. If she agrees to spend an hour for $$$, I've never encountered a situation where full service was not understood. If I ask for 30 minutes, it is generally understood that FS is NOT happening. I've never been upsold after getting to the room and always been satisfied.
Picking up casino women is the only sure thing in Vegas.
Now, if I was on the strip between hotels, say on the sidewalk, conversing with a SW and she asked that I'd be a little sketched out. I would say "You know I can't answer that . . . the question is, would you like to see the inside of my room?" Any further questions from her would be the end of the conversation for me. Move on.
Since I am in a casino, my banter is more about my luck being awful, but perhaps things are looking up. How about you, been lucky yet tonight? Shit like that.
When I feel enough of a connection to close the deal, all I can say is that I've asked them how much it would take for them to spend an hour in my hotel room. Direct and to the point.
Good luck. Post something after and let us know how it goes, what you spent and were you satisfied.
Is this safe dialogue or did I just incriminate myself?
I've found in the few times I have been out in Vegas it's hard not to meet escorts in the bars and even when you are sitting there with a woman they will still make eye contact and still come up and say hello.
In the evening scouted out the casino girls, great selection, lotsa possibilitiies. Plan to go for it tonight. One big question, and I'd really appreciate an answer before I pick up a casino girl: Do I pay her in advance, or after? What's standard?
Do not hand it to her and do not mention it.
For 4 bills (unless you are at Bellagio) you are going to get the best of whatever you can find, you may even be overpaying. At Paris, 3 should do it. At Bally's, maybe even 2 or 2.5 will suffice.
We will look for your next update to see what you wound up paying and how it went. Bon chance!
I gotta say, Vegas has more seriously hot women (both pro and civilian) per square foot than any other place I've ever been. The downside is it's Freaking Expensive! I easily paid 60-80% more here than I would at home. But hey, at least now I can say I Did Vegas.
Yeah, there has always been a direct correlation between the relative expense of your chosen hotel, the table minimums in their casino and what you will pay to play with their casino girls. The beauty is, Vegas has casino girls ranging from Walmart to Tiffany and everything in between. It would be an interesting business school study as to how the girls ultimately find their lane. Diamonds in the rough (aka -- low self esteem) don't last for long. Quickly, they have a remarkable ability to understand their correct price point.
Good times.