Economics and adult entertainment...
poledancer83
Narnia
Desperation breads invitive ways to make money IE adult entertainment. The point of this is to consider the importance of our leaders and the decisions they make. More and more towns and states are becoming poorer and restricting the club and dancers ability to make money. Restrictions of alcohol sales, contact dances and increased regulation of dancers and clubs causes a lack of ability to make a solid income. Conversly some laws meant to protect dancers actually turns them to the darker side of illicit "entertainment" to supplement the income they have lost. A prime example of over regulation leading to increased problems much bigger than those the original bill was meant to solve. So how can the entertainment industry more specifically the club scene be saved? Fight to support the dancers. Not regulate but support. Protect the clubs from unneccesary regulations as well. Consenting adults that come to work and visit a club do so with and understanding that it is a highly sexual environment. If i know my customers cant drink inside the club or i cant take all of my clothes off i know that im not going to make the kinda money that i once did. This hurts the community because less clubs and less revenue equal less tax profits but it also hurts me and the industry. Elect leaders that are motivated to protect women and their rights. An of age woman that wants to make her money working in an office building should have the same protections as one making her living in the pornography or stripping business. The more the men and women that utilize the services of the adult entertainment industry look out for the industries well being the more longevity it will have overall. I long for the day when adult entertainment is looked at on the same field as other jobs and careers and while it probably never will it doesnt mean we cant fight for equal protections.
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In other words, if I’m not bothering you mind your own fucking business.
And statists smile and nod at the excuse to justify getting more power to control the internet as they see fit.
And I agree “no one grows up wanting to” is a stupid argument from them. Children generally don’t grow up wanting to be anything that’s not an astronaut/president/veterinarian/teacher/a couple other jobs. I haven’t heard a child say “investment banker” for example.
When politicians decide to protect folks by removing sexual freedoms - we lose.
In my view - we need less regulation of sex work. I think prostitution should be legal - as it is a legitimate form of commerce. Obviously it should only involve consenting adults.
You'd lose that bet. If you had spent a lot of time in the clubs in the mid to late 90s and during the mid-2000s, you'd understand that clubs were drawing more girls and had the ability to staff with hotter talent, not less. The same thing has actually been happening over the last few months in my local area, which is experiencing both population influx and an economic resurgence.
The reason for this is simple. Strip clubs are fueled completely by discretionary income, which means that the girls who work in them make a lot more during good times than they do during bad. It is when club spending drops off a cliff that they start wondering if taking off their clothes for money is worth it. This is especially true for girls with modest job skills. An extra few bucks per hour, one way or another, is not likely to change whether she chooses to take a vanilla job over dancing or vice versa. A difference of a few hundred per shift one way or another, however, is much more potent.
The ultimate issue is not really whether strip clubs pay more than vanilla jobs. Even in slow periods, there are plenty of girls who can make more in clubs than they can in low skill vanilla jobs. The question is whether they can make enough money in clubs to overcome their aversion to taking their clothes off and giving contact for money and the pendulum swings much more favorably to strip clubs during boom times.
Now yes, there are some guys around here who are complaining that there clubs are still dying and/or talent is getting worse. I would bet that these people live predominantly in areas with population and/or shifting of higher income residents to others states. CT is one example of a state where the strip clubs are becoming worse, where even a place like Beamers (Stamford) is a shadow if its former self. Over the last few years, companies and high income residents have been leaving the state in droves for better situations elsewhere. There are several other states where this is happening too, including MI, IL, NJ and others. Conversely, right now many parts of FL, TX, AZ, and others are experiencing much different phenomena.
The problem with strip clubs is they don't do a good enough job at making sure pimps stay for the most part.
But yes theoretically, in a situation of consenting adults there shouldn't be as much regulation. But I would argue the stripper age should be raised to 21 across the country. If you're too young to drink you're too young to strip.
1) What's wrong with aspiring to have quality possessions instead of all-cheap-everything? Why the fuck would I want to be a janitor when I can make thousands a week stripping?
2) High end luxury bags are certainly NOT worthless. If you take care of your bag, the same Chanel bag you bought for just over a grand in the 90s could be sold for triple that amount today. Buy a Chanel bag for $4,000 today, and in 10 years it might be worth almost double that. Same for the Hermès Birkin. While you'll have to pay almost 15K for one, they only increase in value over time. Since buying stocks, gold, etc is a gamble - because the worth fluctuates - these iconic brands' worth only increases, therefore it is only a stupid purchase if you cannot financially support the purchase.
3) What is "worthless" to you is not worthless to everyone. A nice car is a nice car (while I can understand how stupid buying brand new can be because of depreciation simply from driving it off the lot). If someone has the means to buy the car that they want, and it happens to be a luxury vehicle, loaded SUV, or fancy sports car, good for them.
Also, don't take offense, but I think you have a slightly naive view of public policy. For starters, everyone has a different opinion about what's best for women (and for men, children, etc.).
But more importantly, we have a unitary head of state and a single representative in each Federal district, which means you can only choose one person for each seat. So what should you do when a candidate agrees with you on one issue but not on another? You're forced to prioritize. You always have to compromise your values whenever you vote. You have to decide what's most important to you, and what's less important. And even if you do all your homework and make all the necessary compromises, you're still left with the reality that your individual vote has almost no power to change the outcome.
Porn is largely free now. There are many sites offering enough free content - that paying for it seems odd now.
Strip clubs can be expensive. But if dancers could fuck customers - since prostitution would be legal - then the lines between dancers and prostitutes would blur.
If clubs posted prices for sex acts - then the main variable would be tipping for better service. So there would be less mystery about who does what - and less mystery about who charges what.
I’m just trying to see if this has an merit - or if it’s just my bizarre thoughts.
The taboo of stripping and the illegality of extras is why strippers can command such high prices for what they do. Without the taboo, then the average stripper would face a lot more competition from younger, hotter women, and would be forced to drop prices to keep getting paid anything at all.
We're seeing some of that happening already with Seeking Arrangement. It's the Uberization of the sex industry.
I agree with this.
Sadly JohnSmith would feel some pain if that happened.
I agree, and I'm not saying she's wrong. I'm just saying that "vote for people who promise to leave women alone" is too simplistic an answer. What if the candidate is bad in other ways?
Not if it's heavily regulated. See northern Nevada, for example.
Also, if youre as sweet, hot and charming as you say you are, you should not have a problem finding a man that will pay your rent and buy you shoes and purses. but hey keep grinding away.
And what on earth makes you think I haven't already had guys who buy me shoes and handbags? Just because I don't make a post every time I get a new one? I have a rule on that, too. I won't spend more than $2500 on a bag or a pair of shoes. If I get one that is over that amount I spent someone else's money or was given a gift. I don't have an arrangement with a dude to pay my rent each month, I pay my own, but I've gotten moneygrams and Western Unions in the past for my rent amount from regulars several times.
At this point I'm more interested in a man who can buy me cars and condos/houses than just bags and shoes. We can throw in Rolexes, too, because I don't want to pay 6k or 30k for my own watch. Same for Cartier bracelets and $5K Versace jackets.
Japan is going through a weird cultural change where their sex industry is focusing less on contact, by consumer demand:
https://www.economist.com/asia/2018/04/0…
In Australia, there was a stripper there who works in a club where dancers openly speak about extras, who charge more than the working full service females in the brothel nearby. And also in that same club there are non-extras dancers who still make money too.
At first I suspected that if legalized, the US would be similar to Australia. However, if the white population keeps shrinking, then maybe not. Hmm
Maybe if Nicole1994 gets that cabana with me, we could write a thesis on how culture affects the demand of what type of sex work is offered. I kinda want to do research too.
@salty nuts How budget minded are you?
@gaca Many clubs already have this policy cause they don’t wanna deal with underage drinking liabilities. But not all
So I’m just going to dig on salty. See if there’s a 40k truck purchase or a huge home entertainment system. Certainly he buys dancer services or why else would he be here :p
You always ninja me ya fucker;)
i dont think dancers are materalistic but ALL women are like that. its not a dig, but your true nature as women. i like gold diggers, and strippers. so do strippers like customers with or without money? geeze very sensitive around here
I think that the economy is the thing that almost drives the SC industry and both helps and hurts it. When the economy is good and more people have a little more disposable income they have obviously have more money to spend in the clubs. In turn the dancers have more money to spend and it goes right back into the economy. When money is short and times are a little harder people cut back in spending but also still need that escape. They need to go out once in a while and still blow off steam ( don't we go to SC to blow off steam and forget about life for awhile ?) Therefore we might not go as often but we still go out,we still spend some money . The dancers Wii still have to spend money . Going to the SC is a great way to stimulate the local economy.
As far as passing more law that hurts the adult industry I'm not really sure who wins from that. I do understand they are trying to cut down on human trafficking bla bla, but I'm guessing that more of those girls are sold into prostitution more than stripping. I'm not sure who wins.
Make a woman barefoot and pregnant with extra free time and she will better be able to anticipate the extramarital activity and proceed to blow the would be mistress funds on a six pack pool boy stud. And a handbag.
Flipped on its head: Guys go into strip clubs because their desire to get their naughty bits rubbed is insatiable. PLs could easily fuck less attractive women if they'd just go to the gym, learn some social graces, and practice a little hygiene, but they choose not to.
Everyone in a strip club is (to some degree) lazy and greedy simultaneously. It's only the motives that change. Anyone who pays women to touch their dick shouldn't lecture or criticize anyone else about the decency or value of their motives.
i was not taking a dig at strippers but yall are sensitive. only labeling womans nature. and CIM you accurately labeled a mans