To elaborate, a guy learns by jr. high school time that the women held up as sex symbols, like fashion models, playboy centerfolds, movie actresses, are out of his social range.
So would this also apply to the dancers in a GoGo Bar like Sunnyvale's Brass Rail?
Only one way to find out.
So as is the custom I offered to buy a girl a drink and she sat with me. I suggested that we might go out sometime.
She said, "*I don't go out with customers*".
Feeling that my honor had been challenged, I just talked about myself a bit in a matter of fact and unrehearsed way. Finally I just wrote my name and phone number on a napkin and handed it to her. Seeing that I was treating her in a totally civilian manner, she became almost apologetic.
Next day I worked late, came home about 10pm, forgetting about the matter entirely, and saw that there was one message on my old fashioned mechanical answering machine. So I pressed the button, and there it was, her voice,
"I want to see you."
So I learned right then that so long as you approach them in a 100% civilian matter that most of these awesome hotties that are being held up as sex symbols are in fact very available, engageable, and dateable women.
They get lots of P4P offers, but what they really want is not that.
My first ever SC visit I wasn't 21 and it was either in Mexico or my hometown. At the time I was pretty much fresh out high school and in my first couple of years active duty Army. The Mexico visit I don't think they cared too much and this was in Nogales with a couple of Army buddies who were of age. My visit in MS was during my brother in law's bachelor party. I showed my military ID and my homeboy talked up how I was serving in the Army, been deployed and all so we luckily got in.
Beyond those I didn't start going regularly until I began going through a divorce. That was about age 27 or 28. At the beginning of it I'd be in the SC 6 - 10 times a month. As one can imagine with no real budget, thinking every stripper really liked me, and gambling too funds dwindled. Now I'm on the rebound and go 1 - 3 times a month now.
17, at a seedy Detroit club that didn't check IDs as long as you were reasonably close to drinking age (21). It was the first time I ever saw a woman's breasts, other than porn mags. One of the strippers who gave my buddy a lap dance offered to blow him in the bathroom for $20. (Unfortunately, we were broke high school kids who could barely afford the $2 beers).
Starting going to clubs in Windsor, Canada, at age 19 (the drinking age in Canada at the time) with my buddies.Will never forget the first time we went, when the women got completely naked and spread their legs on stage. We thought it was only topless, had no idea they were completely nude in Windsor. I can't recall, but it's safe to assume I rubbed out a load after that first experience there. And there would be plenty of return visits.
Unfortunately, both of those clubs have been closed for some time.
Damn, this really takes me down memory lane. Fun times as kids, little money to spend but no fucking responsibilities or the daily pressures I'm dealing with now, some 35 years later.
i’m 68. i went to a couple strip clubs as a total newbie when i first transferred to phoenix and my family had not yet moved from northern arizona. never did vip then. just a few lap dances at the most.
fast forward to late 2011 when my wife and i split up at 32 years of wedded bliss. we were living part time in ventura calif then and i left her to return to northern arizona at night. driving across the mojave desert i saw the far distant glow of las vegas in the dark night and detoured up to there. went to sherries cabaret (near treasures) and did my first vip with a very beautiful cherokee and black mix new dancer that just turned 18. i was hooked. and i’ve had thousands of dances since. and lost interest in anything else.
For some, it may not be so much at which age they started going to clubs regularly, but at which point in life they had the income to do so. Marital status also factors into the equation. For me it was both. I went occasionally until my income supported my "habit." I was an occasional customer from age 18. Then became a frequent customer in my early 40's (much improved income level then). More frequent after my marital status changed 12 years later.
Probably 27 or 28. I never visited before being convinced by my then boss at work to go with him.
I'm not exactly routinely visiting in the past year. Now I'm very busy working most days.
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So would this also apply to the dancers in a GoGo Bar like Sunnyvale's Brass Rail?
Only one way to find out.
So as is the custom I offered to buy a girl a drink and she sat with me. I suggested that we might go out sometime.
She said, "*I don't go out with customers*".
Feeling that my honor had been challenged, I just talked about myself a bit in a matter of fact and unrehearsed way. Finally I just wrote my name and phone number on a napkin and handed it to her. Seeing that I was treating her in a totally civilian manner, she became almost apologetic.
Next day I worked late, came home about 10pm, forgetting about the matter entirely, and saw that there was one message on my old fashioned mechanical answering machine. So I pressed the button, and there it was, her voice,
"I want to see you."
So I learned right then that so long as you approach them in a 100% civilian matter that most of these awesome hotties that are being held up as sex symbols are in fact very available, engageable, and dateable women.
They get lots of P4P offers, but what they really want is not that.
SJG
Blazing Star OTO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amUKJ20o…
Beyond those I didn't start going regularly until I began going through a divorce. That was about age 27 or 28. At the beginning of it I'd be in the SC 6 - 10 times a month. As one can imagine with no real budget, thinking every stripper really liked me, and gambling too funds dwindled. Now I'm on the rebound and go 1 - 3 times a month now.
Starting going to clubs in Windsor, Canada, at age 19 (the drinking age in Canada at the time) with my buddies.Will never forget the first time we went, when the women got completely naked and spread their legs on stage. We thought it was only topless, had no idea they were completely nude in Windsor. I can't recall, but it's safe to assume I rubbed out a load after that first experience there. And there would be plenty of return visits.
Unfortunately, both of those clubs have been closed for some time.
Damn, this really takes me down memory lane. Fun times as kids, little money to spend but no fucking responsibilities or the daily pressures I'm dealing with now, some 35 years later.
fast forward to late 2011 when my wife and i split up at 32 years of wedded bliss. we were living part time in ventura calif then and i left her to return to northern arizona at night. driving across the mojave desert i saw the far distant glow of las vegas in the dark night and detoured up to there. went to sherries cabaret (near treasures) and did my first vip with a very beautiful cherokee and black mix new dancer that just turned 18. i was hooked. and i’ve had thousands of dances since. and lost interest in anything else.
I'm not exactly routinely visiting in the past year. Now I'm very busy working most days.
Funny how things work. I used to work and visited clubs fairly regularly. I retired and have been twice in the last two years. :(
Though I really have never, ever gone what Tuscl would consider REGULARLY. I average 1-3 visits per year.