Married mother-of-one teacher, 32, is sentenced to just a year in prison after she is found guilty of having sex with a student, 14, in her classroom on the last day of school
"According to the boy, he and Langford went on to engage in multiple sex acts, including intercourse and oral sex, for 20-30 minutes until the school principal knocked on the door of the locked classroom."
Interesting how TUSCL reacts to a 14 year-old boy being involved in statutory rape versus a 14 year-old girl (specifically in the case of VinceMichaels).
And it's not just this story, but also similar stories that have been posted here in the past.
For what it's worth, I think what VM did was abhorrent, and I feel the same way about this teacher. And I'm sure his parents are rightfully enraged.
Quit being such a party pooper
I'm not down with adults having sex with children.
Full stop.
I bet the kid was traumatized--by being high fived!
As South Park puts it, "Nice."
Lucky? Perhaps, but she is downright ugly. I bet he'd feel a lot luckier if she was a bit prettier.
What's also interesting is how these teachers don't realize that 13-16 year old boys are going to run their mouths about what happened. Seriously now, what do they think the end result is going to be when they have sex with teen students?
Ishmael - you bring up an important point. It’s a double standard - or whatever it’s called - but it’s still statutory rape. The boy was too young to legally consent - and the teacher took advantage of that fact.
I recently read that NJ struck down a law to prevent underage marriages - due to religious concerns - and it surprised me. Crazy shit!
@Ish. I do agree with you.
The only articles I see are concerning female teachers and male students. I may have seen one about a female/female occurance.
A male adult taking advantage of anew underage child is a little worse in my opinion because of the increased physical intimidation factor.
What was unique about the incident you specifically cited to the 14-yr-old girl? I think you mentioned it was committed by some guy named Vince? Is he some kind of celebrity douchebag like R. Kelly?
Flagoneer - The article doesn’t state whether the female teacher intimidated the boy into performing. It’s possible her position of authority created intimidation as well?
I would think an experience like that would be positive experience to the vast number of underage boys. A trophy and something to brag about. The law has to be reciprocal -- but I doubt very much I would press charges as the parent of teenage boy.
High fives
When one of the most liberal guys on TUSCL approves is all good.
A 14 year-old boy can be just as vulnerable, just as susceptible to adult pressures, and just as much an emotional mess as a 14 year-old girl. And parents expect this woman to look after their kids, not fuck them.
I suspect a lot of guys on here read these stories and see it in terms of a time-worn porn scene where a 35 year-old "teen" in a fake letter jacket bones his 23 year-old history teacher (who happens to have tits like blimps and tattoos from chin to ankle).
It's not that. It's criminal, and for good reason.
Also... I'm against adults fucking children. Full stop.
Ishmael speaking all the truth
Applying this whole hi five narrative to a barely pubescent 14 year old boy is just as ridiculous as saying its ok to fuck a 14 year old girl. I have a kid not much younger than this one was and she is still a child.
The guys who think that this is ok are no doubt predominantly childless, which shows that Natural Selection is a real thing. And the ones that do have children and are still ok with this...I won't even go further with that. Sadly, a site like this is bound to attract more of these fucked up dudes with Lolita fantasies. Shit, they even meet up and no doubt re-live their glory days with each other.
I hope this chick goes away for a long time. As a teacher, she of all people should know how vulnerable and confused 8th graders are, yet she took advantage of her position of authority to put this kid in an impossible and no doubt confusing position.
^^^ What’s interesting is, I think some people on this board may be able to view this kind of situation in the same way that I do, which is precisely: it is both good and bad, both moral and immoral (or neither if that’s your personality) it just depends on your point of view. Sure, if we look at this through the subjective lens of “socially acceptability,” then we see it as immoral. But if we take off those glasses and look at it through an objective lens of “nature” then it simply is what it is.
Let’s not forget that in some places and times in history, it was socially acceptable, if not socially praised, to perform human sacrifices, to own another human, to beat your children, to live with your parents forever, to accept livestock as a dowry, to take a shit in the woods instead of in a special seat called a “toilet,” etc. the point is social acceptability is, IMO, overrated.
You know @Dugan, you obnoxious dipshit, the difference between the two of us is that talking about my family on a site like this is off limits. That and the fact that I can afford to my families health insurance.
I doubt very much that an experience like this would traumatize a 14-yr-old boy. The law's there to prosecute if that's what the parents want.
family's*
I don’t think it’s right, but as a parent, I wouldn’t put my child through the process of prosecuting. Not bc I don’t see it as criminal, but bc I think the trauma of court and publicity, would be worse than the actual crime. I realize that would leave the offender in the public, and I’d feel bad ab that.
Whereas I believe that a 14 year-old boy has as much potential to be traumatized by statutory rape as a 14 year-old girl. Again, I think that a lot of you view this as as something akin to a porn scene or a Porkie's sequel.
It's not that. It's an adult fucking a child. I'm always going to fall on the side of that being an abhorrent act.
Ishmael, what kind of razor blades do you use when you have sex? Do you go with the classic Gillette brand or do you use some generic razors?
Every guy on this site would have given six months worth of lunch money to have sex with a marginally attractive and fairly young female teacher. It would have been one of the highlights of our young teen lives. It shouldn’t be considered rape if it fulfills the “victim’s” fantasies.
JS69 said "It shouldn’t be considered rape if it fulfills the 'victim’s' fantasies."
Would you still hold to that belief if the 14 year-old in question is a girl?
Ishmael, can anybody claim this hypothetical 14 yr old girl as property, and does she have the ability to consent to sex?
This isn't about a single hypothetical 14 year-old girl. This is me saying that adults having sex with children is horrible, regardless of the gender of the child or the adult. Again, it's a criminal act, and for good reason.
And anyone who wants to give me shit for being 100% against pedophilia in any form can pile on as hard as you want. I'll consider it flattery.
Also, it's nice when creepy people self identify.
Taking advantage of anyone to have sex is abhorrent. I understand that it's the only way that SJG and Fishsticks can have sex. In their cases, they should stick to masturbating.
^ excellent point.
@flagooner... You are correct.
" I think you mentioned it was committed by some guy named Vince? Is he some kind of celebrity douchebag like R. Kelly?"
No doubt you have the douchebag part correct.
There is a movie about this topic.
"Every guy on this site would have given six months worth of lunch money to have sex with a marginally attractive and fairly young female teacher."
Not every 14 year old will grow up to be a guy on this site.
I'm also fairly certain that having some of my masturbatory fantasies filled at age 14 probably wouldn't have been all that healthy even though I certainly wanted them to be.
Never fuck a child; not only is it traumatic for them on some level, they can't keep secrets.
As I've gotten older, so have my g/f's. I'd rather have a hot 40 year old who knows how to fuck and understands my jokes than some beautiful but underage girl who knows nothing of my universe, and will accuse me of rape sooner or later.
Same for boys...if I had a teacher fuck me when I was 14 it would have messed me up even worse than I am.
I'm glad that I'm not entirely alone on this one.
Some of you guys love the view from the moral high ground.
This assumption that:
a) if the 2 had sex she obviously coerced him
b) that every 14 y/o is the same, they're not
A 14 y/o can def say no if he wants - when I was 14 if a man asked to have sex with me that was not gonna happen, if a woman wanted to have sex with me I would either strongly consider it or say yes and feel like I scored not that I was taken advantage of
I don't regard 'not having sex with children' as staking out the moral high ground...
You'd think that it would be the lowest common denominator for all, even on a strip club website.
I never met a guy that was "traumatised" from having sex w/ women as a young teen - every time they seem to gloat about it when they speak of it.
What's the legal age for an adult to have sex with someone else?
Let's say it's 18 - so if an adult has sex with an 18 y/o the 18 y/o is an adult but if he/she is 17&1/2 she's a child and the adult is a rapist even if it's consensual?
"a) if the 2 had sex she obviously coerced him"
I never made that assumption. My only assumption is that she had sex with a child. Coercion or not, that's horrible and criminal.
"b) that every 14 y/o is the same, they're not"
You are correct. The assumption by many here is that every early-mid teen boy who has sex with his teacher will regard it as a "high five". That's not true. For a lot of teen boys it can easily be a traumatizing event.
Tie as many bows on it as you like, it's sex with a child, which is repugnant.
Men and women are equal but they are not the same, including when it comes to sex.
e.g. the vast majority of those that pay for sex are men, no matter how you slice it - if sex was the same for both men and women then one should extrapolate there should be as many male strip clubs as female strip clubs and obviously it's not even close.
"I never met a guy that was 'traumatised' from having sex w/ women as a young teen - every time they seem to gloat about it when they speak of it."
errrrr... Do you actually expect the guys who had a traumatizing experience to talk about it as freely as those who don't? You're making assumptions about a total population without know the actual denominator in that fraction.
@ Ish
How many guys you've met that had sex at an early age that were traumatised about it - IME they always seem to reminisce about it (as long as it was not a forced thing) .
When I was 14 and saw a sexy grown woman my biggest problem was worrying my automatic erection would show
@ Ish
You are also making blanket assumptions
"Let's say it's 18 - so if an adult has sex with an 18 y/o the 18 y/o is an adult but if he/she is 17&1/2 she's a child and the adult is a rapist even if it's consensual?"
This is the "Age... it's just a number!" argument that you'll typically see peddled by guys who want to have sex with early and mid teen girls.
Sex under certain conditions can be traumatizing regardless of age, but as a society it has been decided that 18 is the age at which people can start to exercise autonomy over their sexual interactions. Is it perfect? No. But it's a helluva lot better and more protective of youth than letting it be a free-for-all.
Also, this isn't a 17 year-old. It's a 14 year-old, which I view as clearly not an adult, but rather a child.
No moral high ground.
Some kids are more mature than others and can handle it. However, adults should be more responsible and not put the child in that position. There is no way that the adult would know if the child had the maturity.
I think this is quite a bit more egregious than what Harvey Weinstein is accused of and he is getting raked over the coals.
I think most of us including the "high-five" crowd would agree a 32 yo should not be having sex with a 14 yo or that 14 yo/s should be having sex period - it's just the way some on here start puffing out their chests about "how moral they are" and at relentlessly jumping on a member (eg vincemichaels) that is off-putting.
"You hypocrite! First remove the plank out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly ti remove the soeck out of yor brother's eye"
A specific discussion can be had on the subject, but this was obviously a thread in gest butbthe miral high-grounders will immediately pouce to t everyone know "how outraged they are"
Also, use of the word “child” is ambiguous without any context or supplementary explanation of its use.
I don't think that I'm a moral paragon. I mean... I'm here.
Despite that, I can be against adults having sex with children. My first post on this thread was me positing that while VM's admitted transgressions with a 14 year-old girl were greeted largely with outrage (or, at least strong distaste), when it's a 14 year-old boy there's a lot more lols and "what a lucky kid!"
I believe that both are equally horrible. And I know that both are equally criminal.
@Papi I agree these dumbasses blow what was intended to be a lighthearted comical thread, into a supposedly teachable moment, it just shows how incredibly stupid, and completely tone deaf they are. IMHO the stupidest moron here is RickiBoi, Random members name for him is especially appropriate I think we should refer to him as Dipshit One.
I know that the posting of these articles is meant to be for levity sake. When I see them I usually snicker and smh. Mary Kay Letourneau is a running joke.
I don't think any of us believe that it is okay to use a position of power to manipulate someone into pleasuring them sexually.
For me it is a dichotomy. The fact that it happens so regularly is darkly humorous, but the longlasting impact on the victim is often tragic.
^Actually humor done correctly does more to dissuade those that would actually commit vile acts, from posting their shit here than all of the pile ons that have occurred here in recent memory.
We all have had different life-experiences that will often color our view on a particular topic.
Anyone that has personally been affected by a non-consensual sexual-encounter as a child/youth, whether directly or indirectly, would understandably feel a different way about the story in the OP.
Happened to at least 2 dudes I know-- sexing older female teachers when they were younger. Interesting to hear these 2 dudes discuss the whole thing once they were older/adult men. It may need to be shown more: candid convos from those young victims once they become adults
There is one person that I know of who speaks openly about his sex life, and that’s because he is a Dating coach for men. He goes by the name “David X.” He’s an ugly fat fucker, but there are recordings of his seminars on YouTube. In one of those seminars he admits that his first sexual experience was at the age of 13, and if it had occurred in the modern day then it probably would have been in the newspaper. But, he thanks God that it happened. He had so much sex during his life that he likes to joke that he didn’t realize that women’s ears were for hearing until he was 35 years old, because he thought they were handles. Apparently he almost always had a harem of women that he fucked on a regular basis.
Every 14 yo guy’s dream cum true.