Sugaring per SW
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
"... I just broke it off with my best customer after a year of spending every Friday together at the club. The money was great- if I had been more wise I could've easily bought a mid-tier Lexus. *sigh* live and you learn.
Now that I'm back to hustling, I remember just how much I hate small talk and lap hoping. Spoiled maybe?? Idk. But I've started to think being a sugar baby would be a better fit for me. I love connecting with just one person and offering them everything they could possibly want emotionally (praise, admiration, handmade gifts).
I got an account on seeking arrangements to see what the hubbub was about. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I now feel like the whole sugar relationship thing is just escorting... CHEAP escorting. I'm a little confused why these girls dont just become dancers if they're charging 200 for the whole shbang. At my club, $500 shifts are super average, no extras needed. It also seems like a big waste with the first meet nearly guaranteed to be unpaid and a ton of time used texting, sending photos, creating a profile, and crossing your fingers that you'll be "chosen." Not to mention the safety issues and men who dont follow through with payment.
I really hope I'm missing something here; why is SA so friggin popular? Have any of you had good experiences and can vouch for the site/ sugar experience?? ..."
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showth…
Now that I'm back to hustling, I remember just how much I hate small talk and lap hoping. Spoiled maybe?? Idk. But I've started to think being a sugar baby would be a better fit for me. I love connecting with just one person and offering them everything they could possibly want emotionally (praise, admiration, handmade gifts).
I got an account on seeking arrangements to see what the hubbub was about. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I now feel like the whole sugar relationship thing is just escorting... CHEAP escorting. I'm a little confused why these girls dont just become dancers if they're charging 200 for the whole shbang. At my club, $500 shifts are super average, no extras needed. It also seems like a big waste with the first meet nearly guaranteed to be unpaid and a ton of time used texting, sending photos, creating a profile, and crossing your fingers that you'll be "chosen." Not to mention the safety issues and men who dont follow through with payment.
I really hope I'm missing something here; why is SA so friggin popular? Have any of you had good experiences and can vouch for the site/ sugar experience?? ..."
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showth…
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"... That's what SA is - desperate, naive girls and cheap johns. No sane man would show his face on that site, and lots of the men on there make $100,000 a year and can't afford to be sugar daddies. Who are they going to spoil on that salary? A chihuahua? Your best bet is to learn to network and connect with the wealthy in real life be it through traveling, education, memberships (country clubs, yacht clubs, golf clubs), the arts, local political parties, sports (skiing, golf, sailing, badminton, tennis, etc), galas, charity events, auctions, upscale restaurants, hotels, and lounges, etc. They will be less suspicious of you if you meet them organically, anyway.
SA is popular and oversaturated with faux sugar babies and sugar daddies because it has been plastered all over the media. On YouTube you can find segments about the site from virtually every major news channel and talk show (Bethany Frankel and Dr. Phil to name a few), and these videos have millions and millions of views. It is not popular because it is a worthwhile site ..."
Reddit "sugar lifestyle" is good place for accurate info.
Out of curiosity I looked up how many people earn $100k or more in the US. It’s just 8%. Set aside specifically males and it jumps to 12%. So technically every 25 men walk through that strippers clubs doors, only 3 of them make $100k or more. How is that any different than a normal girl weeding through guys on SA?
Granted if this girl works in a club near a wealthy suburb or in a large touristy city such as San Fran or Vegas the incomes of customers walking in will be more highly skewed when it comes to income. If that bitch was working in Dayton Ohio, she’d be lucky to talk to 3 guys out of 100 in a more rural area.
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This, perhaps, aimed at me @Shailynn? If so, you should expand. I try to be dead honest with my posts about the sugaring scene.
It would be very hard to sugar on $100K pre-tax salary in most metro areas without spending your last time. I would say that comfortable sugaring starts at about the top 2% by net worth (not salary). It's mostly for the older guys that have been investing for decades.
There is a serious flaw in that logic. It's like saying that if 10% of the male population is gay, technically 90% of male florists and hairdressers are straight. There is a selection bias that has to be taken into account.
Honestly, I loved the men who were married because there was a smaller chance of them looking for a GF and the money was always consistent. Most married guys pay for discretion and perfer consistency. Its not too draining because we are really only communicating when you are at work so its not much energy that is being used with texting. Technically, one could have several SDs but that's not Realistic. I always lift an eyebrow when I hear about girls making over 5K a month if they aren't in a major area (Vegas, Miami, Houston, ect) or if they claim there were no sexual activities involved.
I know you are, but what am I?
I agree with $100k in a metro area being hard to pull off being a sugar daddy, but in the Midwest (my stomping grounds) in many smaller towns a guy pulling $100k a year is like a millionaire.
Where a girl in large metro area would expect a minimum of $500 for a date, a girl in a small midwestern town would be thrilled with $100.
I also agree with your statement about true sugar daddies, about a decade ago hanging in Vegas a lot, the only guys I knew who had sugar babies were extremely wealthy guys, mostly who were surgeons. Today, because of a few websites people like Juice now claim they are Sugar Daddies, not quite the same thing, but neither are the sugar babies either.
2. Flagooner - I seriously think my statement very much depends on the club location. In your world, I’m sure there’s clubs where not one single guy walks in that makes less than $100k, but I could pass a dozen clubs along I70 on any given night lucky to find 1 guy making over 100k in any of them.
That dancer needs to focus more on not what a guy makes, but what he is willing to spend. Sorry, her rant just got under my skin a little.
Isn’t twentyfive a florist?
I prefer the clubs where blue collar guys can enjoy themselves. There are the clubs you describe in SoFla and in the Tampa area.
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Mic drop.... o~~~
butterfinger cant even handle a mike lol
Another reason some women who will sugar, but won't strip, is self body image issues. They have a misconception that all strippers have perfect bodies and don't think theirs live up to the expectation. Being a successful stripper is as much about attitude and personality as it is about looks.
Regardless of the fact that strippers are often broke, if they are any good at all they easily make over 1,000 a week if they show up most days. Not being able to manage money to the point of being current with all your bills and having a bit of savings is no indication of earnings. A quote I read once, and I wish I could remember by whom, stuck with me when trying to teach my kids about money, "It's not what you make but what you spend". They always thought that if they could just get a raise they would be OK.
BTW, I have known plenty of dancers who routinely made $500 (usually after tax money or rather without tax money) in a 6-hour shift. Most would easily crack $1k a day if they hustled and worked a few extra hours.
I was also directed to a quora.com site which stated that 8.5% of INDIVIDUAL workers made $100K or more. I wonder if they considered retirees with a 6-figure pension (or pension plus Social Security plus 401K withdrawals) as part of their study ? The actual number of strip club patrons above $100K may very well be a bit above that 8.5% figure. So called studies have enough Swiss Cheese holes in them to lean on too heavily for surgical precision accuracy. What really matters to strippers is your willingness to spend the money that you bring to a club that night.
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According to the US Census Bureau in 2016, about 9.15% of individuals made over $100k. So about 6% men probably made over $100k a year. Interestingly, the Bureau of Labor Statistics has higher figures for median income than the Census Bureau, so i don't know which one is more accurate. I'm leaning more toward the BLS. According to the census, less than 30% of all individuals make more than $50k a year which sounds low.