Strip club's fine system laid bare: Dancers penalised $100 if they wear g-string
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Really they can fine probably anyone they want as a means of control.
I know I heard first hand about the clubs in Detroit ( some of my first comments on here I raised the question and I was told by a dancer it wasn't a big deal)
Same scenario with a strip club and strippers.
DV insists that following the advice of their lawyer and likely all these contractor status suits, they impose no more fines.
And in their TJ place they don't regulate the women or get money from them at all. This is the way it should be. And this should go a long way in making their place as good as any in TJ.
And in our own underground Mexican Bar table dancing places, it approximates that. Not totally the same, but very flexible relationship when you are feeding a girl money in small increments at your table. And the girl who can engage well with you there, she is the girl you would be best to be spending private time with.
So the way that would apply in a UHM club with the back rooms is, no dance buying, but a front room makeout session. Then when it is time for your own pants to come down, you invite her to the back room.
SJG
The girls are allowed to drink (but they have to bring in their own).
Legends has a few fines. Missed shift is $50. Two girls in the bathroom at one time is $50. Not so much a fine, but the freelance "fee" is $50 added to tip out. Once, an extras girl (who has been reviewed before) was fired for stealing a wad of cash from a customer while he was counting what he owed. She just grabbed it all and walked away. She was fired for that and her rehiring fine was $500 and had to be paid in full.
Bouzouki had a MILLION fines for little stupid shit and they were never enforced. Just empty threats of possible fines.
Do you agree that the club should try to reduce unnecessary rules, and also to not get in the way if a dancer and a customer are getting friendly in the front room, not try to force things into the dance booths.
SJG
SJG
This is an unwarranted and unfair dig.
The best clubs do not use a schedule, they let the dancers come and go as they please. And with the highest mileage places, the boss does not want to know what they do.
The girl decides when to take guys behind her Chair Fort from the early days of UHM in Dallas and Houston, or into the collective VIP Room at Arnie's near Chicago, or onto the couches in the specially darkened corners at dives across the country, to finish what they've already started with their front room makeout session, or out to their mini van as was the case in one local Mexican Bar, or just for what they call arriba in TJ.
SJG
In Miami/South-FL clubs, it's nude on-stage and every-dancer gets full-nude so I assume they are told to do so by the clubs - it's kinda the South-FL standard.
In Miami/South-FL clubs, it's nude on-stage and every-dancer gets full-nude so I assume they are told to do so by the clubs - it's kinda the South-FL standard.
At Deja Vu, we're told at least one of our songs on stage needs to be nude. I take mt top off second song, and bottoms third song. Some girls take tops and bottoms off third song. Some girls just wait until the near end of the third song to take their bottoms off (if nobody is tipping). We are told not to grind on customers in dancea if doing a nude dance, too.
As for the "can't hack-it in the real-world in a real-job" thing, I have two college degrees. I had corporate jobs in info tech and remote desktop support. I can program and run command line Linux. I'm a fuckin nerd.
But I strip, not because I can't handle a "real job," but because I choose and want to. I have an autoimmune disease and sometimes I just can't physically get out of bed. Corporate jobs don't care and you're still expected to show up. As a dancer, I can just call in or opt to make up the shift another day and still have my job. I'm also a night owl and extremely into physical fitness and keeping an active lifestyle, so dancing is perfect for me currently.
Others strip because they might have no other choice. They are also usually the stereotypical dancers.
Back to the topic, the comment above mine, every club I've worked at (except Deja Vu) has late fees for showing up after your shoft starts. It's very typical. Bouzouki and most others are $10/hour. Legends is more expensive at $10/half hour. The latest I can show up to wprk at Deja Vu is 9pm Sun-Wed and 10-11pm Thurs-Sat. Showing up after the cut off gets you sent home.
Dancer A: "I got fined $50 for coming in late."
Dancer B: "I never pay fines. I just give the DJ a blow job."
* hide in the dressing room and not tend to customers
* play on their phones and completely ignore customers
* get stoned (drugs and/or alcohol)
* give shitty customer service and ripoff customers
Yes, I know, it does not apply to all dancers and yes they are "independent contractors" but IME if left to the dancers' own devices many clubs would probably not be able ti function (letting the inmates run thr asylum thing) .
Additionally many of us know of strippers that try to work a regular job and feel that being required to be on time and work a full 40 hours is unacceptable.
Silver Criket is the only club I've worked at where there's a fine for being on your phone. I can't remember if it's $25 or $50, but they do enforce it for dancers.
And so yes, like at the San Jose Pink Poodle, there are rules about getting the panties off. But that is a no touching club.
We had a bunch of videos, before youtube took them down, plus written accounts, at the TJ Honk Kong bar no one really worries about that. Visual display is not that big of a deal. So usually the little outfits don't come off until someone gives her money, and often that is for abajo, he wants to daty her at stage side.
At some US dives, written about Passions NOLA, they don't even use the stage. They just stand around it, until someone shows interest. Then they go and sit on his lap and start licking his neck and nibbling at his ear lobe.
Strip Clubs are an American invention. Its cause of what our law prohibits, but what our constitution says the law cannot prohibit.
In other countries they have less nude shows, but more direct engagement. And in US dives it can approach this. Our Mexican Bar underground did not used to have any stages.
And as widely written about Cha Cha's in Chicago, it had no stage, but table dancing with no real limits. It may have been front room FS. Now gone.
So the best clubs don't really need anybody cracking any whip, as that kind of stuff does not matter.
SJG
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This is no different than an office worker exposing the horrors of office work. If I show up to work in a g-string - and clear platforms - I’ll be in big trouble! A fine will be the least of my worries.
But strip club dancing is a different kind of a job. What the women are being asked to do cannot be forced.
DV insists that it in no way regulates the women or imposes fines or gets any cut from them, in TJ.
At the best of our underground places, no schedules, dancers come and go as they please, and they put this to maximum benefit. And while nominally only topless, all manner of pussy flashing, licking, and entering was taking place. Originally no stage.
No need to boss the women around in such a situation.
Think about this!
SJG