Front Room Strip Club DFKing

It all comes down to how you perceive the girl, and how you want to interact with her.

And so no, Deja Vu is not the main source of the problem, even in San Francisco. But we must get more clubs, different sorts of clubs, opened, in the Bay Area, and everywhere!

SJG

Innumerable examples claimed by the OP, who has posted ZERO ACTUAL REVIEWS on TUSCL. I think it is fair to call Bullshit.

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One of the things which makes this kind of a discussion difficult is that lots of guys have just never learned how to be forward with civilian girls, how to end up making out with them, without the need for calendar time to pass and a car keys and wallet date.

The reason I think that some are so certain that front room DFKing does not happen in strip clubs is just that they are going to clubs which do not favor FS.

But this I mean, in some clubs, FS is not possible. In others it does happen, but it is probably rare. When it does, the guy has probably had the girl in the dance booth a time or two already, and this even further runs up the cost.

But in some clubs it happens all the time, it is the primary form of "dance". As such, if not using words but by demeanor and actions, the girls are communicating this in the front room. The girls are competing with each other, and with the girls in all the other clubs in that area. The primary means by which they do this is by making the guy understand right off that FS is available, and immediately. And so it is well documented that in some places girls either lead with DFKing, or by encouraging DFKing. And then even when they are not doing that, in such situations, if the guy tries to steer it to DFKing, then probably they will comply whole heartedly.

Consider that we had one underground place where girls were doing front room FS. And then after LE stopped that, the core group of Latinas, sisters and cousins, were bringing their own mini-van into the parking lot. And so of course if they are on a guys lap, and trying to promote this, they are not going to refuse DFKing.

Likewise even in our strict no touching clubs, DFKing still sometimes occurs, as a girl is trying to set up immediate OTC.

People go to clubs where there is no onsite FS, and so there is no DFKing, at least not out in the open. And besides that, they just don't see what they don't want to see.

SJG

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SLD it's pointless with SJG. Besides, I think he has you on ignore so he doesn't see your posts.

You make valid points, like you usually do. There's a reason why SJG was voted 'most stubborn member' on this site. You could bring a panel of dancers to him and all have them confess that they have no problem with and as a matter of fact aim to have a guy LDK. And yet still, SJG would still write a manifesto saying differently and then write an even longer manifesto about DFKing.

Basically, it's pointless trying to reason. Everyone knows it, which is why his threads are just him talking to himself.

Hey all, sorry about the meerkat playing games. I'm bored in the ER and am catching up on the discussions. My dog's pet lemur's sugar glider friend came when he heard what was going on with the meerkat bite. The sugar glider said that playing the long game with SJG is probably the way to go. He said that he thinks SJG is trying to do the best with the cards he was dealt, and that he thinks SJG airs both his worst and best impulses here to reality test them.

SJG's myopic and obsessive compultions with this weird robotic chant convinces me he has some sort of bizzare fetish involving certain words and conversations where he relives some moments in his past where he experienced something intense and pleasurable. He must be in a pretty bad state if he is stuck in that spot.

I had thought about that, too, and brought it up with my zebra finch. My zebra finch told me about grace and some other stuff that I didn't really understand because his high-pitched chirping is in the audible range I have had damaged by all the party atmosphere at the clubs. A few clubs are now on my list to visit because of what the zebra finch told me he saw when he flew in, though.

Upright Citizen, you have nailed the SJG assessment spot on. He’s stuck on a moment in his past where he got lucky once, and figured this is what it’s about. Imagine sex workers opening up to you like a civilian relationship works, in the majority of interactions? No way, and to justify it by any means is psychotic.

The accounts of front room makeout sessions in US strip clubs are here on this site, for those who want to read what they words say. For me, its a matter if direct observation, and sometimes direct participation.

Often these TUSCL accounts will be for very loose anything goes types of clubs. But it also happen when girls are trying to line up OTC.

There are also such accounts on Stripper Web, its just that the one making the post is usually condemning it.

These accounts were even more numerous on Black Strip Clubs (dot) Net. The idea is simple, day shift, the girls want to make money, so they do what it takes to get guys into the back room. They are just sampling in the front room what they intend to do in the back room. Yet people remain incredulous.

And then for TJ, we have innumerable accounts, and videos. TJ is not a fundamentally different situation, than what you find in the US clubs. Its just shifted a bit more to the extreme. What happens in TJ as a matter of course, also happens sometimes and some places here in the US.

If a girl is in competition with other girls, that is an extremely effective means of locking the guy in for the arriba.

Some guys cannot see this because they have something burned out in their brains. So let them keep paying money for LDK's. I hope the girls drain their wallets dry, and I hope their divorcing wives clean them out for everything else.

Any such wife, I'll be happy to find her a good lawyer, anywhere in the US.

SJG

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In TJ the girls push it to front room DFKing. By all written accounts it is like this also in the Chicago Club, and even more than HK, it BT and LC, and then reaching an extreme where the girls give you zero choice in the matter, the Playboy Bar.

In US Clubs and AMPs, DFKing is the way to get the girl totally opened up.

SJG