Tips for a newb on extras

Depends on the girl - whether she does otc, and whether she likes you. I’ll do any guy with a big enough cock.

"My goal was to get front room DFK or backroom DFK as San Jose Guy recommends but was shot down by "let's see where it goes" and "I'd get fired"

Heresy! The SJG "system" is foolproof. Are you sure you followed all the correct steps? I see no mention of softening her before it was time for your own pants to come down.

Any details on softening? Had good convo but wasn't enough.

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Lol realDougster is being sarcastic. Everyone on this site knows that SJG is full of shit and so is his front room makeout bullshit. The dude hasn't set foot in a club in over a decade so he is the WORST person to take advice from.

That said, backroom (VIP) make out sessions are possible with a willing dancer. I don't have any tips on how to find her though. I just know they exist because I had one initiate one with me in a VIP room just last week. I usually don't go for DFK sessions, I just like the grind and the groping. However this chick was so pretty and I was pretty drunk and just said fuck it and reciprocated. It was actually a lot of fun.

That said, you just have to find the clubs where extras are known to be had. To tell the truth, the extras are probably easier to come by than the dancer who will DFK with you for extended periods of time.

I have a few LFK me......I don't mind that at all....haven't gotten any DFK though.

carol, mine goes into bonus length upon dfk:)

and its not in any backroom.....out on the floor.

Dunno where the line is between lfk/dfk but either works, and might be all the extras I'm looking for that day.

SJG is a troll and most people have him on their ignore list. Click on his user name and then you should be able to see the ignore button.

His advice will work in a mexican brothel. But so will LITERALLY any other strategy no matter how bad.

PaulDrake, I'm gonna level with you. SJG and I discuss his strategy all the time during group. It's actually not bad. You just treat the girl like a civilian and be sure to grope her a whole bunch in front of all the bouncers. But don't pay her. That's not why she's there. She'll find it insulting if you offer her money and treat her like a whore. It doesn't matter how many kids she has or what kind of drugs she's addicted to. She'll still get really offended if you treat her like a whore. Everyone in group agrees with this strategy. There's nothing crazy about it, you chump. Everyone's doing it.

First, never listen to SJG. He is wrong about just about everything, and he’s never been to a strip club.

Second, if you’re looking for sex ITc, you need to go to a club known for extras. It’s is possible to get sex in a number n-extras club, but not without a lot more experience.

Third, if you want a stripper to come back to your hotel room, you can do that at almost any club. I suggest searching “OTC” in the discussions since this topic comes up a lot. You can also post specific questions about otc but not general questions like “how do I get sex from a stripper.”

OTC is a wonderful thing...You may get it when you never dreamed of it...And many times it's just out of reach...My favorite experience was at Babylon in Austintown, Ohio....I was in the VIP downstairs during the day with a girl...Told her I had an ounce of cocaine back at the hotel....She told me "all the dancers here get drug tested". We can't do things like that....[This isn't the first time I've heard this shit about being "drug tested" bla bla bla]...Anyway, I just kept mentioning how I didn't have anyone to share it with and how bummed out I was...and within 3-4 dances she asked for my room# to hook up after her shift...Which we did....It was a fanfuckingtastic time too...She was 22, athletic, maybe a 7....but full of spunk like the energizer bunny...she spent the night for zero dollars, other than expense of liquor and cocaine...

I have a stripper who will come to my house or a hotel for free if I buy the coke or crack. The trouble with this is both "take the lead out of my pencil". 30 years ago I could snort all the white I could get up my nose & then fuck all night. Today, it's not just my legs that are limp.

It's your first time to Club need to go there and let them feel that you're going to be at least a somewhat regular. Then all the rules get laxed. I've full on fingered girls at no-touch clubs. So its all about how much "trust capital" and how relaxed (or crazy) the dancer is.

"30 years ago I could snort all the white I could get up my nose & then fuck all night. Today, it's not just my legs that are limp."

haha sorry my little friend, but it's all good because i made plenty of money off you guys back in the 80s, just ask SJG because he can't even get it up with a crane these days.

GACA, just for a rough idea, at what point do you get some cred as a regular? Are you getting dances every time from the girl you're interested in extras with?

Are you going during day shift or night shift? Are you going to a club that is known for extras? What type of extras are you looking for?

First things first, you don't owe a dancer anything for sitting with you. Not an "obligatory" dance and not a tip and not even an overpriced drink. The only reason you might tip is if you were groping her most of the time she was sitting with or on you. Or you might buy her a drink to "loosen" her up while you grope her while she's drinking. Better yet buy her some food as well to force her to sit with you even longer. You might even be able to score some of this legendary front room DFK. This, however, has never been my style long before #me too, but something many TUSCLers and Trumpians swear by.

To get extras, you preferably need to be with an extras girl at an extras club. By gleaning through some local reviews on TUSCL, you should get a fair idea if the club is extras friendly. If it is very much so, just work on some physical flirtation with your girl of choice when she sits with you. If she is giving you intimate "handshakes" and talking dirty, that's a good sign that extras are imminent. That's when you negotiate where and how much. Some places, VIP (or OTC) is pretty much the only place, but sometimes you can get these in regular "private" or semi-private dances.

To be a regular of a dancer, you have to see her regularly as well as spend money on her regularly. This could be as little as once a month or so although the further intervals apart usually require more spending for her to "remember" you. It's usually a lot more than just one dance. Most girls (and PLs too) don't like doing just one dance. The girls usually see it as a waste of time and the PLs usually see it as a waste of money. With or without extras, having a regular is an expensive habit. It might not be in your best interest to have a regular for the goal of attaining extras, although OTC usually does require the familiarity and trust being a regular entails.

Interesting, are you getting LDK out of multiple dances? I'm kind of past vanilla dances in general; occasionally there'd be a nice move I haven't seen before but, meh. One was close to an LDK but I didn't go alone that time and didn't want a visible mess.

"My goal was to get front room DFK or backroom DFK as San Jose Guy recommends but was shot down by "let's see where it goes" and "I'd get fired".

LOL. Probably the typical dancer reaction to any PL trying to use SJG's system. Either that, or "SECURITY!" lol

Don't know about getting fired, but depending on how strict the club is, she might get fined, or at the very least, yelled at by a manager/bouncer.

"They tried to get more dances after the 1st but I said no."

With a dancer that's new to you, generally the first dance is more of a feeling each other out (figuratively and literally) and getting a good rapport going. As you get more comfortable with each other, the follow-on dances should get better.

"at what point do you get some cred as a regular?"

A dancer may or may not remember you after one visit. After the second visit, she will likely seek you out the next time you're in the club. After the third visit, she will likely consider you a regular. If DFK is gonna happen, it should happen by then.

You may be able to speed up the process if you have time for an extended stay, by breaking up your dances. Get some dances, take a break, chat, have a drink, etc., then get some more dances, rinse, repeat, maybe ending up with a VIP.

Just my random thoughts.

"To get extras, you preferably need to be with an extras girl at an extras club."

Truer words were never spoken.

As has been said before - this approach must be done in an extra friendly club.

When you follow SJG’s system - you will form an intense bond with the dancer. It will feel as though there’s no one else in the building. The downside is that there are still bouncers and club managers around - and they don’t feel the same intense bond.

You enter the club (after removing your fanny pack - and after securing your bike with a proper chain). You act as though you own the place - and you find the hottest dancer - and you immediately approach her. You must take control - and show her you are the boss. You sit with her - and discuss pipe organs and pseudo political events (and throw in a few references to your knowledge of huffy bike repairs). Look deeply into her eyes - lick your lips knowingly - and don’t blink! She will get wet just listening to you!

After a few minutes - pull her close - and let her tongue find yours - and it won’t be long before you are playing tonsil hockey! As you do this - run your hands through her long hair. It’s nice to compliment her too “Your hair feels much silkier than mother’s!” always works for me.

If you need more insight - just let me know. A little knowledge (of the SJG system) can be very powerful!

I can't do the cocaine thing any more....though I'd consider buying some coke or H if a girl wanted it and not partake....Overall I'd prefer to avoid drugs at my age though considering they're still illegal and you never know when a girl could drop dead or have a reaction to something...Its extremely unlikely, but better to be safe..Anyway now I'd just prefer to give my CF or ATF cash. What I do is pretty damn pathetic compared to the ballers in here. But, I'm reading and learning....I pick someone who really turns me on..Who really clicks with me...and I'll spend on her at least weekly....I'm dropping $200-300 minimum. I'm really big into listening and somehow I get them telling me all about their lives and bad habits. Then I usually talk about how beautiful they are and compliment them on a variety of things. I look for the good in everyone. I'm not shy about sex either. After a couple times they'd better be at least kissing me, stroking my hair, breathing in my ear, and trying to LDK me constantly...Though I can't come like that. Then usually we end up talking head and sex...Somehow the girls usually like to tell me exactly just how good they are and they can be quite boastful.....Then I've had all I can have with ITC and usually ask for OTC....If she says yes, we can progress...If she says no, I must stop wasting my time and money. My methods are slow, money wasting, and subjects me to being used, but often work. Since I've been on here, I'm refining things a bit.

SJG has never seen a vagina.

Max_starr - your method is a very good one. It’s subtle and it can be expensive (over time). But it builds familiarity and comfort. When a dancer relaxes and gets comfortable with you, things can become more beneficial.

It’s basically you becoming a regular - and then moving to a regular with benefits/extras status. You know when to cut it off - if it’s not moving towards what you want - and that’s important.

@Pyroxl - Sounds like you are really new at this. If you are only getting single dances and have been able to get close to LDK you might want to see if you can make that work for you. It is a way cheaper addiction. Try to find an LDQ, a dancer that will happily actively try to make you achieve orgasm from a lap dance. Good LDQs will actively stay in the positions you want and stop doing those you don't. I had a lot of trouble at first (look at my old threads) but after gaining some experience one of the girls that was super frustrating to get a dance with turned out to be the best LDQ of all time including stroking the head of my dick OTP will grinding me.

To get the LDK expect to go for at least 4-5 dances so you aren't worried or thinking about the money. Then just relax and enjoy the pleasure and it will probably happen.

Next my advice is to completely forget about DFK. You are new and probably doing a ton of things wrong and dancers can smell it. As you get more experienced maybe it will happen and you will be pleasantly surprised but if you go in expecting it you are just going to be frustrated and that is not good.

"My methods are slow, money wasting, and subjects me to being used"

Sounds like escorts are a better way to go? More of a sure thing if spending multiple benjamins per visit.

The near-LDK was on a different visit in which the dancer was scamming me by pulling me to the booth with no mention of any transaction, just saying "let me give you a preview of blah blah", didn't know where we were going as a 1st timer to that club. Then tried to get me to VIP but the price was just ludicrous. After we finally stopped negotiating, she charged me for several dances even though we spent maybe 1 dance negotiating.

@pyroxl I usually have three girls i spend some money on. Competition is good for the customers. I play dumb they get jealous tell me to choose and then step up their services. I always have a favorite let the othet two understand that shes a favorite aka "she was the first one that approached me, she's cool we click" and the other two usually try their hardest to "steal me away".

I usually am there one or twice a week on weekdays. It's slow so $75 to $120 and some good company goes a long way with them. I of course spend big occasionally and very randomly to keep them guessing.

But ya i find that way i don't spend way out of control and cultivate a good overall rep. The better the rep the more action. It really isn't 100% about money, 90% for sure but not 100%, when it comes to getting extras.

@Pyroxl at least I don't do VIP and I can keep my spend to 100-200 per hour depending on how generous I am....I've got it to where I can let them dance for an hour or two and whatever I pay them, they'll take it...so I guess I'm not that bad off...300 an hour you better be fucking me though.....:)

What are your considerations when choosing between escort vs sc extras? Seems like escort is more efficient though sc can be nice for the variety in eye candy. For extras though, probably more expensive with dancers than with escorts, it sounds like.

It is easier to “cut to the chase” with escorts. However, with escorts it’s best to stick with reliable ones who’ve provided good services in the past. The main issue with escorts (in my dealings) has been them not looking like their photos.

In a strip club you see what you get before any plans are made. However, it can take longer to get to extras (if you are new to a club).

Also, if you go with itc extras, it’s not as comfortably private, but you don’t need to find a room (and pay for the room).