Tips for a newb on extras
Pyroxl
Yonder
Went to a nearby club on a weekday and was the only one there for half the time before a couple other dudes showed up. 2 dancers visited me and chatted long enough for me to feel obliged, got a dance from each. My goal was to get front room DFK or backroom DFK as San Jose Guy recommends but was shot down by "let's see where it goes" and "I'd get fired". Persisted a bit but felt it was a dead end. They didn't bring up VIP for some reason even though the club's reviews do mention there is a VIP room.
I probably should've just tipped them for the convo (how much would you tip for a 10min convo? $10?) instead of doing a dance out of obligation. They tried to get more dances after the 1st but I said no. I'm bored of vanilla dances now and want to hunt for extras.
How much time/money would you say you've invested before getting extras or OTC action? I met a guy who pulled same night to his hotel without even paying extra but guessing that's a blue moon occurrence. TIA for any guidance.
I probably should've just tipped them for the convo (how much would you tip for a 10min convo? $10?) instead of doing a dance out of obligation. They tried to get more dances after the 1st but I said no. I'm bored of vanilla dances now and want to hunt for extras.
How much time/money would you say you've invested before getting extras or OTC action? I met a guy who pulled same night to his hotel without even paying extra but guessing that's a blue moon occurrence. TIA for any guidance.
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Heresy! The SJG "system" is foolproof. Are you sure you followed all the correct steps? I see no mention of softening her before it was time for your own pants to come down.
That said, backroom (VIP) make out sessions are possible with a willing dancer. I don't have any tips on how to find her though. I just know they exist because I had one initiate one with me in a VIP room just last week. I usually don't go for DFK sessions, I just like the grind and the groping. However this chick was so pretty and I was pretty drunk and just said fuck it and reciprocated. It was actually a lot of fun.
That said, you just have to find the clubs where extras are known to be had. To tell the truth, the extras are probably easier to come by than the dancer who will DFK with you for extended periods of time.
His advice will work in a mexican brothel. But so will LITERALLY any other strategy no matter how bad.
Second, if you’re looking for sex ITc, you need to go to a club known for extras. It’s is possible to get sex in a number n-extras club, but not without a lot more experience.
Third, if you want a stripper to come back to your hotel room, you can do that at almost any club. I suggest searching “OTC” in the discussions since this topic comes up a lot. You can also post specific questions about otc but not general questions like “how do I get sex from a stripper.”
haha sorry my little friend, but it's all good because i made plenty of money off you guys back in the 80s, just ask SJG because he can't even get it up with a crane these days.
To get extras, you preferably need to be with an extras girl at an extras club. By gleaning through some local reviews on TUSCL, you should get a fair idea if the club is extras friendly. If it is very much so, just work on some physical flirtation with your girl of choice when she sits with you. If she is giving you intimate "handshakes" and talking dirty, that's a good sign that extras are imminent. That's when you negotiate where and how much. Some places, VIP (or OTC) is pretty much the only place, but sometimes you can get these in regular "private" or semi-private dances.
To be a regular of a dancer, you have to see her regularly as well as spend money on her regularly. This could be as little as once a month or so although the further intervals apart usually require more spending for her to "remember" you. It's usually a lot more than just one dance. Most girls (and PLs too) don't like doing just one dance. The girls usually see it as a waste of time and the PLs usually see it as a waste of money. With or without extras, having a regular is an expensive habit. It might not be in your best interest to have a regular for the goal of attaining extras, although OTC usually does require the familiarity and trust being a regular entails.
LOL. Probably the typical dancer reaction to any PL trying to use SJG's system. Either that, or "SECURITY!" lol
Don't know about getting fired, but depending on how strict the club is, she might get fined, or at the very least, yelled at by a manager/bouncer.
With a dancer that's new to you, generally the first dance is more of a feeling each other out (figuratively and literally) and getting a good rapport going. As you get more comfortable with each other, the follow-on dances should get better.
A dancer may or may not remember you after one visit. After the second visit, she will likely seek you out the next time you're in the club. After the third visit, she will likely consider you a regular. If DFK is gonna happen, it should happen by then.
You may be able to speed up the process if you have time for an extended stay, by breaking up your dances. Get some dances, take a break, chat, have a drink, etc., then get some more dances, rinse, repeat, maybe ending up with a VIP.
Just my random thoughts.
Truer words were never spoken.
When you follow SJG’s system - you will form an intense bond with the dancer. It will feel as though there’s no one else in the building. The downside is that there are still bouncers and club managers around - and they don’t feel the same intense bond.
You enter the club (after removing your fanny pack - and after securing your bike with a proper chain). You act as though you own the place - and you find the hottest dancer - and you immediately approach her. You must take control - and show her you are the boss. You sit with her - and discuss pipe organs and pseudo political events (and throw in a few references to your knowledge of huffy bike repairs). Look deeply into her eyes - lick your lips knowingly - and don’t blink! She will get wet just listening to you!
After a few minutes - pull her close - and let her tongue find yours - and it won’t be long before you are playing tonsil hockey! As you do this - run your hands through her long hair. It’s nice to compliment her too “Your hair feels much silkier than mother’s!” always works for me.
If you need more insight - just let me know. A little knowledge (of the SJG system) can be very powerful!
It’s basically you becoming a regular - and then moving to a regular with benefits/extras status. You know when to cut it off - if it’s not moving towards what you want - and that’s important.
To get the LDK expect to go for at least 4-5 dances so you aren't worried or thinking about the money. Then just relax and enjoy the pleasure and it will probably happen.
Next my advice is to completely forget about DFK. You are new and probably doing a ton of things wrong and dancers can smell it. As you get more experienced maybe it will happen and you will be pleasantly surprised but if you go in expecting it you are just going to be frustrated and that is not good.
Sounds like escorts are a better way to go? More of a sure thing if spending multiple benjamins per visit.
The near-LDK was on a different visit in which the dancer was scamming me by pulling me to the booth with no mention of any transaction, just saying "let me give you a preview of blah blah", didn't know where we were going as a 1st timer to that club. Then tried to get me to VIP but the price was just ludicrous. After we finally stopped negotiating, she charged me for several dances even though we spent maybe 1 dance negotiating.
I usually am there one or twice a week on weekdays. It's slow so $75 to $120 and some good company goes a long way with them. I of course spend big occasionally and very randomly to keep them guessing.
But ya i find that way i don't spend way out of control and cultivate a good overall rep. The better the rep the more action. It really isn't 100% about money, 90% for sure but not 100%, when it comes to getting extras.
In a strip club you see what you get before any plans are made. However, it can take longer to get to extras (if you are new to a club).
Also, if you go with itc extras, it’s not as comfortably private, but you don’t need to find a room (and pay for the room).