The biggest lesson I've learned from Mongering
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Un-retired: Met my ATF. Married her. Divorcing her.
And so I figured if I was going to drop $100 or more I might as well get to the point go to strip club cuz all I'm looking for is tits and ass anyway.
The one absolute truth i think I've learned in the last 3.5 years is that where women are concerned, there really is no such thing as immediate gratification.
I'd been in the job market for 10 years before I had enough disposable income to entertain going to strip clubs. Once in the stripclub it was still some months of familiarizing myself with the ladies before I got some trickles of OTC offers.
The club provided me enough near term reward that eventually i was motivated enough to start working out again, and after some months of that consistency I noticed more unsolicited offers come my way.
All that being said is to get the experience I truly wanted took time. I think the only thing strip clubs good for me with help me to Envision the reward aspect (eye on the prize
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Much quicker, easier, and reliably, to get physical satisfaction from women with money vs chivalry.
If you're looking for love, try a dating site; if you want your physical needs and wants more reliably met, then P4P may often be the better way to go.
In the real world the female basically has all the power and the male not much leverage - in strip clubs that is often reversed where the females tend to be the ones to seek the male$ and the males often get to do the choo$$ing.
And - as auto manufacturers claim - your mileage may vary (depending on how hard you drive)...
Also time is shorter than money and the SC isn’t a GF supermarket.
Leonum non refert quid oves censeant - Lions don’t concern themselves about what sheep think.
Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind.
@Aesop said: “When the hares addressed a public meeting and claimed that all should have fair shares, the lions answered: “A good speech, Hairy-Feet, but it lacks claws and teeth such as we have.””
Or how I stopped being a bleeding heart which is more Tuscl lesson than learned from inside a strip club.
When I returned to clubbing, I had wondered about heavy contact, mileage, extras, and the girls offering me OTC. I had wondered to myself, as a bleeding heart, "does this bother the dancers? I am contributing to their PTSD with touching, etc?" I read Tuscl, then stripper blogs and eventually found my way to the pink site. Naturally, on the pink site, in a bias-confirming way, I found evidence that high contact was causing PTSD like symptoms with dancers and their civilian BFs and husbands! (often breast and ass touching). Initially I was horrified and concerned by what I read. Was I in a way contributing to this, I wondered?
Slowly the anti-customer attitudes with the pink site groupthink started to callous me over and let me re-think things. Then I gave Tuscl a try again in Dec 2015. Also learning that the dancers IRL in the clubs, in their own words, as an actual dancer response, in frank vulgar tone, "I don't give a fuck!" Helped the most. They really 100% were about the money $. Most the dancers aren't exactly shrinking violets. Still not sure where I picked up the bleeding heart. I never used to have it, certainly not as a teen and SC noob in the '90s.
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"Strip clubs are a lot like gas stations - you pay before you pump in both places. "
NJ gas stations - you pay, but somebody pumps for you.
Hope the strip clubs in NJ don't take it that far.
I’m thinking that might work even better. As you pay - and a hot stripper gives you a nice pump/hand job... sometimes self service pumping can be a bit mundane - lol!
Yes I was was republican back then. And the law of the jungle was sufficient explanation for me. I probably lean more libertarian these days but I still register as an R.
Don't worry what anyone thinks of you, especially strippers. They get paid, they'll want to see you again. The things I worried about were likely mundane anyway, like "did I go too far by touching that?" or "do I look creepy wearing this?" or "will she still want to dance if I propositon her?"
Ask! Use your words! This is for everything, like keeping her in a certain position, seeing if she'll come see you after her set on stage. Non-verbal queues can work, but words are best. Dumb that I didn't realize this earlier, I know. I had this odd thought that you just sit there and say nothing and they'll automatically know you'll want a dance and that you only get whatever dance they feel like. Wrong, ask and you'll likely receive.
Sexual gratification is so much easier to receive through money than courtship. IME anyway.
A lot of guys think SCing is expensive because they leak money. Girls come up to them and offer to go to the VIP, they aren't interested, and the girl asks for some money for her time. That's $20 down. Another girl that the guy likes offers vague promises about what will happen in the VIP. He spends $500 on her when he could have spent $60-$100 in the front room (privacy is expensive).
That's been my experience. Now I won't get in the way of a girl's sales pitch to a guy but I'm not going to fall for the same pitch. I'll get what I want for what I'm willing to pay or find some other girl who will give it to me.
One of the biggest signs of overpaying a stripper is watching her walk away happy and upbeat. If you're popular with every girl in the club, that's another sign you're paying too much. Now I won't disrespect a stripper but I also won't overpay for something even if I can afford to.