Think about it. Everything about what we are trying to get at a strip club is timed. 15 or 30 minute VIP rooms. Or even when you are getting lap dances, you are financially rewarded for being quick. If you LDK after 3 dances, you spend less than if it takes you 6.
Don’t think so...besides neither 15 or 30 minutes fits the technical definition of premature ejaculation. Marathon sessions are the fantasy byproduct of penthouse forum and porn.
Making yourself ejaculate/LDK quickly in 2-3 songs when you can fuck for 15-20 minutes takes some practice. I don't see it as strip club "making" me premature ejaculate. Instead I see it as "enabling" me to control when exactly I want to cum. Over my years of LDKing and fucking my wife I have learned to fuck longer and LDK quicker and the two have nothing to do with each other. How long before I LDK and how long I can fuck are two separate skills in my experience.
Interesting post. In all seriousness I have to believe the answer may be yes. With the perceived need to hurry up, due to time and prying eyes, yes, premature ejaculation is probably learned.
That depends. If you are doing just dances then they may want to draw it out to make more money. If you are in VIP, then the quicker the better. So they can get back out to the next customer. However a dancer that gives me the bums rush in VIP will not become a favorite and get any more money outta me.
If it is inside pants you are good.Dont do it outside pants.Its against club rules whether it's VIP or not.They are not your girlfriends.
I usually take 6 to 7 dances with a girl if I like her and dances very much.I still could not do LDK. In VIP also I had dances for 30 min nonstop I could not cum.May be my stamina is increased.
It all depends how soon you get erection and how long it stays hard .
Not all men equal.
My answer is no. I take forever which the last girl really liked a lot. I don't worry about not getting off in some timed interval in a strip club because I know it's not going to happen. If it does she has some kind of voodoo magic. I did meet a snake charmer one night. Surprised the hell out of me.
If you do it often enough it could. Stamina is a learned behavior. The few times I've gone VIP for ITC extras, it has been all about getting me done ASAP. That's a big part of the reason why I usually don't.
Using strip clubs for sexual gratification is perverted. Told to me by a dancer, and she mainly talking about ejaculation services.
LDKing is PATHETIC.
And yes, gammanu95 is right, stamina is learned. First time I have ever agreed with anything he has posted.
Even buying dances is a chump's game. Front room makeout session. Then when it is time for your own pants to come down, you invite her to the back room.
Then afterwards take her home with you and keep on seeing her regularly.
@SJG posted -> "Using strip clubs for sexual gratification is perverted. Told to me by a dancer, and she mainly talking about ejaculation services."
Using strip clubs for sexual gratification is the point of it all.
The dancer that told you is in the minority. I've clubbed in Portland, the Bay Area, Phoenix, New York City, Seattle, Cincinnati, Boston, Philadelphia, and Albuquerque and there were strippers at every city that had zero issue with an LDK and I've had many open conversations about it with Portland and Phoenix strippers to validate it. It's not really a big deal. The hottest dancers in the club are used to it! It's part of the fantasy and enjoyment of going to clubs. I could go into any club in Portland and find an LDK stripper no problem.
@SJG you might want to get out and go to actual strip clubs and have more open conversations with strippers and real interactions with them. You may get a different perspective than the one you have.
This is an interesting topic. I don’t believe clubs force premature ejaculation. Clubs are designed to get as much money from customers as quickly as possible. There isn’t an implied LDK in the design of a strip club.
Your point implies the intent of a customer is to LDK in the club. That is not the case for all customers. For value shoppers - it is cheaper to LDK quickly.
Lapdanceking82, That is an interesting observation. For one thing, I don't take the way women are being presented at strip clubs, or in other P4P venues, at face value. I know that they are still ordinary girls, and that it is best to treat them as such at all times. And always if you are open and honest with the girl, you can usually start getting her off script right off.
I don't really believe that sex or sex acts cost money. Rather, for a women to work in that capacity and be there available, is what costs money. Quite a different thing.
The interval when I used strip clubs the most was when I was in the worst years of my marriage, and I knew that being in a death trap of a marriage made me a Pathetic Looser. I did not have to read that on TUSCL to know it. They guy who cannot either make his marriage work, or end it, is in a horrible situation.
There is no reason to patronize P4P if you have a hard time affording it.
But if you have money and want to go into a new town, and want to make something happen right away, then P4P is good. You can select a stripper you like and would want to know and have a good chance of waking up with her the next morning.
With civvies, the same thing can happen, but the odds of instant results are lower.
But if you make repeated visits to that new town, you should also be able to bed civvies.
Most civvies see sex as a prelude to marriage, and so if they don't see it going to marriage, they will eventually pull back and feel pissed. They want to 'save themselves' for Mr. Right.
Whereas a woman who is getting paid may well be willing to go for this monthly type of relationship, even though the money is no longer money for sex, but more like Mistress Maintenance. She will probably accept that.
In a strip club you also can imbibe a sexual aesthetic, the dolled up hotties, and the openness extended to strangers. That first time making out with the black girl in San Francisco, I spotted her out on the sidewalk and I was going to try and take her to lunch. I got much more than I had bargained for, and I am still assimilating what I learned that day.
So strip clubs are very important, but they still ought not be used for regular sexual gratification. And also, learning to ejaculate quickly is not a good thing.
You take care of yourself LDK. I believe that you will eventually find which direction you should go.
I don't think strip clubbing encourages premature ejaculation. For many guys, it's the exact opposite. Strip clubbing teaches guys to sit in a chair incredibly turned on by nude women but not cumming until much later in the night, if ever.
^^^^ But I think the OP is talking about the typical LDK approach, a guy who specifically goes into the booth with the girl because he wants to cum in his pants, and promptly. And then that is all he intends to know of the girl.
As told to me by a dancer experienced in such places, "Don't use strip clubs for sexual gratification because that is perverted."
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@LDK82 How do you "force" an LDK?
this happened to me only once. one of my very first lap dances. LDK.
I usually take 6 to 7 dances with a girl if I like her and dances very much.I still could not do LDK. In VIP also I had dances for 30 min nonstop I could not cum.May be my stamina is increased.
It all depends how soon you get erection and how long it stays hard .
Not all men equal.
But they are making me premature poor with all the money I’ve spent in the past.
LDKing is PATHETIC.
And yes, gammanu95 is right, stamina is learned. First time I have ever agreed with anything he has posted.
Even buying dances is a chump's game. Front room makeout session. Then when it is time for your own pants to come down, you invite her to the back room.
Then afterwards take her home with you and keep on seeing her regularly.
SJG
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Using strip clubs for sexual gratification is the point of it all.
The dancer that told you is in the minority. I've clubbed in Portland, the Bay Area, Phoenix, New York City, Seattle, Cincinnati, Boston, Philadelphia, and Albuquerque and there were strippers at every city that had zero issue with an LDK and I've had many open conversations about it with Portland and Phoenix strippers to validate it. It's not really a big deal. The hottest dancers in the club are used to it! It's part of the fantasy and enjoyment of going to clubs. I could go into any club in Portland and find an LDK stripper no problem.
@SJG you might want to get out and go to actual strip clubs and have more open conversations with strippers and real interactions with them. You may get a different perspective than the one you have.
Your point implies the intent of a customer is to LDK in the club. That is not the case for all customers. For value shoppers - it is cheaper to LDK quickly.
I don't really believe that sex or sex acts cost money. Rather, for a women to work in that capacity and be there available, is what costs money. Quite a different thing.
The interval when I used strip clubs the most was when I was in the worst years of my marriage, and I knew that being in a death trap of a marriage made me a Pathetic Looser. I did not have to read that on TUSCL to know it. They guy who cannot either make his marriage work, or end it, is in a horrible situation.
There is no reason to patronize P4P if you have a hard time affording it.
But if you have money and want to go into a new town, and want to make something happen right away, then P4P is good. You can select a stripper you like and would want to know and have a good chance of waking up with her the next morning.
With civvies, the same thing can happen, but the odds of instant results are lower.
But if you make repeated visits to that new town, you should also be able to bed civvies.
Most civvies see sex as a prelude to marriage, and so if they don't see it going to marriage, they will eventually pull back and feel pissed. They want to 'save themselves' for Mr. Right.
Whereas a woman who is getting paid may well be willing to go for this monthly type of relationship, even though the money is no longer money for sex, but more like Mistress Maintenance. She will probably accept that.
In a strip club you also can imbibe a sexual aesthetic, the dolled up hotties, and the openness extended to strangers. That first time making out with the black girl in San Francisco, I spotted her out on the sidewalk and I was going to try and take her to lunch. I got much more than I had bargained for, and I am still assimilating what I learned that day.
So strip clubs are very important, but they still ought not be used for regular sexual gratification. And also, learning to ejaculate quickly is not a good thing.
You take care of yourself LDK. I believe that you will eventually find which direction you should go.
SJG
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As told to me by a dancer experienced in such places, "Don't use strip clubs for sexual gratification because that is perverted."
SJG
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