Everyday Low Pricing

I bet they see Tuesdays and 2-for-1's as loss leaders. Guys come in for those, then think of the place for bachelor parties or other occasions. Or get hooked and eventually upgrade to VIP rooms or whatever.

Bargain basement prices would eventually piss dancers off. There's something to be said for dancers not working for volume production and instead trying to get non-bargain hunters into VIP. One $300 room equals 30 dances at $10.

Are you talking about Polekatz?

Yeah, I am talking about Polekatz. Tuesday are as much a magnet for dancers as they are for customers. The dancers know customer turnout will be high and they will actually be more motivated to spend money.

When Brad's Brass Flamingo in Indianapolis was the only club offering $10 lap dances about seven years ago, they were by far the most popular and busiest club in the Circle City. They were also one of the most frequently reviewed clubs on TUSCL at that time. After they raised their private dance prices, their popularity cooled off.

I was almost certain you were talking about PoleKatz when you talked about the discount Tuesdays and the 2-for-1 hourly late night specials on weekends. They also have a 4 nude for $100 deal that almost all the girls honor that not all customers know about.

I like PoleKatz, the dances just aren't as high mileage as i want to make it a main club, even on Tuesdays. Not that ultra high mileage isn't possible with some girls, but with the open dance area that provides deterrence not just from the bouncers but also from other dancers and customers, it's just hard for dancers to get comfortable, especially on busy times like Tuesdays and weekends where they have their best lineups.

The reason that ownership/management won't just make every day like Tuesdays is because they make way more on weekends than on Tuesdays. On Tuesdays, they make a lot more than they would if they didn't have the promotion, but nothing like the weekends. Also there are customers that only come on Tuesdays like i did and do, so i don't think there is an unlimited customer base that would come if they did it everyday.

See on Tuesdays, the girls make the same amount per dance as weekends (even more if you factor the 4 for $100, where the dancer takes a discount to sell more dances) at $10 per topless dance and $20 per nude dance. They normally pay the club $10 per dance, but don't pay this on Tuesdays. So the club isn't making any money from dances on Tuesdays as opposed to weekends where they are making 1/2 to 1/3 of everything the dancers are making from dances which is substantial when you consider how many dancers and customers there are. The rent is also slightly higher i believe at $100 per shift instead of $80. The cover i think is also higher ($10 instead of $6) although they have text that waives the cover. I'm not sure how many people use the text. Finally, the CR and Ultra Lounge are very hard sells on Tuesdays. Who in their right mind is going to pay $250-$1000 for a quarter to full hour in a heavily surveillanced room when $300 will last you an hour in the chump station for similar activities? The rooms aren't that much easier to sell on weekends, but the difference isn't as drastic.

Even though the club makes a lot more money on Tuesdays from valet, paid covers (i'm not sure of the percentage of customers that pay though), drink sales, dancer rents, and the occasional rooms, making it win-win-win for owner, dancers and customers, this strategy only really works when it's used like it is currently being used. The promotion brings in new customers who might actually come during the weekends after experiencing the club. If it was every day, the club loses money from their cut of dances and lost room sales (unless they drastically cut room prices), but too many dancers will want to work every day initially diluting the dancer lineup but increasing competition and then later the average earnings will regress to the mean and dancers might try to out dirty (relatively) each other to get more money as some might do now.

I just don't see the club ever doing that, everyday low pricing. What i do wish is for every other good club to employ something like this once a week and implement it the same way. Club 390 does a similar $10/$20 promotion on Wednesdays, but the dance fee the dancers pay is only halved, not eliminated ($2.50 for topless and $5 for nude instead of $5/$10 respectively) and the dances are cut to 2 minutes or less on average instead of 3 to 3.5 minutes on most other days and times, making it slightly more economic for topless dances where the girls tend to mail it in, or slightly less economic for nude dances where the girls give similar effort and they keep more per minute as well (about $7.5 a minute compared to about $6 a minute on other days; topless dances they make about $3.5 a minute compared to about $4.5 a minute on other days). So it's just a gimmick that that doesn't really have a real benefit to anybody in the club in terms of value, just differently packaged marketing. And it's reflected by the average lineup in terms of talent and quantity (only marginally higher than other weekdays) and how busy it gets (also only marginally higher).

Atlantis has a weekend promotion where they discount dances (all dances are $30 whether the girl gets naked or not) $10 if you get two of them and some club merchandise as well about once an hour or so late in the night. The only thing i like about the promotion is that if you're already in the chump station when they announce it, it takes around 6-8 minutes for the actual promotion to start while they're playing a couple burner songs, but these songs don't count as dances while you're with a girl. But the bouncer/counter will come up to you and ask if you'll do the promotion where only an idiot would say no. I just say yes with the girl on my lap already naked, and when he goes away, we just resume as we did before essentially getting two free songs albeit a little shorter (although i do factor a tip for these), where technically, she's just supposed to stay on your lap until the actual promotion begins. When the actual promotion begins, the songs are also usually a little longer than regular songs and discounted $10 as well, so that promotion has some win in it, despite initially not sounding like much, but you need to play/time it right with the right girl.

But most clubs are either too greedy or short sighted to try something like what PoleKatz does on Tuesdays. I think Daisy Dooks in Davenport, IA does something similar on Mondays (topless dances are BOGO free) and Tuesdays ("premium" dances and rooms are BOGOF) and Southern Comfort nearby does it on Wednesdays and Thursdays (BOGO). I don't know how the fees are handled at those clubs though, probably not like PoleKatz because they still force customers to spend the same amount of money, they just get twice as much. Also Gold Club in Stone Park (the sister club of PoleKatz) also does a similar promotion, $10 dances, on Thursdays. The girls don't keep as much because regular dances (topless only, ugh) are still $30, so if the girls paid $10 a dance before keeping $20, they still have to sell twice as many dances to make as much as they do on regular days. So you can see that the girls there don't give the same effort and the top talent often doesn't show up on Thursdays and the customers aren't as interested and don't fill up the place. So you might need tiered dancing for something like this to work properly (satisfy dancer and customer and consequently owner).

Those are just my long winded observations and take on it.

at synn coi and north hills (ca) thursday is reduced dance prices. more dancers! and more customers... and no passes are accepted.

My experience with discount days is that the better dancers don’t show up, the club is packed with truly pathetic losers, and the dancers have an attitude. I avoid those days.

Bogart's has $10 Tuesdays. I have tried it a few times, but the dancers are still too ugly.

Yeah a club nearby me discounts their VIP by 25% one night a week, but it attracts the plain looking and chunky dancers... while the attractive ones will show up on the weekend.

One of my favorite clubs a long time ago used to have the 2 for 1 dances about once every hour. Some of the better looking dancers would disappear into the dressing room until they were over but not enough of them to be a big deal.

But what I learned quickly is that when dancers would come around seeking dances, I would tell them to come back when they were offering 2 for 1's. 99% of the time the dancer would tell me that she could do that right now. Which turned out to be a much better deal because during the announced 2 fers that lap dance rooms were crowded and no privacy. With more privacy mileage went up.

Yeah, another pro tip is when you have a girl available that you're likely to go 5+ songs with anyway... Take her to VIP just prior to such a promo. There will be wasted time as the DJ announces it, and girls hunt for their prey. Meanwhile, you have one to squeeze as you wait for all that to complete.

If the club is taking the loss, then it’s mot sustainable for them. If the dancers don’t give the club a cut, eventually, the most popular dancers will leave and go to the club where dances are 20 (bc they can still demand higher prices), and you wind up w a club full of 5-7s, and scrubby customers (think ppl of Walmart), and the customers who are willing to pay for the 7-10, will be at the 20 club.

^ that’s actully a decent idea. My quota for myself is half what it normally is for the first two hours, every day but Friday. I work days, but the same seems true for night shifts for some reason.

@Bj99 That's actually not how it works at that particular club (incidentally a top 40 or even a top 25 club, i don't really agree). The girls makes $20 a nude dance ($10 for a topless) no matter what day of the week. So the hottest girls (and other girls) treat Tuesdays like Fridays or Saturdays as they can sell even more dances and make even more money. Since the hottest girls work that day, a lot of customers also come and give the club money, but not from dances. The club can sustain this and still make money, but they're making money hand over fist on weekends. It is easily the busiest club in the area on weekends and like a weekend on Tuesdays. It's unreal club hopping from a meh club on Tuesday than walking into that club later that night.

I know that people like to shit all over the Admiral Theatre too, but that place also gets crazy busy on weekends (similar to PoleKatz) and i think part of it beside the hottest naked dancers in the area is also the comparatively less expensive prices. $300 an hour for dances compared to $500+ and $10 nude floor dance albeit with very little contact. The dances in the private rooms are actually comparable to PoleKatz contact with the right dancer these days. If they did a similar promotion during the week, i think they would be just as busy.

THE CLUB IS NOT TAKING A LOSS!

I am in sales and we do the same thing. For example a product we have is on “sale” 10 months of of the year. We make a certain margin that may be above our minimum but not at our maximum expectation. Those two months it’s not on sale we hit at our max margin, although we don’t sell nearly as much during those two months, we still do sell and are able to “pad” our margins a little going into the sale time.

Best part, if anyone buys during the next 10 months we can show them on paper that they are getting a “deal” because it’s on “sale” and the customer feels like they are getting special treatment. So it’s a win win. If we had it at the same lower price every month of the year, then we couldn’t tell the customer they were getting it on “sale” and then they wouldn’t think they were getting a good “deal” even though they really are.

My club charges 20 per topless dance every day. I do a lot of vips, but I’d still rather work there, than a 10.00 dance club. I also wouldn’t work at a club where they take a cut from my dances. Maybe that’s the best option in your area.

@sinclair .. Walmart benefits from econmies of scale on consumer staples... sc’ing is consumer discretionary, like airline tickets. The capacity is limited, number of clubs, number of dancers and is very liable to be dynamically priced. Everyone is fleeced for as much as they can cough up by controlling supply. There is an equilibrium between pricing and supply with respect to demand and the clubs will probably make the same (or less) if they do a blanket 2 for 1. So why choose the scare model—- I think it gives more control over both the workers ( strippers) and the customers through pricing. Another reason is no club would want to be branded as cheap, that attracts negative attention from some lowly gents, and girls would prefer to work in more upscale places where they can upsell.

@BJ99 do you pay a fixed amount per shift?

So, if you work hard and get more dances or VIPs, you make more, but club gets the same?

My club only takes a cut from vip, and I pay a flat rate to work. It’s low, but our fines for missing and being late and very high. We get to keep a lot of our money and there’s a 20 minimum on dances, and no drink hustle, so all of the girls in the area try out at this club first.