Upcharge for Topless Dances

I think that some enterprising lawyer looking to make a name for himself might go about sueing a club for pimping using that type of an up charge as an example. What do you think @JS69 ?

Where do you club? I've never had to pay extra for topless or even totally nude dances.

I’ve not yet encountered that upcharge. I think most dances where I club are supposed to be clothed. In my opinion - and if a choice is available - I’d let the girl keep her top on - and take her bottom off. I’d want to see her pussy flaps before I get dances too. If she doesn’t have a nice loose set of hanging lips - I’ll save my money...

I've only seen the upcharge for nude dances over topless ones, also 20-50% more, usually closer to 50% ($20 vs $30) sometimes 100% during discount days ($10 vs $20). If i saw a similar upcharge for topless dances, i would strongly question the value of either dance (the topless dance and the less than topless dance). I doubt the less than topless dances (bikini? or maybe pastie) are starting at $5 or $10.

You must be going to some really shitty clubs to have this type of a pricing strategy. I don't ever recall a club charging extra for topless (although a few that I don't frequent do charge extra for a nude dance). Try traveling to some better clubs.

25, I can't say much for your legal strategy. But somewhere there is an ambulance chasing correspondence school lawyer who would take the case.

The OP didn't make sense at first, but I guess it may be a regional thing where some clubs may offer cheaper bikini dances and bit more-expensive topless dances - never been to a club like that but I think I've read some reviews of clubs like that - I don't like bikini dances so as long as the topless option was a reasonable price then nothing lost IMO, but if the topless option was pricey just b/c it was topless, then I'd pass.

Usually a club is one type, either all bikini dances or all topless dances (i.e. if it's bikini then it's bikini, if if topless then it's topless, and usually not both)

Every club I've been to has no extra charges for topless or nude. The dancer may refuse to go that far without a tip but the club gets nothing extra for it.

Upcharging from what(bikini?) And how much?

I would never get a bikini dance unless there was groping allowed. Squeezing a boob is still a turn on even if the boob is inside a bikini top. Plus, once I get my fingers on her nipples (even thru a bikini top), she will soon want my fingers on her clit.

No i wouldnt pay "extra" for a topless dance from a flat chested stripper. But then if the cheapest dance is really cheap most strippers might refuse to even do them. Even the flat chested strippers.

I’ve been to multiple clubs in which this occurs

in my area, one club charges $20 for a bikini dance.

and they charge $60 for ONE topless with pasties dance. on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday the topless with pasties dances are 2 for $60

but if it’s not Monday Tuesday or Wednesday...it’s 60 dollars for ONE topless song.....with PASTIES SMH

in cali there are no topless lap dances in a topless club. it's bikini. they legally can be topless only on the stage. if you want a legal topless lap dance you visit a nude club. and prices vary. usually $20 topless $40 nude.

> A lot of clubs charge 20% to 50% more for topless dances. I think topless dances should be complimentary upon request.

I have been to a backwoods club that was $25 for topless, which was $5 extra over a regular dance and a club that charged $20 for topless and $30 for nude. In those cases, the upcharge was a good enough deal that I took it.

If you would like a club to have your preferred pricing model, you always have the option of opening one.

> Do you think it is fair that a busty girl has the opportunity to make up to 50% more per dance than a flat chested girl? Would you pay extra for a topless from a flat chested dancer?

Yes. I prefer women with smaller cup sizes, so I would get a dance with one even if her top stayed on, but especially if she were topless. I find the lack of sag or comic book-style bulbous bolt-ons to be a definite turn-on.

@GoVikings
That is highway robbery. What sucka has every paid for that? Or even $20 for a bikini dance with probably minimal contact. I would travel if i couldn't move.

@dirk

location, location, location. I’m in Richmond, Virginia. In this area, pasties are required by law.

the dance prices in many of the east coast clubs (not just Virginia, other states as well) run 10 dollars a minute. 10 minutes for 100 bucks. 15 minutes for 150 bucks and so on

^ Surely there must be some clubs that get around this. Indiana is notorious for pasties only by law, if alcohol is involved, and even so, pasties on the floor at all times too but a lot of the VIPs are genuine topless or better (wink wink) for not too much money. It's still too far for me, though so i understand the difficulties of only a few or less good clubs near you. There's nothing really good less than almost an hour away.

" 20% to 50% more for topless dances"

Anything like that, tiered skin levels by dance prices, indicates that you are in some manner of clip joint.

What really regulates the skin level is simply local laws and permit requirements.

But in some places, like Santa Clara County, club owners have been bullied by LE into signing off stage nudity prohibitions. And the County Alcohol licensing rules prohibit topless and prohibit bared asses unless on an 18" min height stage and a min 6' separation.

Now in San Francisco there are no such rules, but some places that have on stage nudity, still will have there tiered dance pricings. It is all a big joke. And it only works when the management is able to limit the number of dancers to those who will follow such rules. They convince them of a fallacy, that such rules protect their safety and maximize their earnings. Dancers with experience in wilder places no that such is completely untrue.

So what does one do?

1. Buying dances under any circumstances is a chump's game. Front room makeout session, then you invite her to the back room to continue, and then invite her to come home with you and keep seeing her regularly.

2. When they have these arbitrary prohibitions on front room friendliness, front room makeout sessions, front room nudity, then it is all the more important that you start seeing the girl outside. The only reason for buying dances would be just to flatter the girl. Paid sit and talk time would be better, and I have done this.

3. The tiered skin level for dances might not actually prohibit front room makeout sessions. Only one way of finding this out. And even in Deja Vu, I have had girls state the rule, "I don't kiss", and then demonstrably reverse themselves, and probably violate house rules, not too much time further on. But again, don't be a chump about dances, and do start seeing your girl outside.

You want the girl to be yielding to your advances, not performing paid services upon you.

4. Best always to have a safe date place lined up before you walk into the club. Maybe people could even write this in reviews? Ideal is an eating place, where you know it will be open and what the pricing and menu is like. Across the street is good. That way the girl will feel safer because she can know she can end it early if needed, and she can just park her car at the strip club, and will not need to move it. So do it with her before her shift. Line this up if she won't agree to some kind of private meeting on the shift you met her. Once you've met her at the club, you want to make stuff happen right away, and Aunt Flo's Lunar Time Table is also going to be a factor. So better a safe date the next morning, than letting Lunar Calendar time pass.

5. If she won't agree to anything, or even exchange contact info, but still seems green light, then find out when her next shift is and promise to be there at the start of it, and do so. If she is basically open to you, it should not be too hard to end up in bed with her fairly soon.

6. Talking to the girl is good. Resist the temptation to buy an ejaculation service, unless it is FS and after a makeout session. Let her see that you are saving your loads for her. If no FS and no makeout session, DATY her, in the dance booth if necessary. My experience has been that this always goes over well and really changes a girl's disposition. It will go a long way towards getting the girl between the sheets. But buying LDKing is a huge negative with the girl. Preliminary BJ, as an intro to FS is great. But BJ 'till completion is rather neutral. If you want the girl to open up to you, and not much can happen ITC, then only DATYing her and letting her understand that you want her between the sheets is your best bet.

If Aunt Flo is visiting, then maybe BJ 'till completion is the best alternative.

At the best clubs they hire as many girls as possible, without much of a looks standard, and the girls are aggressively competing with each other, and so front room aggression and friendliness are the norm. And if you are clearly extending yourself to approach a girl, that will carry immense weight. And the girls who work in such wild places are usually committed OTC providers, and so they are already doing their best to line up as many regulars as possible. They don't want to have to depend on any strip club.

Strip clubs have a huge advantage over AMPs, AAMPs, Lingerie Modelling, and Escorts, because they are hang out places and so you can engage in talk and possibly physical intimacy with your girl in the front room, that is without committing to the back room.

But strip clubs are also well oiled machines for separating marks from their money. They are not the best way of interacting with a girl, not at all. They are contrived. So you should never take the way they offer it at face value.

Only in the wildest places do you see how the girls really want to offer it, when in competition with each other. And that will be more like what is written about the TJ HK Bar. And it is written about some of the other TJ places that the girls are even more DFK aggressive.

The good news about strip clubs is that the dolled up young hotties are absolutely real. They are exactly what they look like they are. Just remember never to treat them any differently than you would treat any other women. Do not fall prey to the temptation to treat them like vending machines. If you fail at this, then they right away can turn you into a chump by selling you dances.

:) :) :)

SJG

Some of the clubs you guys go to make Burger King sound palatable. Providence has an italian heritage so the rule here is simple: topless dance $25.00; nude dance $35.00; fully nude CR $140.00; add a handjob 20 -50; add a bj 50 -100; add a fuck 15 - 300. Timing is everything and a 15 minute room with bbbjcim fit right in at halftime. Wow the dolphins suck cock.

Tiered skin levels is still a clear indicator that the place is a clip joint, as is prohibiting front room friendliness.

SJG

Upcharge for topless is pretty commonplace in Washington. Just par for the course. I go for it, within reason.

I need to get out more and get to clubs outside of this particular enclave lol

^^^ Problem is not just the excessive costs, it is the bad front room choreography which gets spoiled. It is a gimmick. The girl would be happy to do the maximum for a base price. And what makes it go well is if she can let you take the lead, and in the front room.

SJG

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