Which is worse for you booze or weed?

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joc13
7 years ago
I tried weed for the first time as an adult (at 50+) a couple weeks ago and the results were not pretty. I was stupid and tried too much.

I'll try again, cause I recovered pretty quickly and didn't have any bad after effects, like I would have had if I had been drunk to the same level of incapacity.
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RandomMember
7 years ago
Of course booze is worse for you; everyone knows that. I remember smoking weed at age 14 as a form of rebellion. Unless you're going through a second-adolescence, or you need to escape from a career that's mind-numbing boredom, I don't understand the excitement.
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Jascoi
7 years ago
i absolutely agree poolyd.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
Alcohol, Street Drugs, Born Again Christianity, and Psychiatric Medications are all pretty much the same and used for the same reasons.

SJG

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wildbourbon
7 years ago
I never tried alcohol or weed until I was in my early 30's. I smoked cigars for about two years after high school but quit when I realized I was addicted and I didn't like not being in control.

When I moved to WA, weed was legal so I finally tried it last year. I bought some edibles and followed the advice I was given to slowly dose up until you found your high. I took me a couple of tries but I found a really good high and like it much more than alcohol.

It costs about the same as getting drunk from good bourbon and although I may be tired the next day, I don't have a hangover or feel like shit like I sometimes do with alcohol. A good marijuana edible high for me lasts pretty intensely for 3-4 hours before I go to sleep and it also takes away the pain in my knees from years of basketball.

I smoked weed once this last summer but the high didn't last as long and I didn't like the cigarette-like feeling in my lungs again, plus the smoke got on my clothes.
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JohnSmith69
7 years ago
The DS introduced me to weed, and I love her for it. Joc13 PM me if you're interested in weed tips for beginners.
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ChromesClassy
7 years ago
Coming from a 21 year old...who has been 21 for 4 days....I would say alcohol. However when I did use weed I would eat it to share my lungs the negative effects. The issue with eating something is it takes awhile to take effect so you won't know if you took to much until it's already hitting you. As a recovering addict I avoid all of it but would say from a health standpoint weed is better is ingested instead of smoked. We also know a LOT more about the negative effects of alcohol then we do weed. ;)
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joc13
7 years ago
Hmm, sounds like I should investigate the edibles route. Actually, saw a news report on pot laced coffee. Two gives at one time.
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joc13
7 years ago
^^ two VICES at one time
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wildbourbon
7 years ago
I've found the best way to have edibles is to eat lunch like normal at work and not eat anything until dinner (usually between 6 and 8 PM for me. While I'm preparing dinner on an empty stomach, I enjoy 6 or 7 5 mg THC mints (30-35 mg total) and then eat after those are all gone. If I eat at 6, I know I'm going to be buzzing pretty good by 8.

My tolerance builds up really fast, so I don't usually do it more than twice per week. I make sure it's on an evening when I'm staying in for the night, usually the night after a basketball game when I know my knees are going to be a little sore.
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Hugh_G_Rection
7 years ago
If you ask me, while booze is more the drug of choice here, in the right circumstances booze and weed are mutually syncronistic in a wonderful way. :) Double your pleasure, double your fun!
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
FWIW, in the organization I am building there will be no alcohol, tobacco, street drugs, psychiatric medications, or Born Again Christianity. There really can't be, because we want the group to be cohesive and we want people to be tuned in and effective in what they do. And we want them to have long and healthy lives.

SJG

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Clubber
7 years ago
sc,

Since I was always subject to random drug testing, booze was it for me, except for a short time after my first retirement. At that time at my little part time endeavor, many Fridays after work the boss and the rest of us would do some weed and drink beer. Mostly drink beer. Never really felt the weed affected me much at all. Never used it by itself, anyway.
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Hugh_G_Rection
7 years ago
Remind me that I want NO part of SJG's organization. I'm sure I'm not alone in that sentiment.
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shadowcat
7 years ago
Clubber - I was subject to random alcohol and drug testing during the last 20+ years of my career and I probably got test about 15 times. There was a zero tolerance policy in effect. Only knew 1 guy to fail and get fired.
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Clubber
7 years ago
sc,

Can't speak for you, but it never bothered me that I could smoke. What DID bother me was having to take drug tests when a couple of AHOLES :) tail ended my company vehicle. If I hit them, no problem with a test.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
Hugh_G._Rection, don't worry, its by invitation only. We will never advertise or be soliciting to people whom we don't already know f2f. The standards will be very high.

SJG
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
Booze is much worse and this has been proven scientifically. I don't want to debate with anyone about this because it's not really debatable, but if someone wants to argue let's argue. Health wise, weed wins. Period.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
I'd be weary of pot-laced coffee. Caffeine and I are not friends, nor am I friends with any stimulant for that matter.

SJG, I mean no ill-will and I'm sure you are a great guy... but CAN YOU SHUT UP? ARE YOU CAPABLE OF SHUTTING UP, FINALLY?

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vincemichaels
7 years ago
SJG is on drugs, bad ones. He just blathers on and on. (:
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jester214
7 years ago
Nina also thinks, despite what every expert and this article state, that we've done plenty of research into marijuana.

Like most things in life, take them both in moderation and you'll probably be fine.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
Stop fuckin speaking for me. The only reason weed research has been limited the last century or so is because of yellow journalism stating blantant fallacies such as, "smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother." In the last couple decades, marijuana research has skyrocketed, and I bet about 97% of scientists would agree with "Nina" that weed is less harmful than alcohol.
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jester214
7 years ago
"Actually there has been plenty of research on marijuana throughout the last century or so."

There, I'll let you speak for yourself.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
By quoting me? Keep stalking my posts while you're at it, you weird piece of garbage.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
Now wipe your mouth Jester, you got some Nina on your lips. Bitch.
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DoctorPhil
7 years ago
@nina i know you can’t help yourself from having yet another meltdown after getting spanked yet AGAIN but snapping at jester214 like that … aren't you afraid of you know, revenge porn?
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
Who spanked me, doctorphil? Specify.

And no, definitely not afraid of revenge porn. LMAO. Aren't you like afraid of like ME? Shut up, bitch. I'll revenge-porn the fuck out of you. I'll shoot your nuts with a stick like pool balls while shoving an actual pool stick up your ass and then eat your brains for breakfast --- someone has to put em to good use.

Go fuck your cousin now. You're dismissed.
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jester214
7 years ago
So has there been plenty of research or limited research?

Look you were wrong. Throwing a little tantrum and name calling won't change that.

IMO people like you hurt legalization efforts. Get educated, really educated, not just the pro-pot propaganda that every 15 year old stoner knows. Then maybe we'll all be toking up legally in a few years.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
That's hilarious because I was actually one of the few (handful) of people who went door to door talking to strangers and actually got weed decriminalized in a suburb of Detroit. So stop right there, you misinformed, judgmental, sanctimonious asshole.
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jester214
7 years ago
I still don't see an answer to my question.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
I still see you being a punk ass bitch, though. And you had the audacity to imply that I am the reason weed is *not* legalized? I'm a pioneer of the decriminalization of weed, as I already illustrated. I've gotten weed decriminalized in an entire city. Furthermore, yet unrelated, I had calloused hands because I campaigned on election day here in MI in not one but two cities; one for my aunt, and one for my friend from high school. What have YOU done for your community? Cuz I've done a hell of a lot you worthless ho. I AM THAT BITCH, your insults don't phase me negatively. Every insult I get here is like a compliment to my wonderful heart.
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jester214
7 years ago
Another angry rant and still no answer to my question.

Unless you're a lot older than I think you are, you're not a "pioneer" for decriminalization. Seriously, get some real education on the matter.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
You're a dumbass. I AM a pioneer of getting weed decriminalized in a Detroit suburb, you FUCKING spiteful bitch. Literally went door to door to educate people on the advantages of weed, which got it on the ballot, and eventually was voted by the residents of the city (via, ya know, democracy) so it became decriminalized. You have no idea what you are talking about. Many suburbs around here have only decriminalized weed for the last few years. I'm a Michigander, this is NOT something you want to go toe to toe with me on.

Also, are you from Michigan? Did you spend your entire November 7th outside in the cold, campaigning for various people? I didn't see you, so I doubt it. Shut the fuck up, or else you're trying to know me and I guarantee you if you keep trying to know me, you will, and it won't be pretty.
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jester214
7 years ago
They decriminalized it in Ann Arbor 45 years ago, you're not a pioneer.

Another angry rant and still no answer to my question.
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ppwh
7 years ago
> Literally went door to door to educate people on the advantages of weed, which got it on the ballot, and eventually was voted by the residents of the city (via, ya know, democracy) so it became decriminalized

Nice work!
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
I didn't decriminalized it in Ann Arbor, you dumbass. And Ann Arbor is where U of M is, it's not a fucking suburb of Detroit. Get with it. Oh and by the way, the "Michigan Marijuana Law" in Ann Arbor was passed I'm 2008 and I had nothing to do with that, I was probably still in high school at the time and scared shirtless to smoke weed.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
Shitless* but you get my point. Idiot. Read above post. It's cute to see that you're googling things to find out more. Lol!
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
Ppwh - thanks. I like to be an activist for those things I believe in! I will stand in rain, sleet, or snow!
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jester214
7 years ago
I'm not sure you know what pioneer means.

More angry rants and still no answer to my question.
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ppwh
7 years ago
Who gives a fuck what pioneer means when someone is out working for our freedom? Whether she's a pioneer in a suburb or a state or a country is details.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
Thank you ppwh. Jester is nothing but a hater. I'm out here working for my communities; the surburban area of Detroit includes the tri-county area, in which Ann Arbor is NOT located --- I believe that would be Washtenaw county. Jester's dumbass can't even research correctly. Waive that white flag high, jester. Waive it to completion, bitch.
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jester214
7 years ago
Still no answer to my question.

I've spoken to a Governor about legalization, I guess I'm also a "pioneer".
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ppwh
7 years ago
> I've spoken to a Governor about legalization, I guess I'm also a "pioneer".

I think the logical fallacy here is that when you're competing to be the douchiest douchemaster, your competitors are supposed to be other men.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
Jester, quit while you're behind. You spoke to a governor --- very special. That is soooooo cool. Super cool. You SPOKE to ONE PERSON. You are great --- fantastic --- noteworthy. You did nothing of impact though, but you're like super fantastic.

Go to bed.
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jester214
7 years ago
Still no answer to my question.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
Your question is clearly moot.
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ppwh
7 years ago
I think NinaBambina is prettier. I'm sure you're not bad either, jester214, but jealousy is unbecoming.
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jester214
7 years ago
6 times later it's "moot".

Okay it's moot. Answer it.
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ppwh
7 years ago
> Okay it's moot. Answer it.

I know I'm not as pretty as Nina, but thousands of years of human use of weed is more meaningful to me than what scientists who can't differentiate what type of cells they're doing research on come up with.

IMO, a better question would be about soy which has only been in food supplies for a couple of thousand years, and in the traditional Asian diets, 2 teaspoons max per day.
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DoctorPhil
7 years ago
lol. watching a stoner try to think is too funny. what happened nina, somebody steal your munchies?
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
Nina, I'm building a world without drugs.

SJG
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ppwh
7 years ago
Weed is a plant. Propecia is a drug.
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Mate27
7 years ago
Wow!
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Mate27
7 years ago
Someone went off the rails here and thinks highly of themself. I never knew how one person could affect an entire neighborhood in such a positive way campaigning for legal weed!

Meanwhile, those of us who've got better things to do have always gotten the good shit by necessary means, all on the up and up clean way, too. Shit's real!
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
Most drugs have always been made from plants, as also is ethanol.

SJG

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DR99
7 years ago
With all the research weed is defiantly better. That said edibles and extracts take that to another level. Also with the opiate issue it's much better than what people are currently medicating with. Legalize and tax it I don't smoke weed, but I do live in Michigan and would vote to complete legalization. The anti weed PR about it being a gateway drug is finally ending.
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ppwh
7 years ago
> Most drugs have always been made from plants, as also is ethanol.

Made from plants vs. is a plant are two different things.

Coca is a plant that has been safely used since prehistoric times. Cocaine will likely give you a heart attack, fuck up your nose and drive you to steal shit.
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NinaBambina
7 years ago
^truth.

And who said some smart ass remark about me running out munchies? Wtf kind of insult is that? Of course I don't run out of munchies. Last night before I smoked, I went the 7/11 and got some spicy pickles, then to the Filipino market and got 6 packs of instant Pancit Canton and two packs of Pocky.
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