OTC > ITC in my humble opinion
larryfisherman
California
To you guys that have never done OTC before, why is that?
A. It cost too much money
B. You don't want to see strippers OTC/ you like to keep everything ITC
C. You don't know how to ask for OTC
D. You're not a extras guy or girl (Lopaw), maybe you have a girlfriend or wife. You're just there for good dances ITC, so of course you don't want to fuck then OTC
E. Other
For me in the beginning I would have fun just getting good dances, then one night a stripper pulled my pants down and sucked my dick, so then I knew you could fuck in the club ITC depending on the club and the girl. I didn't really like the thought of fucking ITC because of all the people in close proximity of you, the small place you had to fuck, the possibility of a bouncer checking in, and the time limit.
Then one day a girl suggested OTC and I was hooked. I realized that the girls weren't gonna be offended if you ask for OTC. Of course not all of them are gonna say yes, but more will say yes than you think. I like OTC because of the privacy, bigger space, and the extended time limit (sometimes no time limit). What I will say though is OTC can get real expensive if you're fucking more than five girls regularly OTC (of course depending on how much you make too). I try to keep my OTC down to two (max three) girls at one time.
To those that enjoy ITC and OTC, would you say OTC > ITC, or ITC > OTC?
A. It cost too much money
B. You don't want to see strippers OTC/ you like to keep everything ITC
C. You don't know how to ask for OTC
D. You're not a extras guy or girl (Lopaw), maybe you have a girlfriend or wife. You're just there for good dances ITC, so of course you don't want to fuck then OTC
E. Other
For me in the beginning I would have fun just getting good dances, then one night a stripper pulled my pants down and sucked my dick, so then I knew you could fuck in the club ITC depending on the club and the girl. I didn't really like the thought of fucking ITC because of all the people in close proximity of you, the small place you had to fuck, the possibility of a bouncer checking in, and the time limit.
Then one day a girl suggested OTC and I was hooked. I realized that the girls weren't gonna be offended if you ask for OTC. Of course not all of them are gonna say yes, but more will say yes than you think. I like OTC because of the privacy, bigger space, and the extended time limit (sometimes no time limit). What I will say though is OTC can get real expensive if you're fucking more than five girls regularly OTC (of course depending on how much you make too). I try to keep my OTC down to two (max three) girls at one time.
To those that enjoy ITC and OTC, would you say OTC > ITC, or ITC > OTC?
Got something to say?
Start your own discussion
35 comments
An E. answer might be that you don't want to see the same girl ITC after you've seen her OTC although that's probably not a big deal for most TUSCLers that OTC.
An F. answer might be that you like a lot of variety and spread the wealth on shorter, less expensive sessions with multiple girls for as much mileage/contact/extras you can get.
(AMP) (greater than) (backpage heroin addict)
(reviewed escort) (greater than) (AMP)
(ITC) (greater than) (reviewed escort)
(otc) (greater than) (itc)
(cute responsible college girl)(greater than) (otc)
(consensual UNPAID sex) (much greater than)(anything else)
LMAO
I admit the calculus changes if you have CEO stress, with CEO family, and CEO wages. The calculus also changes if your kids are grown, the wife's gone, and you're just DONE with LTRs. Or if you have a lifetime of savings and thrift.
Some of you agreeing with RM might not know what this particular lines means. Obviously, RM have a friendly disagreement on this one -- for me, OTC is the single best experience in the sex industry, RM has found better experiences on Seeking Arrangements. And SA or similar site is what RM means here: an arrangement site is basically the one way you could be having for-pay sex with a responsible college girl. BTW, I don't think either RM or I are necessarily right or wrong, I think we're just valuing different experiences.
I am on SA and continue to be on SA, and enjoy it. But for what I'm looking for, OTC remains the pinnacle of sex experiences. You can read my detailed discussion of my experiences over in the article section https://www.tuscl.net/?page=post&id=5049…
But the FRAT here for me (and BTW, this might be highly geography/locality specific) is:
1. The best looking, most-fun girls on SA are strippers and ex-strippers
2. Engaging with the girls referenced in #1 is more like OTC than a proper arrangement
3. The "cute college girls" in affordable ranges (less than $1500/month allowance) are nowhere near as hot as strippers and nowhere near as sexually blow-your-mind as strippers
4. The guys spending $3000+/month seems to be getting it all, stripper hot (or better) responsible civilians, etc. But that's not a price range I'm interested in.
So, for me at least, OTC much much greater than college-girl on SA. OTC roughly equal to stripper or ex-stripper on SA.
"OTC is IMO the crowning achievement of the sex industry"
Subra has a way of saying things better than you can could ever say it.
@Random- I know we throw jabs at each at each other every now and then, but you have me given some good advice on saving my money while in my 20's. It's up to me to follow your advice.
OTC requires a degree of forethought and planning (at least in my home city where I wouldn't already be in a hotel). Plus, I mildly worry about a girl showing up where I am with her boyfriend/pimp.
I'm not a fan of ITC for obvious reasons, and there are a couple girls I'm considering for OTC, so may take the plunge yet. I'll probably wonder why I waited so long...
AMP girls offered OTC, and in a very open ended way. As I saw it, the girl was offering to become my mistress. It would not be like FS in the shop, it would be more involved, and hence more risky. ANd then the repeated visits would have a substantial cost. So I decided against it. Needed to maintain some level of personal integrity or it would make my marriage worse.
With the strippers, our clubs are softer core, so less of the girls do that. Of those that do, I still felt it was going too far, and also it would bring me into the girl's outside life, and that could multiply the risks.
SJG
Hard, though not impossible, to replicate this OTC, or on subsequent visits.
SJG
But BBBJ while driving?
SJG
I still would not go for BBBJ while driving.
But definitely full GFE and overnight sessions with this girl.
:) :) :)
SJG
--------------------
Friendly? I've been fuming about this disagreement for months and have been planning to track you down and firebomb your community. *kidding* you make a lot of good points. However, my experience with OTC strippers includes:
(1) stripper taking condom off during sex
(2) pregnancy extortion attempt
(3) Contracting chlamydia
(4) Stripper tag-team at my house (one out in car unbeknownst to me, with the other in my guest room)
(5) General flaky behavior
(6) Ghosting and reappearing when money was needed
(7) Impossibly entitled behavior.
I've had much better luck online with really great students. To each his own.
@FishStix: Nice post. Most of us envy your youth -- so don't waste it all on strippers.
:)
SJG
@ironman- once you're doing OTC with a girl I don't think there needs to be a big commitment ITC. With a couple of girls I have OTCed with, I was seeing them ITC on average once a week, then once I started OTC with them, I only visited them in the club once a month or even longer, they were fine with it. One girl I used to visit ITC regularly, when we started OTCing, I stopped seeing her ITC completely.
Both these girls sound like they are worth their weight in gold.
And to think, this board is still loaded up with LDK idiots, like SirLapDanceAlot.
We have talked much recently about DFKing. As you have described them, I don't think either of your two black girls would have been averse to kissing, not if you wanted to slow it down a bit by talking to them and letting it intensify it.
SJG
Mystery Of The Sphinx Egypt, Atlantis, & Mars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc_S-4jl…
McLaren 570 or 540. Guy around me has one. I had not known what it was. Of course it has no back seat, but its about the same size as a 911. Not real wide and big like the highest power Lamborgini's.
They say the cars go for about $180k. Nice! 3.8L supercharged V8. 560hp.
http://cars.mclaren.com/sports-series/57…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_57…
http://loanpride.com/jaw-dropping-celebr…
It's not just your opinion, it's a fact according to Excel.
OTC >> ITC.
Yes, obv.