Manager told us to cut it out
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Explosion in my pants
Last week when getting a very good enthusiastic grind from my CF the manager came over and told us in a pretty loud tone that she "should stop dry humping the shit out of him, go to VIP!"
She was super embarrassed and I was dumbfounded. I've been going there for a year and I know she's been working there close to two years. I figured we both knew what's allowed and what isn't. Never an issue before. So she basically air dances for the last song and I leave.
I spent the week wondering if I might have to ditch that club for another where I know it's not an issue. I really like my CF though.
This week I show up and she explains "don't worry, we're good. One of the other girls saw us and complained to manager and the manager told me I'm fine, he just made a spectacle for the other girl's benefit."
She was still nervous this time because the manager was in the dance area when he normally isn't. After a couple initial air dance songs she danced how I like.
Have any of you had management pretend to care?
She was super embarrassed and I was dumbfounded. I've been going there for a year and I know she's been working there close to two years. I figured we both knew what's allowed and what isn't. Never an issue before. So she basically air dances for the last song and I leave.
I spent the week wondering if I might have to ditch that club for another where I know it's not an issue. I really like my CF though.
This week I show up and she explains "don't worry, we're good. One of the other girls saw us and complained to manager and the manager told me I'm fine, he just made a spectacle for the other girl's benefit."
She was still nervous this time because the manager was in the dance area when he normally isn't. After a couple initial air dance songs she danced how I like.
Have any of you had management pretend to care?
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That's why I like to avoid clubs that have VIP. No faculty/room fees then!
It's the same rationale why clubs don't like front room friendliness! They want the cut of the dance fees.
Personally I think if the dancer pays her stage fee / house fee then she would be left alone and she can make her money as she sees fit. Not all owners and mgrs agree though.
I used to be like Subraman and try to maintain sight lines with managers and bouncers, so we could bend rules. I pretty much had to as they'd stop you if she was grinding, making out with you, or if you were touching the dancer. They were/are pretty strict. So I get where you are coming from.
It is odd if they would be that nosy in the back room - but I’ve seen some places crack down on contact after local LE increases operations.
The law is of course the same in the front room as it is in the back room.
So if you encounter a club which is simply trying to push things like makeout sessions into the back room, avoid that club because it is a clip joint, separating marks from their money.
If you want a good interaction with the girl, it needs to be front room, because then there are no standing obligations about money or time, and because you can lead it.
Lap dancing used to mean lap sitting. What else went with that varied widely.
SJG
The irony of it was that manager routinely pimped out dancers OTC and ITC. He was notorious for it. I think he knew I had seen a couple of the dancers OTC unpaid over the past year or 2 and he didn’t take kindly to it.
I don't see the irony - neither him nor the club is getting their cut if dancers/waitresses and custies hook-up OTC on their own accord
If it is out on the floor, than yes, you need to take it to a back room, doesn't need to be the VIP but some place with more privacy.
However, what also goes on and I don't see much comment on here about the topic is bouncers, staff, etc that have a thing for one or more of the girls and it plays right into the same dynamic of why a BF shouldn't be hanging in the club either ( recent conversation)
I quit clubbing a number of years ago because I saw a few incidents where guys (staff) had way too much ability to try and force themselves on the dancers by controlling their actions to make money.
The one incident I had at CH I suspected that was the case. So did the dancer I later found out. Even with his barging in-- the next dance she went right on grinding although I let my hands drop to my sides at that point.
Those stings can force more girls to go otc - which actually increases prostitution.
San Francisco authorities allow a lot of extras and such in their strip clubs precisely because they don't want street prostitution. Illegal club activities are the lesser of two evils compared to street hooking in their eyes.
It can take a long time for the effects of a LE sting to wear off. It can turn a go to club into an empty bar very quickly. It hurts the dancers, the staff and management too.
But the club itself paid the reputation price. Hard. Before the sting it was one of the better high end gentlemen's clubs and popular. It had a lot of hot dancers too. Then the sting happened, the local media was all over it and associating it with the club. And then very quickly things went downhill from there. It basically became a dive with the decor being a gentleman's club. But dancer quality dropped off hard and also customers avoided the place. Then eventually it closed in less than a year.
It was nice to a while for the sister clubs of the chain because some of the dancers transferred to them, but again on the flip side the owners increased the monitoring and enforced a bunch of LD and contact rules which also drove customers like me away for a time.
The entire sting just decimated the club and it had a ripple effect on the chain.