Sex is Cheap (for Men)

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LecherousMonk
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This article is about traditional dating, not mongering, but I'd be interested to see the PL perspective on it. Basic premises: Men don't have to provide very many financial or emotional resources to get sex anymore, so women are suffering. Proposed solution: return to older, more conservative mating conventions. http://www.theamericanconservative.com/a…

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RandomMember
7 years ago
Just skimmed the article and did a little research. "TheAmericanConservative" has Pat Buchanan as a co-founder and was endorsed by David Brooks -- so it probably attracts a bunch of dipshit Libertarians. The notion that "women are suffering" because "sex is cheap" is the sort of non-feminist horseshit you'd expect on a site like TUSCL. The reality is that there's more and more parity between women and men in the workplace and women don't need men to take care of them financially. This whole notion that marriage is for women who need to be taken care of is hopelessly outdated.

It's gotten very, very, easy to find high-quality paid sexual encounters online; finding an SO whom you connect with is about the same difficulty, as it was 30 yrs ago.
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ppwh
7 years ago
I don't think it has ever been too difficult for dominant males to get sex. The difference now is that the others can get laid mostly because they took a decent selfie. "Returning to traditional etc etc etc" sounds great, but the more likely scenario is that the cucks buy into that idea of expensive sex while their wives keep hooking up with more dominant men. IMO, the real solution is for men to become more masculine.
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LecherousMonk
7 years ago
"It's gotten very, very, easy to find high-quality paid sexual encounters online; finding an SO whom you connect with is about the same difficulty, as it was 30 yrs ago."

. . . And men benefit more from that situation because A) they have higher sex drives, B) they don't value emotional commitment as highly, C) they can't give birth, D) they don't have biological clocks, or so goes the argument.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
Yes, don't read right wing media stuff.

SJG
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Dougster
7 years ago
Actually I've heard a similar argument from that if sex gets too easy for men they aren't motivated to achieve and compete, and it's bad for the society overall. But I'm not sure about that. IMO, there would always be competition for the top women.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
^^^^^^ Again, that type of stuff comes from Right Wing authors.

SJG
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LecherousMonk
7 years ago
Psychologists tell us food and sex are our two strongest motivations. One can imagine that in the distant evolutionary past, men traded food for sex from women, a practice which more or less continued in every society on the face of the earth for 99.99% of human history (money is just a proxy for the things it buys, such as food). It seems self-evident that when such a deeply rooted system is overturned, it would cause all sorts of disruptions.
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Dougster
7 years ago
@SJG: Actually it was a Liberal professor talking about black men in particular (he was thinking specifically about the low life expectancy of black men in America). But it should apply across the board if true. Like I say, though, I think men will always compete for the top women who are not hookers.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
That is pseudo science. Trading food for sex? Consider the social context?

I mean if you have food and you have a woman, of course you are not going to let her starve. But this is still a long way from this market place idea of trading food for sex.

SJG
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Dougster
7 years ago
I bet there are some who would say their marriage was trading food sex in the beginning, but then turned into food for no sex.
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san_jose_guy
7 years ago
So Dougster, you believe this kind of neo-Ayn Rand stuff too?

SJG
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jackslash
7 years ago
Sex is cheap? Not at the strip clubs I frequent.
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Dougster
7 years ago
@SJG: your head is full of rocks.
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Book Guy
7 years ago
If a woman's sex drive is weaker than a man's then why does an average woman go out and get laid whenever she wants but an average man doesn't? Forget all that Desmond Morris crap. Does he look like he gets laid regularly?
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twentyfive
7 years ago
I think that what @RandomMember said is correct and not just paid sex but dominant males never really think about this very much. Truth be told women have become more discrinating as their options have expanded, so I'd say if you aren't getting what you need you should take a good hard look at yourself from a females perspective.
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JuiceBox69
7 years ago
My money is long like magic Mike

My dick is short like Donald Duck
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LecherousMonk
7 years ago
Book Guy, thanks for the Desmond Morris name drop. Now I have another book to read.
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Dominic77
7 years ago
@jack, funny. But in all seriousness doesn't @rickdugan say that paid sex is one of the better deals, cost-wise? It think it does it one considers a trophy wife as the option, which is really the highest cost sex option. But your joke still stands.

"but dominant males never really think about this very much. .... if you aren't getting what you need you should take a good hard look at yourself from a females perspective."

^^^ twentyfive brings up a good point for self reflection for anyone not getting what he or she wants from civvie world.
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