Read in a club review that a dancer sat with a PL and after a few minutes gave the full menu available in the vip. The reviewer said that that was a red flag for him. Pm him but no response. Can anyone explain why that is a red flag? I have been going to SC for more than 30 years and have always enjoyed knowing what's available up front.
For whatever reason it sounds like the PL who wrote the review is overly paranoid. Every good restaurant has a clear menu. A strip club should be no different.
Several years ago I had a dancer at the Columbia Platinum Plus, a top less club, give me a complete menu for dances in the couch room. Prices ranged from $20-$250. One item was a totally nude dance. I don't know how she could do that in a semi private dance room. I declined everything.
Found out later that she had gotten kicked out of the Greenville PP for doing extras ITC.
Maybe the reviewer is the type that does not like the high-volume extras type. If they are very open to quickly tell you what is on the menu with pricing, it may be seen as a sign that they've already serviced a ton of customers that day. I can see why that may be a turn-off for some.
For some they may prefer the type that do have extras on their menu, but only discuss it when the customer asks about it, as they would tend to be low-volume, giving the customer the possibility of being the first to get acces on that particular shift. Seeing how some customers may not know extras are a possibility, some dancers will try to make as much as they can from clean dances, doing as few extras as possible.
Of course for me, I would not really care either way. The only time I may not have interest is if I actually saw them leave the VIP with a customer or take a customer to the VIP.
Maybe given the context, he suspected a ROB who would say whatever she thought he wanted to hear and deliver none of it. He may also have a preference for a bit more build-up, too, to get a bit more mutually comfortable with one another and feel as though their interaction is a bit less mercenary.
To put it in Myers-Briggs terms, I think guys who are more on the S (sensate) side would probably prefer to work out a menu beforehand, where guys on the N (intuitive) side would prefer it to be played out in the moment. That could all just be crazy talk, though. Jung always seemed a bit strange to me.
OTOH, the reviewer could just be afraid of a LEO trap. There are a lot of very unlikely "cops will arrest you" stories out there and the reviewer may have heard one or conflated escort sting tactics with strip club extras.
The LE trap fear could be it, too, or the fear of STDs, but I bet if she sat and SSed him more and gave him that lovey feeling, he wouldn't have been thinking about everything that could possibly go wrong.
While I don't always consider it a "red flag" if a girl comes right out and offers extras, there have been a few times I've run into ROBs when that's happened. That has usually been when a girl comes up to me without any pre chit chat, and before any drinks.
If I've been sitting with a girl for a bit, and we've had a couple drinks and I feel we have a bit of chemistry going on in the conversation and body language, then I'm less hesitant with an offered up menu.
There's a way to do it and a way to not do it. The girls who are a bit more seductive about it are the ones I lie.
Didn't read the review, but agree with some of the comments above. When some girls do their menu recitation, particularly without being prompted, it can come off as incredibly dispassionate, impersonal, and mechanical ... and as often as not, her delivery will be exactly the same way. Context is everything, I can imagine plenty of ways a stripper can tell me her menu without me asking, in ways that not only are not turn-offs, but are outright turn-ons. But most of the time, that's not the way it is
I rarely get menu up front girls. In the limited experience with them, while they do deliver the services as promised, it tends to be a very mechanical, paint-by-the-numbers experience. I much prefer having my VIP mileage increase organically, or not, depending upon the dancer and our mutual experience together. Those tend to be much more satisfying and enjoyable (for both parties).
For instance, a current favorite and I went to VIP recently. The first thing she did was say, "Hold my gum for me" while she stuck her tongue down my throat" and delivered her gum directly. We started off with light kissing, followed by some hot and heavy DFK'ing, followed by me trying to see how much of her boobs I could inhale. She then climbed up on my shoulders and I went to town on her pussy for an entire song. She finished up top, unzipped me and gave a lovely slow BBBJTC, then spit out the residue into a napkin. We both cleaned up, I gave her the gum back, and paid her $180 for the 3 floor dances, the VIP dances and tip (she never counts what I give her, which is how most dancers I deal with are). She thanked me, kiss on the cheek, hug, and we both moved on to others. A far superior experience, IMO.
But what you do in such a case is get front room friendly with her.
With the civvies you speed them up, get them out of their comfort zone. With the pros you slow them down, not be resisting, but by increasing the intensity. So you are actually speeding up and expanded kind of encounter.
So the more forward the girls are with you, then usually the more forward you can be with them.
So if the girl is engaging with you and telling you about all that can happen, you intensify it, and also get physically friendly with her. So when you have this happening and a front room makeout session is underway, then you invite her to the back room to proceed with all she has said is possible. And then take her home with you to continue and keep seeing her regularly.
Didn't see that review. If that offer was wildly out of context for that particular club, then the review has every right to be suspicious. Follies and Detroit are the anomalies not the rule.
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Found out later that she had gotten kicked out of the Greenville PP for doing extras ITC.
For some they may prefer the type that do have extras on their menu, but only discuss it when the customer asks about it, as they would tend to be low-volume, giving the customer the possibility of being the first to get acces on that particular shift. Seeing how some customers may not know extras are a possibility, some dancers will try to make as much as they can from clean dances, doing as few extras as possible.
Of course for me, I would not really care either way. The only time I may not have interest is if I actually saw them leave the VIP with a customer or take a customer to the VIP.
If I've been sitting with a girl for a bit, and we've had a couple drinks and I feel we have a bit of chemistry going on in the conversation and body language, then I'm less hesitant with an offered up menu.
There's a way to do it and a way to not do it. The girls who are a bit more seductive about it are the ones I lie.
For instance, a current favorite and I went to VIP recently. The first thing she did was say, "Hold my gum for me" while she stuck her tongue down my throat" and delivered her gum directly. We started off with light kissing, followed by some hot and heavy DFK'ing, followed by me trying to see how much of her boobs I could inhale. She then climbed up on my shoulders and I went to town on her pussy for an entire song. She finished up top, unzipped me and gave a lovely slow BBBJTC, then spit out the residue into a napkin. We both cleaned up, I gave her the gum back, and paid her $180 for the 3 floor dances, the VIP dances and tip (she never counts what I give her, which is how most dancers I deal with are). She thanked me, kiss on the cheek, hug, and we both moved on to others. A far superior experience, IMO.
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But what you do in such a case is get front room friendly with her.
With the civvies you speed them up, get them out of their comfort zone. With the pros you slow them down, not be resisting, but by increasing the intensity. So you are actually speeding up and expanded kind of encounter.
So the more forward the girls are with you, then usually the more forward you can be with them.
So if the girl is engaging with you and telling you about all that can happen, you intensify it, and also get physically friendly with her. So when you have this happening and a front room makeout session is underway, then you invite her to the back room to proceed with all she has said is possible. And then take her home with you to continue and keep seeing her regularly.
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