OT: Turbos ?
Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
Seems a lot of car-manufacturers are going to smaller turbo-charged engines in order to get good fuel mileage but still have performance (seems V6's are getting faced out).
I recall back in the day turbos were kinda "tempermental" for lack of a better word - I also had heard they did not do well in hot climates like Miami although this may have applied to technology back in the day.
Any thoughts on turbo-charged engine technology?
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My concern is mostly reliability since again back in the day the turbos seemed to be tempermental - I often tend to keep my cars for up to 10 years and would have reservations doing so w/ that type of seemingly more complicated type engine
Maybe they used to be finickie, but they work well now. And there are plenty of V6's, just in larger cars that used to have V8's.
The Ford Focus RS is 4 cylinders 2.3 liters and 350hp. And I think they offer that in Mustangs too.
As far as it being two turbo's or just one big one, or even 4 turbos, it depends on the exhaust system design. Usually a V engine needs at least two turbos. But some V8's and V12's even have 4 turbos.
Anyway, I'll do just fine with my FIAT nuevo 500. I'll be driving along and then I'll see something closing on me in the rear view mirror. It blasts past me, not much sound though because it's quiet and comfortable. And I realize that its Twentyfive, his four doors blowing off my two doors.
But for the rest of us, without as much disposable as 25 has, we can still get non-turbo cars. About that hot weather issue, I would read what people are writing about that.
And for some time now, most cars have given up their anti-knock margin. So they have higher compression and totally depend on the anti-knock sensor notifying the computer, no matter what type of fuel they say to use. I would read up on that pertaining to the hot weather too. Power per liter levels have gone way up, but this does not mean that all reliability problems have been eliminated.
SJG
SJG
Punched a 911 Twin Turbo and you could feel your organs pressed against your spine.
$143k
http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/91…
SJG
lower than most of you current muscle cars.
SJG
http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/911/91…
SJG
So today, with the turbo, you can say that you are getting the power which used to be available with rich mixture. But those rich mixtures were long ago.
Rich mixtures mean unburned hydrocarbons and carbonmonixide. But doing that give the engine the cherry part of the reaction, so it makes more power. Today instead, the turbo give you more air, so you can also burn more fuel, but keeping it stochiometric.
SJG
We'll see, but it'll be fun to watch.
Love modern turbos, while we have them!
Germany has also supposedly banned all ICE by the year 2030, as has France, which is 150 million people. Norway, admittedly a small country, supposedly already has 55 percent of its cars on the road are EV.
That means alot is happening in the future of EV.
Here is an article about this subject material.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=…
We're witnessing history.
Interesting that the end of ICEs is slated to occur about the time nearly all vehicles will be able to be self-driving. (And also when Kurzweil is saying we'll have machines first able to pass Turing tests.)
All part of the convergence on the Singularity and the greatest economic boom in world history!
Yeah, hopefully the cost of solar will come way down. Coal is really cheap in certain parts of the country -- but burning coal to generate electricity for cars is worse for the environment than ICEs. Trump wants to cut funding for renewables at the DOE by 70% which makes perfect sense. And the G20 stance on climate change is now (G19 + Trump). But eventually he will drop dead or get impeached.
Volvo is a minor, minor, player across the globe........ take a look at the facts here:
http://driving.ca/toyota/auto-news/news/…
All that being said, I love modern day turbos, especially with the more elegant transmissions. No longer need the expensive dual clutch transformations to combine them with the new generation turbos.
@ RandomMember there has been increasing electricity production and capacity will continue to expand with demand.
It's simply old technology with recurring issues (150,000 RPM fan can only last so long).
If you want the kick of a turbo - opt for "super charger" instead. More reliable.
That said - I agree EV will be the technology of future and I have the low-end Tesla on order.
Super charger gets its power directly from the crankcase.
https://youtu.be/fHRX3Uzppv4
TESLA'S ELON MUSK SAYS REGULAR CARS WILL BE LIKE HORSES IN 20 YEARS.
https://evannex.com/blogs/news/teslas-el…
http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/05/technolo…