Does it still count as LDK if the girl has her hand down your shorts?
I was at my favorite stand up spot in Follies and a girl came over when she saw me laughing, cause her and I were both on our phones and for some reason I thought it was funny.
Any way, we start hugging and dancing and she's rubbing me through my shorts and says "you have good cum control". I figured this was SS designed to start VIP pitch, but then she goes on to explain that earlier she was dancing for a guy and hadn't even started rubbing on him yet and he came in his pants. She said it was creepy that he came so quick.
I told her I had never cum in my pants in a SC (not PL shit; actually true) but that if she kept doing what she was doing that might change. She took this as a challenge, put her hand in my shorts, and in 5 songs managed to initiate me into the LDK club. But, is it really an LDK the way she did it?
Her time with me finished off her money for the day (and mine - this was a "damn traffic sucks" impulse visit, so I went in with what I happened to have on me), so she kissed me goodbye and headed for the locker room.
While I was standing there finishing off my mostly free beer (she finally explained the "2 dances for $20 and get a drink" special to me), two girls came up and introduced themselves and made an offer for a 2 girl BJ and fuck session in VIP for standard Follies rates (50 room, 100 each girl) This was the most directly I've ever been propositioned in Follies (First #2). I told em I was interested (they were pretty cute), but was about to leave (I had no more money). The response was "Could we convince you to stay if we sweeten the deal?" (First #3. Never had a dancer offer to negotiate down before.) I thought about seeing what they would propose, but I didn't want to chance letting jocJr talk me into a bad decision with the club ATM. Since I might want to explore the option at a later time, I asked "is there an easy way I can find out when you'll be working next?" which usually results in a phone number. Then I experienced First #4 as neither one had a phone on them and neither one offered up a number for me to put in my phone.
And before SJG cries hypocrisy!, just because I wouldn't want behavior like this to occur in MY ideal club, it doesn't mean I won't occasionally pop into someone else's club to get a cheap thrill. And, no, I would not eat food while I'm in this place.


I would say no. Even though you came in your pants, it was via a HJ. To me a LDK is cumming in your pants via grinding over the pants.