ATF Leaving To Another State

You're fucking up.

The two most important rules of strip-clubbing are:

1. Don't fall in-love with a stripper

2. Don't forget rule #1

Dude, many of us feel your pain -- but she's moving away and it's not meant to be!

Also, what Papi said: Don't ever fall in love with a stripper!

Take it from someone who knows all too well . . .

Just so we're on the same page - are you wanting to see this girl OTC like a regular date or P4P?

You seem to be the classic RIL (not a good thing)

Be glad she is gone. Always. Always, there will be another one to take her place.

Hopefully, she didn't take you for too much money.

Road trip. :)

Papi: I didn't fall in love on purpose just happened when I least expected, otc as in p2p date, p4p just for company

Shadowcat: I don't mind road trip but she not willing to do otc

Warhawks: thx for your encouragement, I kind of have sour taste for the whole SC thing now, maybe in future I will try again

Mrdeuce: just read your article, seems like we fell for someone that we thought was special but then got burned

When she pulls back (e.g., not sharing her upcoming schedule or texting you when she's going to the club), that's a sign to pull back, too. It's a bad thing if she feels like easily backing away isn't an option.

yeah, don't beat yourself up too much about it. even though its just a paid relationship, once you start seeing a stripper over and over, as silly as it sounds you can start to gain some feelings for her. you aren't the first and you won't be the last.

Ppwh: thx for the advice, I did actually pull way back after getting the cold shoulders, I did find out the reasons last time I seen her, i think it's just the way she conducts business, very unconventional

Govikings: thx, turning into a PL is not exactly something I am proud of, definitely put this experience in my life lessons for sure

@Dman12345 Turning into a PL is exactly what you need to do, if you want to continue this hobby. This girl saw you coming a mile away and ran a typical stripper scam on you. If you were a PL you would have recognized it right away and nipped it in the bud. Stick around and learn and soon you too, can be a PL with all of the tights and privileges that we have.

Dman12345 I understand your infatuation, it happens to most (if not all) of us.

Here's what I have found in my experience. There's a girl I like, and I want to meet OTC, really let's just say what it is - I want to fuck this girl and I can't do it in the club so I have to meet her outside the club. If she's not responsive after a month or so of me trying, I move on, because it's probably not going to happen. The reason it's not going to happen? I'm not spending enough money or offering enough money for OTC, she's creeped out by me for some odd reason, or she's one of those strippers who just doesn't do OTC.

You talk to 10 strippers inside a club at least 1 of them is going to do OTC, then she has the potential to become your ATF!!!

Full fledged RIL. Been there.

Consider yourself lucky that she is moving away before you get Dadillaced.

"Dadillaced"

Lol, that was clever

I was you 5 months ago. Almost identical, fell for stripper, went OTC once and only dinner, always dances from her whenever visit club. Except she quit and cut all contact.

I know it may not seem like it now, but you'll find another eventually, trust me. You also will not fall as hard next time.

It does suck that this happens, but you will grow from this experience. One thing that may help out a lot is to limit your visits to the club, and instead occupy your time with other things that will make you too busy to even think about the situation. Don't go to the club more than once a month. When you have a gap of at least a month in between visits, it will keep your emotions in check and significantly reduce the possibility of becoming a RIL. At least this is what works for me. I honestly never have been a RIL. I have been aware of what the signs are of becoming a RIL, even before I started posting on this forum. After a visit to a club, if I realize I behaved a lot differently towards a particular dancer than I typically do towards the others in the club, I will access the situation and think about what might happen if I let it continue. If I think I could become a RIL, I will spend some extended time away from the club and return when I know I have my emotions in check. By doing this, I don't fall into the trap of being a RIL, and I enjoy future visits to the club, whether it be with the same dancer or a different one. Always let the bigger head do the thinking. Recognize a few warning signs early on and take proper action. If you don't, it will only escalate into becoming a RIL, and that is not good for you or for her.

Dang, you guys gave good advice, i will definitely try to not visit at least more than once a month to see how my emotions checks out, i guess i hate to admitted but i'm RIL, hopefully i learn my lesson this time and not repeat again

LOL "Dadillaced" should be in the TUSCL glossary

A strip-club is not the place to go "looking for love" nor find a love-interest; 99% of the time you will get burned especially if you don't know how the game is.

Most of these girls already have BFs and at the same time try to juggle a couple of PLs/RILs OTC - most of them are unreliable and many of them their lives are upside-down meaning you don't wanna walk into that tornado especially if you don't know that this is often the case (that you are dealing w/ a tornado even if the skies seem clear).

You are doing the equivalent of sky-diving w/o any experience except dealing w/ strippers OTC w/o any experience is more dangerous - don't try to handle a snake if you are not an experienced snake-handler; you're gonna get bitten and perhaps poisoned.

Lol Papi says "don't look for love in strip clubs."

But there we are in our PL glory. Drinking (aka) becoming inebriated, hot girls probably hotter than what any of us see in an average day in public, walking around in lingerie and even in some clubs totally nude, saying nice things to us, inflating our egos making us feel important even though we know it's just a ploy to separate us from our money - but we still fall for it... after all that how can we not fall in love once in awhile?

When $$$ is being exchanged, I get the feeling dancers feel "love" much less often than PLs even though most of these PLs think/feel their dancer relationship is different

I think where a lot of PL's become RIL's is the fact that the dancers will usually be very friendly and receptive to their company ITC simply based on the fact that money is being exchanged. They will keep this relationship active during future club visits simply in a business sense of the typical dancer/customer situation. This is provided that the customer does not come across as being creepy, needy or emotionally unstable. Just like civilian women, dancers will keep their distance and ignore customers that have issues. Because dancers are women, they are very good at spotting it, sometimes just by looking at a customer's facial expression. Believe it or not, if you come across as being creepy, needy or emotionally unstable, a dancer will usually have no interest in spending time with you even though you do have money to spend on her. Now, if you remove money from the situation completely, the dancer would never even give the customer the time of day. That is how you know that you need to be careful and not become a RIL. I am not saying it is 100% possible to avoid it, but it is a lot easier if you always remember it is only about the money.

I second or third the nomination of Dadilaced to be added to the glossary

I'm ok with the term Daddillaced as long as I get some royalties off that shit.... it cost me a small fortune lol.

Seriously though, if it helps one guy to not blow that much cash then it's worth it.

I should have added that caveat as long as Dadillac is ok with it )