Where are all the Eastern Eurorean "Dancers" coming from?

Most likely pushed out from Manhattan. The younger, hotter girls get the primetime slots

Maybe they got kicked out of the sanctuary cities , )

Pushed out of Manhattan??? Scluva6969, Manhattan is in NYC. And the top Manhattan clubs are full of these Eastern Euros to the point where clubs are happy when girls audition who are American and can speak English.

NYC seems to have a large Russian community along w/ other EEs - stripping is a way to make a lot of quick cash, as nimmigrants they probably have to o/w work menial jobs and many may not even have papers to work a regular job (at least a decent one).

Whether they are being pimped out I imagine it happens but to what % is anyone's guess - some of them may also owe $$$ to a smuggler who smuggled them in (got them to America) and the smuggler may not be pimping her but she may resort to stripping to pay off the debt - but these are all just guesses on my part.

They come mainly from Russia and the Ukraine, but every so often you will find one from one o the other smaller former Soviet countries.

They are not "pushed" in the classic sense. Most of them come over on tourist visas and choose to dance of their own free will. Russian girls are generally much tougher emotionally than their American counterparts and don't judge themselves the same way.

Most of the Russian girls start in Brooklyn when they first get here and work at certain clubs through so-called "agency" arrangements, where the agency is paid a "ride fee" by the girls for a shared van ride to/from the club. Through this mechanism, the tri-state clubs that hire these girls don't have to worry about whether the girls can legally work in the U.S. because the agency takes responsibility for it (which of course most of these girls are not legal). These arrangements also ensure that these clubs have enough hot girls on the pole. But again, these girls are not being "pimped" and they can choose when and where they wish to work.

The goal of many of these girls is to find an American husband so that they can get their papers and a lot of them eventually succeed. They usually overstay their visas, but since they originally came in legally, it does not prevent them from gaining a green card through marriage. Once they get their papers, they often start working directly for other clubs that they could not work at when they were not legal. They also often branch out from Brooklyn at that point and move to places like Queens and parts of NJ and CT.

About 5 or so years ago a few of the clubs in NYC were raided due to purported trafficking concerns relating to the Russian girls. Not only did the raids uncover no evidence that these girls were being trafficked, but some of the girls actually ended up being charged - for marriage fraud, lol.

Honestly, I enjoy interacting with the Russian girls. I should mention that getting one OTC is not easy, at least not one who is very attractive. They know their value and often hold out for bigger money. They also tend to prefer sugardaddy arrangements to outright p4p gigs, which I believe is a cultural thing. When I had a Russian favorite in one CT club for about a year, I eventually learned that half of the girls had "boyfriends" which were, of course, much older sugardaddies. She tried to convert me into one too, but had to settle for a few lucrative outings while I was test driving her. But she was enough fun nonetheless that she is the second runner-up for my ATF designation.

The Cleveland area has a large Russian Eastern Euro community but I hardly ever run across dancers from those countries.

I suppose that those dancers can be a pain in the ass same as many American dancers but seeing that most of the American dancers i'm running into in clubs are ghetto hos, druggies, fatsos or all of the above I wouldn't mind seeing some Russian or Eastern European dancers around my area. Send them my way i'll take my chancres with them and I happen to like the Eastern Euro accents.

In my clubbing experience, Russian dancers tend to be some of the biggest ROB's, along with Caribbean Latinas (Cubans and Puerto Ricans). They promise the world, but then deliver nothing. I will outright avoid Russian dancers after being scammed too many times. Other Eastern European dancers from places like Hungary and Slovakia have been good to me.

I would guess the Eastern European dancers are coming from Eastern Europe..

NYC clubs have always been dominated by Russian and EE dancers in my experience. They tend to be attractive but their English is usually awful and so is the mileage.

All the ones I've talked to say they came from their mothers.

BO is also bad

"I would guess the Eastern European dancers are coming from Eastern Europe.."

Brilliant!

My club had more E. European girls 10 years ago than now but I can't say if that's true all over Chicago. I have learned to stay away from them in general because I just have nothing in common with them and they give air dances sometimes, but a past CF was Polish; my first ATF in fact.

Ninabambina, yes EE girls are the Cubans of NYC but I was saying that the ones that OP was describing (older, not as pretty, dollar parade/ROBs) were being pushed out of the main SCs as the younger, prettier, friendlier ones come in.

But they're not being pushed out... go to Rick's, PEC, Sapphire, etc and they're still there.

"Russian girls are generally much tougher emotionally than their American counterparts and don't judge themselves the same way."

Rick is accurate. Let me add you should not lump all the EE's together. There are very strong feelings between these totally different groups of people, especially towards the Russians. Look at what still goes on in the Ukraine. I would think ROB's from EE cultures are more common.

I would hazard to guess Eastern Europe.