Warrenboy75, you must be new here. But we have been getting deluged by a particular financialization booster, and twentyfive is one of his sycophants.
They get an emotional charge out of gambling. And they don't want to admit that that is what they are doing. And the booster is working to build a two tier society.
^^^ SJG, your so called "sycophants" have been saying the same things when the market was at Dow 8k, 12k, 16k, 19k, and even now at 21,000 on the DOW. So if you were in it from the beginning like the sycophants said you should, then you'd be celebrating!
The reason why everybody calls SJG psycho and "shit for brains@ is because you repeat the same negative things about the market at every price point. For years on tuscl youve been saying the market is in a bubble, all the way back before the nearly 50% gains we've seen over the past 4 years, so when does the market crash actually figure into your narrative? It hasn't yet, but maybe after 200% gains you will scream "the sky is falling"!
SJG you have a lot in common with the boy who cried wolf and chicken little. The story of SJG can be commoditized and sold in self help books as a guide on how to fuck up investing, and then just do the opposite of SJG and you will be successful.
No, no one can know that it will not go still higher. But probability is far more likely of losing than of gaining.
And overall, people do better if they put their money and their energy into their own affairs, rather than being drawn into a life of glorified gambling.
Warren: ".if your buying now you missed the sweet spot. "
The sweet spot is still ahead of us. Growth is great going to see a couple of positive derivatives. Soon we'll be expecting 30% annual returns on the market as AI starts to take over. And then we just see if that leads to a Kurzweilian singularity or SkyNet first.
I believe that this market has long legs and a lot of wind behind it, actually tech is just getting started. There will be ups and downs just as always but the future is going to be bright for those that help shape it, or are smart enough to get out of the way. That's my optimistic take no one, has proven my optimism wrong in the long haul.
The Dow is the closest investment to a sure thing. Returns on it have beep positive in every decade even if you invested at the "top" before the great pullbacks and, this includes the Great Depression and W's recession. If you can hold on, you'll make money. It's the best long term investment you can make, even at 21k.
Agree with Jim, Doug, 25 and Rock -- all speak with knowledge rather than bluster.
It looks to me like growth is coming after a decade of stagnant growth. Earlier this decade, gains were aided by financial engineering, cheap money and aggressive cost cutting. I see economic expansion and capital deployment ahead. Corporations stockpiling cash now have incentives to expand/invest. Jobs and wage inflation to follow.
Having said that, at each new market high, I advise some selling to build a rainy day cash fund for deployment under buying opportunities. When a business reports a poor quarter and declining sales -- that is real - don't buy. However, when someone in China farts and Procter & Gamble drop -- that is a buying opportunity. When some idiot blows himself up in a market in Europe killing 30 people and Microsoft drops -- that is a buying opportunity -- no causation to the drop.
A rising tide lifts all boats -- even the losers.
A receding tide lowers all boats -- even the winners. That's when (and what) to buy!!
The point of the Dow is the listed companies change over time. They always choose industry leaders which typically make a lot of money, hence the stocks and the composite go up. When a company is no longer an industry leader, it gets chopped. This methodology pretty much insures that over time, the index will continue up.
Also it is a price weighted index, so if a highly priced stock moves it has a greater impact on the index. Broad market index is more likely to follow equities, or the NYSE.
Well done Doggie, you've really got'em going. Dow 100,000 indeed, only with vast currency inflation and the Dow having even less to do with ordinary life than it does now. You are doing better than we had expected of you.
Remember back a couple of years when you were saying that because of the 'boom' that there wouldn't be naked bonobo hookers available anymore for strip clubs? Nonsensical idea, but people believed you.
Now you might have noticed, like at some of your favorite strip clubs, the pick'ns are getting slim. Its not because of any boom, its because we have been picking some of the best of 'em and bringing 'em up here to our microgravity strip clubs.
Douggie, you've done well, and so we are bringing you up here for some R and R.
Spherical VIP Rooms out on the end of space tethers, rotating in magnetic fields. Enjoy Douggie, you've earned it.
Once we get into 30% returns that will mean the market double about every 2.5 years. So in a decade you'll see 16x. I don't think we are at that point yet. Which is too bad because 6,000 * 16 would take right to the doorstep of NASDAQ 100,000. Not sure what the average age on the board is, but I think many, maybe even a majority will get to see NASDAQ 100k.
Amazon is closing on $1000. Does any one here think split ? Also Microsoft had a bang up quarter Linked In brought nearly one billion in new business to the bottom line.
"Very good Dougie, you've really got them going along with that Dow $100k, forget about the associated currency inflation and that such a stock market would be based on nothing, nothing whatsoever, except continuing cash intake.
That R and R visit must have been good for you. And you've got 25 going along with you. Please continue."
The demagogues have opened up SJG's head, taken an ice scream scoop and scraped out all his brains. Before closing his head, they replaced it with shit where his brains used to be!
fucking stupid Lloyd "shit for brains" Schoene can't even keep track of his own ideas he has gone so bat shit crazy , he must have forgotten for years how he preached against the middle class and how it was evil, now he tries to shift it to Dougster. Lloyd stop being so stupid, go home unplug the computer and eat a bullet.
^^^^ It's "the Illuminati" that drilled holes in your brain and vacuumed out what little brain matter that you had. Then "the Illuminati" filled the empty space in your head with muddy fecal to give you shit for brains!
Wow, CERN is up over another point today in early trading. Nasdaq continues to lead!
That is a sign of a heating up economy. One more year before rising rates effectively take hold and increase the risk free rate. This will be the signal for our first 20% correction.
Entrapped to what? Pretty vague SJG, which is why I assume you are tied up in left wing demagoguery, sells by your soul to counter cultural retardation. Right?
All societies have the "haves" and "have nots". It's just a matter of how it's addressed. In places like N. Korea, hardly anyone has the opportunity to advance. It's not so easy in America as education is so expensive, but you can also excel as an athlete, artist, or even start a business. Lots of people with little education have become rich in business.
Liberals really don't want socialism despite that claim by conservatives. They just want a level playing field. For example, it's not in the best interest of our country that people who earn 7 figures a tear pay less in taxes than I do. It's also not fair that people making $25k or less have to pay any taxes at all. This is not radical income redistribution; it's just common sense.
^^^^ And rockstar, the reason we see this denigration of working people is because the system needs that, it needs to dehumanize people in order to maintain work force discipline. Welfare is set up to regulate the poor by dehumanization, not to provide for their needs.
@SJG you are a sick, selfish bastard, I am sick and tired of your constant whining, lying and fabrications always setting up a straw man to argue with. This is just one of a thousand threads you have hijacked, read the opening question and if you have a legitimate thought about what I have posted, state something relevant or shut the fuck up and go start your own thread, You are the only one here that constantly through all posts constantly tries to change the subject, no matter the poster !
^^^ This shows you what a sick fuck SJG is! Who else could reference a mom's website blog about diaper rash solutions? Only you search those websites and Are familiar enough to make them a reference via links, right SJG?
Or do you only know the website because you're looking it for personal reasons because you finally decided to raise children? If so congratulations SJG! I bet fatherhood will change you.
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Warrenboy75, you must be new here. But we have been getting deluged by a particular financialization booster, and twentyfive is one of his sycophants.
They get an emotional charge out of gambling. And they don't want to admit that that is what they are doing. And the booster is working to build a two tier society.
But recently we have learned some more of what is behind this:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4…
Welcome to TUSCL,
SJG
The reason why everybody calls SJG psycho and "shit for brains@ is because you repeat the same negative things about the market at every price point. For years on tuscl youve been saying the market is in a bubble, all the way back before the nearly 50% gains we've seen over the past 4 years, so when does the market crash actually figure into your narrative? It hasn't yet, but maybe after 200% gains you will scream "the sky is falling"!
SJG you have a lot in common with the boy who cried wolf and chicken little. The story of SJG can be commoditized and sold in self help books as a guide on how to fuck up investing, and then just do the opposite of SJG and you will be successful.
No, no one can know that it will not go still higher. But probability is far more likely of losing than of gaining.
And overall, people do better if they put their money and their energy into their own affairs, rather than being drawn into a life of glorified gambling.
SJG
Ginger Baker's Air Force (Jazz and Rock, 1970)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe9DA8pO…
The sweet spot is still ahead of us. Growth is great going to see a couple of positive derivatives. Soon we'll be expecting 30% annual returns on the market as AI starts to take over. And then we just see if that leads to a Kurzweilian singularity or SkyNet first.
It looks to me like growth is coming after a decade of stagnant growth. Earlier this decade, gains were aided by financial engineering, cheap money and aggressive cost cutting. I see economic expansion and capital deployment ahead. Corporations stockpiling cash now have incentives to expand/invest. Jobs and wage inflation to follow.
Having said that, at each new market high, I advise some selling to build a rainy day cash fund for deployment under buying opportunities. When a business reports a poor quarter and declining sales -- that is real - don't buy. However, when someone in China farts and Procter & Gamble drop -- that is a buying opportunity. When some idiot blows himself up in a market in Europe killing 30 people and Microsoft drops -- that is a buying opportunity -- no causation to the drop.
A rising tide lifts all boats -- even the losers.
A receding tide lowers all boats -- even the winners. That's when (and what) to buy!!
Happy investing!
Someday maybe we'll be at 100,000?
Well done Doggie, you've really got'em going. Dow 100,000 indeed, only with vast currency inflation and the Dow having even less to do with ordinary life than it does now. You are doing better than we had expected of you.
Remember back a couple of years when you were saying that because of the 'boom' that there wouldn't be naked bonobo hookers available anymore for strip clubs? Nonsensical idea, but people believed you.
Now you might have noticed, like at some of your favorite strip clubs, the pick'ns are getting slim. Its not because of any boom, its because we have been picking some of the best of 'em and bringing 'em up here to our microgravity strip clubs.
Douggie, you've done well, and so we are bringing you up here for some R and R.
Spherical VIP Rooms out on the end of space tethers, rotating in magnetic fields. Enjoy Douggie, you've earned it.
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4…
SJG
Do What Thou Wilt: Kenneth Anger, Hammer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV89WCXg…
"Very good Dougie, you've really got them going along with that Dow $100k, forget about the associated currency inflation and that such a stock market would be based on nothing, nothing whatsoever, except continuing cash intake.
That R and R visit must have been good for you. And you've got 25 going along with you. Please continue."
The middle class is necessary for a strong society. Apparently SJG wants to destroy society!
I got it for $50/share and it popped to almost $65 today. Nasdaq could be the leading sector this year.
Dougster wants to destroy the middle-class. He wants to divide humanity into two-tiers.
But to do this he uses reactionary middle-class rhetoric, right populism, the same stuff Gaffigan uses.
Gaffigan probably doesn't understand that this leads to the destruction of the middle-class.
Dougster knows exactly what he is doing, he just isn't honest about it.
But other people know:
https://www.amazon.com/Screwed-Undeclare…
I want to destroy the middle-class, not to create a world of masters and slaves, but so that people can be free to live smarter.
SJG
Gaffigan, I think you mean 'demiurges'.
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That is a sign of a heating up economy. One more year before rising rates effectively take hold and increase the risk free rate. This will be the signal for our first 20% correction.
SJG
SJG
Liberals really don't want socialism despite that claim by conservatives. They just want a level playing field. For example, it's not in the best interest of our country that people who earn 7 figures a tear pay less in taxes than I do. It's also not fair that people making $25k or less have to pay any taxes at all. This is not radical income redistribution; it's just common sense.
Gaffigan, you clearly don't understand what demiurges are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge
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SJG
http://www.circleofmoms.com/toddlers/wha…
SJG
Or do you only know the website because you're looking it for personal reasons because you finally decided to raise children? If so congratulations SJG! I bet fatherhood will change you.
Pretty unlikely that they do. Contrary to popular belief it's the wealthy who pay, by far, the most in taxes.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c…
The workers would have already revolted, and the fate of parasites like you would not be good.
SJG
http://www.techarta.com/wp-content/uploa…
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