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Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
Were there more high-mileage/extras clubs in the past (80s/90s) or are their more today?
Every so often a TUSCLer posts how the clubs in a certain area back in the day were UHM and now those same areas are lame or don't have clubs - and vice-versa some TUSCLers whom clubbed in the 80s and or 90s but extras were not available in their area till maybe the 2000s.
It may be about even - i.e. the # of areas w/ UHM/extras in the past and today may be about the same but just different areas in the past vs today?
Thoughts?
Every so often a TUSCLer posts how the clubs in a certain area back in the day were UHM and now those same areas are lame or don't have clubs - and vice-versa some TUSCLers whom clubbed in the 80s and or 90s but extras were not available in their area till maybe the 2000s.
It may be about even - i.e. the # of areas w/ UHM/extras in the past and today may be about the same but just different areas in the past vs today?
Thoughts?
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I remember a friend telling me about visiting the 52nd Street Show Bar in Detroit and seeing a stripper blowing a guy in the men's room. The clubs did not have the private booths that are conducive to extras today, but where there's a whore there's a way. OTC must have also been available, but I was too naive to know that.
However, I've had some friends that were in the military and stationed or had leave in some countries overseas, and the stories they tell about the clubs/brothels, etc. are more spectacular than anything I've experienced here in clubs, and I think it's been pretty good here now!!!
I've been having sex in clubs, and taking girls home from clubs, since the 80s. Finding those clubs was sometimes a pain, but once found, it was about like it is now.
I once got a dancer at Platinum Plus Columbia agree to buy two dances for $10 total and she kept agreeing to that deal for over 30 minutes. I couldn't beat $5 dances and your hands could roam. That was unusual. When I returned the following week, She just said management was telling her to charge at least two for 20 and not to stay in the back too long.
Jim and Artie were tried for being the "corporate pimps" in the early 1980's.
Most people would have been intimidated into pleading guilty. But not them.
Then after that, after the legality was established, the Mafia came in, with booths and back rooms in the early 90's, Terance Halinan and Willey Brown, and then Deja Vu.
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But TUSCLer's have posted about the beginnings of high mileage in Houston and Dallas, the Chair Forts.
And then it is widely posted that there are dives in places where they don't even bother with back rooms for FS. These seem to be advertised clubs too.
So I think the history is more complicated, not any one standard.
Santa Clara County CA, our DA's office still says that any touching for tips is prostitution. The last people who seriously challenged this were held in jail for a couple of months before they were even allowed to sign over their homes for bail. As usually, they were intimidated into pleading guilty. Our DA's office knows that losing one jury trial could mean a San Francisco situation. So they don't hit people with a stick, they hit them with a sledge hammer.
It sounds like there are crackdowns in places. And the prostitution law is very hard to enforce. But these local ordinances, almost always unconstitutional, are very easy to enforce and very problematic. But it seems like general attitudes are getting more and more anything goes.
SJG
The state started to crack down. Then local government started to crack down. With lower drug prices the dancers did not have to do extras to get their fix. Times square was cleaned up.
When I was younger it was assumed a dancer was a prostitute so once a woman turned to dancing she was already tainted. In for a penny, in for a pound.
I miss those days
Setting aside that period in RI when indoor prostitution was legal (and several RI strip clubs were brothels in all but name), I think it's better now. But that might only be because I'm better at making strip clubs work for me.
When I went to clubs in the early-mid 90's, it was pretty much just dances. There were not any VIP or rooms with curtains that I was aware of.
That all seemed to change/evolve in the early to mid 2000's. VIP rooms seemed to become the norm and with the privacy they provide, extras became more available. At least that's been my recollection of the evolution in the area.
Alcohol would make them have to be 21, and mileage would make them harder core.
:)
SJG