OT: Ways to own a car

5-7 yrs ago she could have gotten away with that (IMO). But these days with company issue the underwriters want to know who exactly are driving the cars to price the policy appropriately. Every driver at the company, incl. driver license numbers.

So from my experience they closed that loop hole.

Dominic PROBABLY nailed it but insurance laws and practices vary from state to state, she would have to check the local laws.

Well a way around that is to go attempt to apply for a license in another state, but if she ever gets pulled over in the state she has had the license revoked, she will be in huge trouble.

I have a friend that has a psychotic girlfriend (now wife) who pulled this shit and it didn't end pretty. She got a DUI, and never even attempted to take the steps to get her license back. She just went to another state and got a drivers license since my friend actually had a residence in another state at the time. Being the idiot that she is, she got pulled over by a state trooper who actually was a relative of hers. She should have done jail time, but since she just had a baby they gave her house arrest for a few months, and then she had to install a blow and go on her car for 6 months.

This gal is from NH and she moved to FL and applied there & got turned down cuz of the suspension in NH.
She's gunna spend $2000 for a beater, $600 for incorporation, and a grand for insurance. I told her that's a year's worth of Uber but she wants to come & go as she pleases and visit her son on weekends. She's also got outstanding warrants so I think she's crazy to be driving.

Well strippers always don't make good decisions, especially ones that date Gawker!!!! If she's lucky enough to go through all these steps I'd imagine it's only a matter of time before she gets pulled over and the warrants come up.

I went 10 years without getting pulled over and then I got pulled over 4 times in 2 months.

Again we all ask what could possibly go wrong ?

The legal theory of "piercing the corporate veil" would be used to determine if the LLC., was in fact a front and there would be personal liability in the end. In Massachusetts only drunk drivers and habitual traffic offenders lose their license for that long and no matter who owns the car, if they get caught driving it is a mandatory jail term. She'd be better off find ing a dude to pay in sex to drive her around.

I think a simpler approach would be to advise her to find somebody else willing to purchase and insure the car for her. Surely she'll find some guy who listens more to the little head than he does to the big head.

It would be super ace to tell her to move to wherever juicebox69 lives. He seems like a guy that might live in Florida and he seems like a guy willing to buy her a car! I bet he'll buy her a 1970's Ford Pinto! ;)

Here's a hypothetical for ya:

Have her get a car (doesn't matter how she gets it). Find a car that is similar (same make, model, year, etc) with plates on it. (Preferably a plate that has a 10 month or so yearly tab on it).
Take the plate off the similar car at night and replace it with another plate on the car.
How often does anyone look at their plate? Especially if it's the same color, etc. may be months before anyone notices.

Then tell her whenever she sees a cop car... DO NOT let it get behind her for any long distance. She'd have to be super vigilant in looking out for police cars though and only drive the car when she absolutely had to. Plus, if she's driving at night it's harder to distinguish police cars.

Of course this is just for entertainment and discussion purposes only. I wouldn't ever advocate such an illegal thing. ;)

Hardship license? Probably a long shot on a five year suspension, but maybe her only shot.

Maybe she should get a hover board they're real cool. : )

My CF lost her license. Being a PL, I will drive her to the supermarket and to the club for free. But she usually takes an Uber, and she seldom has to wait more than 10 minutes for an Uber to show up. It's cheaper than owning a car and it's legal.

Almost all the states are now part of the Non-Resident Violator Compact. This means that they all report tickets and suspensions in a national database. They also honor the driving privilege suspensions imposed by other states, so if you get a ticket while driving through (for example) VA and that state suspends your driving privileges for non-payment, the suspension is most likely honored in your home state as well.

I learned this the hard way a few months back when I had an unexpected issue with MD. I got a photo ticket that I didn't even know I had and the fuckers never mailed to me, but it didn't stop them from suspending my license for non-payment. I learned about it when I went to my local DMV for a routine matter. Not only did I have to clear up the issue in MD, but I had to wait 2 days until MD cleared it in the national database and then go back to my local DMV and pay a license reinstatement fee. It is quite a racket now.

If she lost her license for 5 years, then she must have racked up a few DUIs. She's not going to get a hardship license in FL or probably anywhere else. She can't go near a DMV anyway because of her outstanding warrants.

She'll just have to suck it up until the 5 years pass and until she clears up her other issues. I suspect that she will eventually find someone who she can pussy whip into letting her drive a car in his name.

My escort g/f lost her license from a DUI, and her solution was to only do in calls. Oh, and I get a lot of free BJ's in my car now.

No. It won't work. If she's caught driving a car on a suspended license, she's screwed (and not in our preferred use of the term).

Her solution is Uber or a good pair of walking shoes.

Stay a million miles away from this dancer's driving issues. It is absolutely guaranteed to end in disaster.

Based on what Rick and others are saying, the DMV, the police, and insurance companies are too computerized for this trick to work.

Can she work with a lawyer "to go to DUI school" to make restitution and show she's a better, contributing member of society? Maybe widdle down the 5 years to something less? Or maybe it's too late for that.

JS69, imagine it was one of the DSes, what would you do?

This did come up with DS III. She had no car and couldn't get affordable insurance because of her young age and her horrible driving record (which included multiple accidents one or two of which involved drugs). I was sympathetic, and I did give her advice, but I was not willing to do anything concrete to help her because it was so clearly a disaster in the making.

The kind of people who lose their license are the kind of people who will invariably get pulled over.

Getting the license back, I don't know about that. Sometimes there are ways, maybe a court proceeding. Usually courts don't want to hurt someone lifelong.

But Gawker is right, no one would register and insure the car for her. That would be completely nuts, as stupid as the institution of marriage.

Starting a company is the basic way of getting to do what you want in this world. But the specifics are complex. And Dominic77 might be correct, that it won't work the way you want.

But on the other hand, lots of companies which own motor vehicles, and people drive them, people with valid licenses. So there should be a way. Start a company for her?

I believe that restrictions placed by insurance companies are the reason why lots of people are forced out of living wage employment, and eventually to living under bridges.

This is a two tier society, as people who can afford the right kinds of lawyers and accountants can do whatever they want.

Lots of benefit in owning companies besides just money, its also the control and the power which can be available. But must know what you are doing, and that means lawyers.

Obviously you don't want to own anything yourself, because that would mean you had to have paid for it with taxable funds. Likewise, don't want to pay anybody for anything with your own money, for the same reason.

Anyone here learned how to do such things, and willing to talk about it?

I plan to learn how, within the law.

SJG

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I'm totally NOT a fan of the Nevada Brothels, but if she's an extras girl she probably should get her ass on a plane and go work for Dennis 'the pimp' Hof. Yeah, he'll fill her head with GPS, teach her to upsell and take 60% of what she makes as an 'independent contractor'--- but she just has to fly out there every couple of months and stay there for a couple weeks.
If she has to commute back and forth to a club she's a menace to society and an accident waiting to happen.

I just know from my POV is that companies never used to ask from license # because insurance companies never used to ask. The last two companies did. It could be an isolated incident. It might not. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try. Or at least make some phone calls and see.

Q: For the company owners out there, do you require employees give you license #'s to drive one of your company cars or trucks?

^^^ maybe twentyfive knows.

When its all said and done, it sounds like she is just SOL. Public transportation isnt always a bad thing. While I was sitting traffic this morning, I was actually reminiscing about when I lived in a Chicago suburb with a rush-hour only bus stop behind my house. Walk out my back gate, take the bus to the Wheaton train station, and the ride into Northwestern downtown. No gas, parking, traffic, and I could do whatever while commuting.
New Orleans put a stigma on public transportation. I had some employees who refused to be seen waiting at the bus stop. They would rather miss work and risk getting written up or terminated, rather than be seen at a bus stop. Now, they've got homeless people riddled with life and bedbugs sleeping on the El in Chicago, so I still feel I left there at about the right time (2004).

To answer Dom's question, and since 25 is full of shit and clearly not a business owner, yes, you have to have an MVR in order to insure someone to drive a company vehicle. I also get background checks and even tried hand-writing samples once. This federal guidance about no longer asking if someone is a felon us bullshit, but that's neither here nor there.

^^^ I agree with you, GammaNu. Driving is a privilege. I've had my years where I relied on public transportation, too. It teaches to appreciate and respect things.

Gramma nut case back off, I don't enjoy making fools out of the dull witted.

@ Dominic for at least the last 15-20 years anyone who works for us must pass background check, drug check, and be cleared by our W/C insurance company's physician before they can work for us, our drivers must undergo an additional insurance screening before they can drive one of our vehicles additionally every one of our employees must either produce legal documentation that they are either a citizen or hold a green card with the correct endorsements. One more thing as we send employees to work in county, state and federal buildings as well as some public venues like airports, stadiums, and several hospitals there are additional screenings that are required contractually/ I hope that answers your question.

Yes, thank you twenty five and GammaNu. That answers my question. If you will forgive I have to go back and sit on my front porch.

Own nothing. Companies own everything, including each other. They supply goods and services to each other, but payment is always delayed. Make money transfers when it suits your larger purposes. Some companies are intended for donating to your religious and non-profit companies. They cost you little to nothing. But when you donate them, you should be able then to sell shares of others and pay no tax. All just mad money.

Women in other places are on the payroll as Communications Consultants and sometimes Photo Models.

Other people get early stock purchases, or stock options, but with vesting periods on buyback options.

Very complex, requires expert lawyers, and limits have to be understood and observed, but it should all be doable, if one wants it that way.

SJG