Go to Tijuana before there's a wall :)

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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
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vincemichaels
8 years ago
Don't forget there are several tunnels under the border.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
That's right, I believe made by Chapo Guzman, who is now again in custody?

SJG
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TheWholeEnchilada
8 years ago
Never mind the Trump wall/fence or whatever. Go to TJ while the exchange rate is 20 to 1. Hong Kong has a printed drink list that they have been using for a long time. It's based on a 16 to 1 exchange rate. Change your dollars into pesos beforehand and get a nice discount.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Most of the time when you are in TJ's Zona, do you use pesos, or is it just more convenient to use dollars?

SJG
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TheWholeEnchilada
8 years ago
A little of both. Pesos at the restaurants and local businesses. Either at Hong Kong. Pesos are a better deal, but sometimes it's easier to just use dollars at Hong Kong, so I have the correct change on me. Cascadas has all their room rates posted in dollars. The VIP card is definitely worth it for both HK and Cascadas, as are the online coupons for HK.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
But for giving money to the girls, does it even matter? I would think dollars easier and probably okay with them?

Maybe we should dig our own tunnel, for bringing girls across the border?

SJG
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TheWholeEnchilada
8 years ago
The girls that I've come across prefer dollars, but will accept either. Some are more up to date on the exchange rate than others. Some will whip out their phones to run calculations, to quote you the right amount in pesos. There are SO many girls working that often times they are standing around or sitting around by themselves for hours on end. I was with a woman who was about a 9 who told me she only made like $6 one night the previous week. She said she could make about $700 on a Saturday night, but on slow days they struggle.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
This girl sitting around, this was in the HK bar?

I would assume that they like dollars. I won't be tight or thrifty with them. If they want more, I'll just hand it to them. I'll give them whatever makes them happy. I'll pick my girl carefully and then try to spend as much time as possible with her, like multiple rounds, food, sleeping, maybe Jacuzzi. Then stay in contact and see her by appointment and also introduce her to other men and women who I work with, in the weeks which follow.

Someone said something about an alley, like in TJ's zona and filled with street hookers?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hotel+…

??

SJG
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TheWholeEnchilada
8 years ago
Yeah, at Hong Kong, you'll see dozens of girls by themselves, just waiting for someone to approach them. Same thing at Adelitas or other bars too. Even when it's crowded, I think there are always more women than men.

The street directly behind HK, Cascadas, and Adelitas is lined with street girls. Not my thing, but sometimes you'll find some very pretty ones. I've seen guys take street girls right into Cascadas through the back entrance, get a room from the hotel clerk working the 2nd check in desk at the back of the hotel, and go upstairs. I didn't know Cascadas would allow that, but apparently they do.
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TheWholeEnchilada
8 years ago
Also, if you want to stay in touch with a girl from TJ, they seem to like using WhatsApp for communication. It seems to be their app of choice for texting internationally.
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RandomMember
8 years ago
School kids chanting

Build that wall!
Build that wall!
Build that wall!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCUuN-g9…
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TheWholeEnchilada
8 years ago
When's the TJ meetup? No more procrastination. Let's do it already.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCUuN-g9…
Kids chanting like that, Donald Trump's America, but not my America.

Well more women than men is the obvious way to run such places. I like selecting the girl and approaching her myself. Don't get me wrong, the more aggressive they want to be the better, as that makes it easier for me. But I will still always try to make it like I selected her. It gets a good response. I always know that although it is a job for these girls, they are still just like any other girls.

That alley then probably is this Tercer Callejon Coahuila:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hotel+…

Others have talked about it being fine to take outside girls into the Cascadas, but that they charge an extra fee if it becomes more than one girl at a time.

But others have said that the street girls have a contract with a hotel, probably the one they are standing at, and they would not want to jeopardize their contract.

To me it seems like you would want the nicer hotel, and the Jacuzzi if you are planning on spending a long time with the girl. Seems like food first would be good, to get to know her and just to keep her fed.

We have pictures of girls out on the streets, but none from back in that alley.

So have you ever partaken with a street girl?

The reason they hold an appeal for me is:

1. See them in daylight.
2. Easier to talk without loud music, flashing lights, or alcohol.
3. More free agents than anyone else in that scene.

Seems like TJ is set up to let you have whatever you want, and the main variable is always going to be how long you want to stay with you girl(s).

People have talked about $300 for Cascadas / HK girls Toda La Noche.

Escorts of Mexico talks about street girls being happy to do Toda La Noche, and being reasonable, like maybe you pay for the hotel plus about 2x the por un ratito price.

But, you need to get to them very late at night, like 4am. They will go for it because they have to eventually sleep somewhere. So why not.

To me, based on experiences at our own underground Mexican bar table dancing circuit, Mexican prostitution is more gentile. More respectful and more trusting.

I don't want to be out on street looking over girls at 4am, or even after dark. When it gets dark, I'll either be bedded down with a sweetie, or I'll retreat to the HK Bar, or I'll already be back across the border.

Also, I wouldn't want to set up toda la noche quite like that, at night, and with a girl I've just met. Rather let her know what I am intending, but do a basic session first and then maybe food, and then finally proceed.

Yes, and then if I'm with a girl that I get along with, I will keep in contact and keep seeing her and be introducing her to other people I know, online, but maybe f2f too.

To expand a business I will need to get to know local people. This girl may not have graduated from their finest law school, but as someone to help me understand and stay on the right side of local people, she will be ideal.

Thanks for the heads up about WhatsApp.
https://www.whatsapp.com/

Never heard of that before. For myself, I just use email. But I know girls seem to go for phone texting.

SJG
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Can't go to TJ now. I have fully immersive responsibilities and obligations. Have to keep a wall between my online and f2f life too.

SJG
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
In the alley do they dress more sexy than they do out on the streets?

Do they behave more slutty too?

SJG
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DoctorPhil
8 years ago
@san_jose_guy "Can't go to TJ now. I have fully immersive responsibilities and obligations. Have to keep a wall between my online and f2f life too."


rotflmao. that just never gets old. lolololol
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Tiburon
8 years ago
I'm hard pressed to believe 9s in either America or Mexico struggle on slow nights. Sounds like some good ol' ss to me. But if it is true, then they need an American man, black white or otherwise. He'll make her fall in love...with his wallet
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TheWholeEnchilada
8 years ago
Tiburon, seeing is believing. If you make the trip to TJ and Hong Kong sometime, especially on a slow night, you'll see a bunch of hotties standing around looking for a customer. Women travel from all over Mexico to work at Hong Kong in TJ & often times supply is much greater than demand.
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Tiburon
8 years ago
And how is it no fucking foreigner neither notices nor takes advantage of this. I'd have a harem in mere minutes if I was out there.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
So since Chapo Guzman is in custody again, should we commandeer his tunnels? Should we start making some new ones of our own?

Well, that Cascadas Hotel sounds like paradise, just so long as you got the money. You can get one of the nicer rooms there, then you can find companionship from the HK Bar, that Las Chavelas, or out in the back alley. What could be better?

Tercer Callejon Coahuila, smaller alley on the North side, behind Tropical
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5372322,…

Primer Callejon Coahuila, larger alley on the South Side, behind Hong Kong / Cascadas / Las Chavelas, and with lots and bars and restaurants of its own.
https://www.google.com/maps/@32.5372322,…

So if these alleys are full of girls, I take back what I said about not wanting to be out and about after dark there. Should be safe.

So just with the Cascadas, 3 venues to find companionship.

They say maybe Las Chavelas and Tropical are more hostess dancing? That is more the traditional Mexican way than a strip club is. You pay so much per dance, so in principle you could keep dancing with your girl. But no Latina is ever going to need more than one dance to reduce a guy to jello. They do it with they way look into your eyes. They work magic on you.

Very dangerous for Americans too. No telling how many American guys have gone down there and gotten induced into doing one girl after another, only to wake up to find that he is covered in brown fur as he has been turned into a show donkey.

http://petertips.blogspot.com/2013/06/la…

So they say that at Tropical and maybe Las Chevelas too, the girls are bit older and a bit thicker, and if they use the stage they don't really take off that much. Fine with me, as I like GFE. The girl's clothes will come off in good enough time.

Anybody try out Tropical or Las Chevelas, and hostess dancing?

Do the girls wear less and act more slutty in those alleys than out on the real streets?

SJG

Neil Young - Heart of Gold (Lyrics)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OrofA5U…
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DoctorPhil
8 years ago
hey jugo de la carne boy. shut the fuck up you dumbass. here you go

https://www.southwest.com/flight/

$134 round trip san jose to san diego by air.

https://www.greyhound.com/en

or $56 by bus.

after two and one half years of posting bullshit here you should have collected enough aluminum cans by now to fund your great adventure. don’t forget to take your electronic Spanish translator along so you can ask that underage street walker and her pimp about the proper etiquette of when to use “vos”
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mikeya02
8 years ago
lol
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vincemichaels
8 years ago
s_j_guy, I have 2 cans you can have to go to TJ, I'm sure we all are waiting for the novel to follow. :(
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
No VM, I have responsibilities, need to bring some things to conclusion. And then my travels will be about expanding a business. Strippers are just an easy way to hook up with local people, as well as to keep warm at night.

Never been someone who sells his time to get money to spend to recreate. I don't live like that. There is always more going on.

SJG
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DoctorPhil
8 years ago
so san_jose_guy which is it? your mom won’t let you go or the bullies down the block keep stealing all of your aluminum cans?
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Jascoi
8 years ago
the 'wall' is a reality allready from the beach at playa tijuana and extending way east of tijuana.

as to the money... they love the american dollar..
and the street girls... i've seen some dress sluty on the other streets too. not just the 'alley'. :)
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
Thanks for the info justme62.

Do you find that the street girls are better because less alcohol and less drugs?

SJG
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Jascoi
8 years ago
give me hong kong and adelitas. the girls on the street are focused on production. much less so especially in hong kong. most of hk girls want to party.
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sharkhunter
8 years ago
Don't worry. After we get the Trump Wall we will likely get a Trump Tunnel after you pay the toll charge and get thoroughly frisked.
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TheWholeEnchilada
8 years ago
SJG, I've heard that a lot of the street girls have drug addictions. There's a site called TJAmigos.com that discusses the whole TJ scene in great detail. It may interest you. I only hang out at Hong Kong and don't approach any of the street girls, but I've read about other people's experiences with the street girls. Some have told stories about getting set up by the street girls, after they leave. Like the street girl tips off a thug friend of hers, the thug robs the guy, and the girl gets a kickback. The bar girls seem to drink a lot, since guys are buying them drinks all night, but the street girls seem to be addicted to drugs more frequently. Some of the bar girls smoke weed, but the street girls are more likely to be into heroin and other hardcore drugs from what I read. Just an fyi, because you seem to be putting the street girls on a pedestal, and I wanted to give you some reality about the situation. Plus, that discussion forum has mentioned that some of the street girls have pimps, while the bar girls are there of their own free will. I know some of the Hong Kong girls take vacations, go visit their families for a while, etc. Some work there just for a very short period of time to save enough money for college and then leave Tijuana and return to the part of Mexico that they came from to go to college full time.
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
justme62 wrote, "most of hk girls want to party"

Interesting. Everyone has said that they will sit with you, on your lap, for quite a while, just for a drink.

Ever even talk with street girls?

Why do you think the street girls opt for the sidewalk, instead of the HK bar? Don't have the looks? Want to be their own bosses and manage their own time and keep regular hours? Want to avoid alcohol and drugs?

Yes sharkhunger, Trump Wall and then Trump Tunnel, and a Trump Toll.

TheWholeEnchilada

Interesting. Here they say that they don't usually have pimps. No reason to, since it is not illegal.
www.anthropologymatters.com/index.php/an…

As far as getting set up, yes people say stuff like that. But I believe that I am a fairly good judge of people, and I get along with Hispanics here in San Jose. I would deal with street girls in a strictly civilian manner, taking time to get to know her.

Usually people who use drugs and people who live crazy lives and I do not get along anyway. They can tell right off that I am not like them, and so they see me as an adversary.

Yes, I had seen this site. Thanks for pointing it out to me again. Guess I should try to join. What everyone does say is that you want to look your girl over carefully. Strange behavior is a good indication of drug addiction. And then if taking her from the alley to the Cascadas, I think it would be the same as with HK bar girls. But I do take your point though.
http://www.tjamigos.com/

Have you interacted with enough street girls to know, do they have a residence in TJ? Do they have kids to get home to, and in TJ?

Or is whatever family they have off somewhere else? Then do they sleep in the Zona? Just bed down with a customer, to get some extra money and avoid paying for a hotel?

Usually street hookers are seen as a lower grade. But I wonder if here, especially with the day time crew, if they just want to manage their own affairs, keep regular hours, and stay sober and clean? It could be very different when it is legal and safe. Out in that alley and with access to the hotels, looks pretty safe to me. Looks like an automobile free paradise.

Just joined TJamigos, email verified. Logged in. But can't read anything or even look at their gallery until an admin looks over my account.

"I fucked the 4 hottest putas in the Alley last night ."
http://www.tjamigos.com/index.php?act=id…

Where do you think this guy would have taken his alley girls? Cascadas? Other hotel there?

I don't know of anywhere else where you can just select a girl from many, fraternize with her as you will before committing, and then walk her to a hotel room. Don't know of anyplace else like that.

Thanks
SJG

What the 1% Don't Want You to Know
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
"I hooked up with a great new Gringa freelancer tonight that was an excellent piece of ass and very naughty in the room."

http://www.tjamigos.com/index.php?app=sh…

Lots of American girls down there, out on the sidewalks? I presume not licensed. Are they even eligible to obtain a license?

If American girls go down there, that would tend to suggest that it is not that nasty of a venue and that most of the girls must not need pimps.

Still waiting for my final TJAmigos approval.

SJG
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