Anyone ever been to an "underground" strip club? Last night was my first experience with one. I guess all the locals know that it's a private club but don't really know what all goes on. Best thing was no prying eyes from LEO while you're in there.
It has been a while. In the late 80's until about 2000 there were a few in Newark and at the Jersey shore that I visited.
Each got raided after a few years. The only advantage I found was the stage shows were wilder and since NJ doesn't allow alcohol at nude clubs, I could drink while watching the dancers.
I found OTC to be cheaper and much less hurried.
Joe six pack dosent, that's the point. You have to know someone. Prices last night were really good, scotch was cheap and the dancers pretty much set their own prices so you could shop. They make their money on membership and door fees (was told by the guy who took me his membership was $1000 a year and cost $50 for me to enter as a guest.
They had a stage but nobody really used it last night. Was told that it all depended on the girls and crowd that evening. Did see some photos of some porn stars (nobody I really recognized) that had danced therein the past. I guess this place has been there for better part of a decade, they do a real good job on keeping it on the down low. From outside it looks like a completely different business (won't say what because would definitely give it away and LEO may be reading ).
In the news paper it had said that San Jose had a real underground club, no business license, no descriptive signage. But by then it was closed and I had not seen it.
Usually I associate that kind of stuff with the Eastern part of the country.
Pink Diamonds in San Francisco may have started as a semi-underground club. And I was there once, decades back. Biz license and liquor license okay. But stage added and nude dancers added. Nudity violates liquor license laws. But dancers and some other girls seemed to me to be straight up hookers. One even followed me out onto the sidewalk.
Actually, to me the place and the women seemed extremely inviting.
Club-Anti in San Mateo may have been semi-underground, basement separated off from licensed blues bar, Vibes. Dancers added, and running looser than other clubs in area.
Table dancing circuit, on and off, in some Mexican, and now some Vietnamese, places recently in news over a shooting. Two clubs closed. But there will be more.
Though I would suggest looking in Watsonville, Monterey, and Salinas if one is really interested. Usually just one night per week per bar for the girls.
But these are not fully underground.
AAMPs are fully underground, zero business license or signage.
My own view is that Membership Clubs are the future for the strip club industry.
I been to a couple in Vegas about 5 years ago. Like impala said it's by invite only and it's done by word of mouth for the express reason to keep out the average Joe's (and Jane's). It was way better than regular clubs because anything goes (and was negotiatable) and the mix of booze and nudity alone made it worthwhile.
I knew of one several years ago about 90 minutes outside of Philly virtually in the middle of nowhere. Someone gave my buddy a phone number and said be sure you call before you just show up. My buddy did, and was told how to enter and that there were 5 girls working that night. About 45 minutes later we pull up there were 4 haggard looking women standing outside smoking. When they saw us they ran back inside, but were out there long enough for us to get a good look at them. We debated for a minute and decided the odds were low that the 1 we didn't see was hot, and even if she was, we would be fighting over her, so we left.
I want women dressed and painted up to please. Men appreciate women by their otherness. Lots of men don't even understand this, though it is nonetheless true for them.
But when it is just between women, this kind of stuff can become unimportant.
Seems underground clubs may be a bit more-common in certain-areas for w/e reason - Philly supposedly has some AA ones.
I always thought an underground club meant anything goes but that is not necessarily the case although I'm sure it is for some - one would think if there were underground clubs that were the bomb that we would know about-it by now on this board; but maybe not.
@sjg- that's an incorrect assumption. Of course they are wearing makeup and wearing their stripper heels! Its always important regardless of the gender of the customers. It's not a woman's music festival out in the middle of the desert where women are huddled around singing "kumbayah". It's a stripclub and has all of the elements that make it a stripclub, including real live strippers with all the trimmings. They are strippers trying to make some cash like in any other club setting so they still have to look their best. Just because the customers are all women doesn't change that.
@pensionking- maybe I'll write an article about it sometime ;)
I had read in a book about sex work about a show put on, women stripping for women. And the high heels and the makeup were discarded, as to women these are not that important. Women for women is symmetrical.
Where as women for men is complementary, so otherness is emphasized.
But thanks for clarifying and correcting me about what I was imagining.
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Each got raided after a few years. The only advantage I found was the stage shows were wilder and since NJ doesn't allow alcohol at nude clubs, I could drink while watching the dancers.
I found OTC to be cheaper and much less hurried.
Usually I associate that kind of stuff with the Eastern part of the country.
Pink Diamonds in San Francisco may have started as a semi-underground club. And I was there once, decades back. Biz license and liquor license okay. But stage added and nude dancers added. Nudity violates liquor license laws. But dancers and some other girls seemed to me to be straight up hookers. One even followed me out onto the sidewalk.
Actually, to me the place and the women seemed extremely inviting.
Club-Anti in San Mateo may have been semi-underground, basement separated off from licensed blues bar, Vibes. Dancers added, and running looser than other clubs in area.
Table dancing circuit, on and off, in some Mexican, and now some Vietnamese, places recently in news over a shooting. Two clubs closed. But there will be more.
Though I would suggest looking in Watsonville, Monterey, and Salinas if one is really interested. Usually just one night per week per bar for the girls.
But these are not fully underground.
AAMPs are fully underground, zero business license or signage.
My own view is that Membership Clubs are the future for the strip club industry.
SJG
sounds awesome!
When it is just for women, doesn't that become unimportant?
That's why I would not want to go to one of those kinds of clubs.
SJG
Why not? You'd fit right in.
But when it is just between women, this kind of stuff can become unimportant.
SJG
I always thought an underground club meant anything goes but that is not necessarily the case although I'm sure it is for some - one would think if there were underground clubs that were the bomb that we would know about-it by now on this board; but maybe not.
@pensionking- maybe I'll write an article about it sometime ;)
Where as women for men is complementary, so otherness is emphasized.
But thanks for clarifying and correcting me about what I was imagining.
SJG