So recently, I was at a club and was offered extras in the pvt room. All she asked, was to tip her well. I ended up getting a BBJ and she finished me off by riding me. I ended up giving her $100 which I considered tipping her well. So my question to the experienced people on this site, what would you have considered tipping her well? Did I overpay or should I have paid more?
The acceptability of a tip is generally based on the pre-tip cost along with other variables like how difficult you were to deal with, how recently you last bathed, etc.
A couple of ways of telling of whether a tip might not have been good enough is a) if she asks a bigger tip, or b) on your next visit, she only talks to you after trying every other customer in the club.
On the other hand, if she is all over you from the time you enter on your next visit, she might have been OK with a smaller tip.
I generally find that in most contexts, my idea of what's fair and other peoples' tend to match up pretty well. If for some reason it doesn't match up for you and the dancer, maybe that's a sign.
If you're trying to figure out market rates expected for you, it might be worth further research. (Hint: if dancers avoid you, that is a sign that you aren't tipping market. If they bunch up around you, that is a sign that you are tipping over market) Of course, market rates vary based on how you present yourself.
I don't have anything meaningful on the topic in my opinion. If some extras do go down I.usually just tip $10 -$50 more unless we agreed upon some set price.
Seems like you got FS since she finished you off by riding you post-BBBJ - personally I would tip according to her having done FS vs just a BBBJ.
FS prices can be all over the map based on location (NY vs Ohio) and whether it's an upscale club or a dive - if all you paid her was $00 in total for FS I'd say that is too low for most clubs including dives - for me personally in a dive I go at least $120 to $150 w/ $150 to $200 being still in the dive ballpark.
In this area, $100 for BBBJ would be unbelievably, crazily unacceptable, and since you actually got FS, almost criminally cheap. Other areas, obviously, can be different
You should have asked the bouncer or manager for their recommendation before going back to the private area. Another good source is stripperweb. There's a lot of good information on this topic there.
I always try to find out, not from her, but over time from random dancers, how much they make from VIP rooms. I take the strippers existing $ from the SC for the VIP room into account when deciding how much to tip afterwards for VIP. About backpage to 2x backpage, never more than $500 per hour (famous pornstar with silicon incall escort price). I just buy more time in VIP nowadays in instead of tipping (when bouncer walks in at end of 15 mins, I hand him the next 15 mins, and he closes the curtain and we keep going).
Explaining to a stripper why one time she got a high tip, and 2nd time she got zero, means rating her like food critic to her face, and they tend to get very offended and angry when you talk to them like you are review a business on yelp to their face 3 feet away. I stick to just buying time now. If she is being shitty, I end it at 15 mins and say goodnight. Im not going to argue about a non-prearranged tip.
The supply and demand dynamics vary from market to market... thus the price point of services rendered will vary accordingly. I agree with papi and others that you finished with FS. Without knowing how much you already paid for the room and where this went down, there's no way to judge. IMO... I think establishing / negotiating price points in advance makes more sense.
At my favorite club, the $100 to the girl often includes the extras. Some will ask for a tip for the extra once in there or especially if you change your mind on what you agreed to beforehand. If I tip it is only $20-$60 depending on situation and they seem happy and are happy to repeat with me in the future. On the other hand, the ROB's that give you a menu of add-ons (CIM, more to ride longer, etc.) once you are there piss me off and they get nothing.
That all said, to the original question, it is probably a percentage thing. If the girl is getting $100, then $40 is a big difference. If the girl is getting $300, she is thinking in units of a Benjamin or more for a tip for an extra.
And, something I find works is to simply ask and negotiate the tip. I do not find this awkward.
I can do that for a tip.
Would $40 be OK?
Can you do $60?
Sure.
Great! Whip it out!
At a number of extras clubs in Indiana and Illinois, I pay $150 for 15-30 minutes in a private (or semi-private) VIP room and usually tip $50 for a BBBJCIM. Almost all of my playmates seem to be very happy with a $50 tip, some of them touchingly so, and they get a lot of repeat business from me, so perhaps I'm overtipping -- but it's all good :)
That's more than I ever tipped someone. I remember one girl used to do some sucking but never expected a tip. She was just quickly working on making me horny. She wanted to go all the way every night she saw me but not in the club. I once tipped a girl 20 or $30. I wasn't expecting a bbj in a deserted club that I hadn't been to in forever. I did tell her I didn't have much cash left. She didn't care. I had enough to pay for dances and tip get a little. She actually complained because she didn't get to taste anything after only 3 or 4 songs. A bouncer almost caught her. I decided I had enough at that point. I did not want to use the club atm.
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A couple of ways of telling of whether a tip might not have been good enough is a) if she asks a bigger tip, or b) on your next visit, she only talks to you after trying every other customer in the club.
On the other hand, if she is all over you from the time you enter on your next visit, she might have been OK with a smaller tip.
I generally find that in most contexts, my idea of what's fair and other peoples' tend to match up pretty well. If for some reason it doesn't match up for you and the dancer, maybe that's a sign.
If you're trying to figure out market rates expected for you, it might be worth further research. (Hint: if dancers avoid you, that is a sign that you aren't tipping market. If they bunch up around you, that is a sign that you are tipping over market) Of course, market rates vary based on how you present yourself.
I don't have anything meaningful on the topic in my opinion. If some extras do go down I.usually just tip $10 -$50 more unless we agreed upon some set price.
FS prices can be all over the map based on location (NY vs Ohio) and whether it's an upscale club or a dive - if all you paid her was $00 in total for FS I'd say that is too low for most clubs including dives - for me personally in a dive I go at least $120 to $150 w/ $150 to $200 being still in the dive ballpark.
Explaining to a stripper why one time she got a high tip, and 2nd time she got zero, means rating her like food critic to her face, and they tend to get very offended and angry when you talk to them like you are review a business on yelp to their face 3 feet away. I stick to just buying time now. If she is being shitty, I end it at 15 mins and say goodnight. Im not going to argue about a non-prearranged tip.
That all said, to the original question, it is probably a percentage thing. If the girl is getting $100, then $40 is a big difference. If the girl is getting $300, she is thinking in units of a Benjamin or more for a tip for an extra.
And, something I find works is to simply ask and negotiate the tip. I do not find this awkward.
I can do that for a tip.
Would $40 be OK?
Can you do $60?
Sure.
Great! Whip it out!