OTC missteps?
larryfisherman
California
I've been trying to improve my OTC game, but the results haven't been great. There were a couple of situations where OTC might have been on the table, but I wasn't sure, and I didn't follow up on it.
Situation A: After I got dances from this girl. I was putting my keys back in my pocket (I take my keys out of my pocket when I get lapdances), and she asked in a curious tone, "are those the keys to your hotel?" I didn't think much of it then, and I didn't pursue it then, but looking back on it I'm thinking she was maybe opening the door for OTC.
Situation B: At another club hung out with a girl for the vast majority of time I was there. Before I left we exchanged numbers. Her shift ended at 2 am, I left at 1 am. I woke up the next day, and I had missed her call at 4 am.
Do you think OTC was on the table with those two situations?
Situation A: After I got dances from this girl. I was putting my keys back in my pocket (I take my keys out of my pocket when I get lapdances), and she asked in a curious tone, "are those the keys to your hotel?" I didn't think much of it then, and I didn't pursue it then, but looking back on it I'm thinking she was maybe opening the door for OTC.
Situation B: At another club hung out with a girl for the vast majority of time I was there. Before I left we exchanged numbers. Her shift ended at 2 am, I left at 1 am. I woke up the next day, and I had missed her call at 4 am.
Do you think OTC was on the table with those two situations?
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She won't be upset if you are wrong.
I have set an alarm when i was expecting a call or text when the club closes. It may be pathetic but I don't miss many opportunities
Living and learning!
@K- that's not a bad idea with the alarm
The second one is a little more ambiguous. I've had girls ask me which hotel I was staying at without a conversion happening. I always stay in nice places, so that is never the issue. But at the very least you missed a natural lead in to a discussion about OTC.
Wow man. It is like seeing a hitter strike out on straight fast balls thrown right up the middle. You didn't even swing, lol.
We live and we learn I suppose.
The kind that charge by the hour. She wanted to know if you were staying at a ritzy hotel to see how much she could gouge you for.
The 2nd one was calling you to bail her out of jail or possibly for $300 so she could pay her rent the next day (with the promise of an AMAZING time in VIP next time you visit.
But that's just the skeptic in me.
Of the two situations, it was absolutely available however at 4am the only thing I care about is sleeping.
Improving one's OTC game = getting better at paying prostitutes for sex
In 4got's words (or more specifically, word)
Brilliant!
As for doing both at the same time... I've yet to hear of anyone attempt to ask one girl out on a civvie date while simultaneously offering $ to a prostitute for sex. If someone could pull that off he would have my eternal respect.
I have to ask, are you a dancer or a club manager trolling this site? Between this thread and your recent goofy statements of "fact":about the need for, and universal existence of, cameras in private areas of clubs (which btw are belied by the fact that there are quite a number of clubs without cameras in sensitive areas, but I just lost the interest to continue in that thread), I am starting to wonder about where your perspective is coming from in all of this.
And my statements of "fact" I clearly stated that I always believed or assumed, not that I knew.
1. When you are underage you are given one set of rules by grown men around you.
1a. Don't cheat.
1b. Don't dip your pen in the company's ink (I.e., cheating at workplace)
2. Once you are out in you or own and they figure you can handle it, they same guys let you in I a secret. It was a lie, sort of, but for your own good. ;)
2a. Men with means and opportunity get it whenever they can or want
2b. If your mind is stuck in rut; find something to play with. "Take care of business the. Get back to business." Find a civvie or an escort, discreetly, fuck her brains out 100% , get it out of your system fully, when get back to the task you were on and finish it. Everyone wins!
2c. If I can't afford it, let these guys know, and they will take care of it for me. These guys were dads of girls I went to HS or college with and we all top 3% dudes with some means.
2d. Don't tell your mom, or your sister, or your girlfriend, since no matter have you try to explain it to them, they WON'T understand. (They are right about that).
Flagooner, I think a lot of these dudes in late 30s and 40s, and 50s, who make enough money (like $150K) are all like this. Like 85% or more, I noticed. All married or serious girlfriends with kids, mortgage, etc. It was more like the broke dudes that stay faithful. All with escorts (private group with vetted members) or civvie affairs. Typically at work or the kid's school.
It was surprising to a young adult at the time (me) especially since a few years prior they were all giving me a different line (no cheating, be active in your kids lives and the community and church, etc.). Both are true, just from 2 different point of view, it seems.
That's my 2 ¢.
Larry, to put it in perspective, I recently had one of my paid OTC girls tell me I was her youngest "friend" and I am 20 years older than you. Now I was certainly also visiting clubs at your age, but far less frequently than I do now and I didn't drop serious coin in them. There is plenty of time for strip clubs and paid pussy when you are too old to have fun with young civilian girls - right now you should be building memories that will last you a lifetime and, perhaps, even thinking about things like an LTR and children (eventually).
Now the OP probably has more opportunities d/t the social group he's likely to hang out with, and hopefully he's maximizing that. However, I'm not going to project my reasons for SCing onto his and w/e they are, are his own. The caveat is that he protects himself from any financial or emotional harm. Personally, I am able to hookup with 6/7s to the occasional 8s in the civvy world and go to the SC to play with 9s and 10s.
I think the strip clubs have helped me a lot with my awkwardness around women. I'll take my new confidence to the civilian world.