deja vu tijuana is here and alive!

Cool, wish I was there. :)

ill rather go to Rocamor whorehouse away from the border

justme: Were they all Latina women or did you see any Caucasian women too? Do you know what rates the dancers were asking for 30 minutes in VIP? Thanks..

It sounds like a European FKK club.

Once again, Deja Vu just bitch-slapped Denis Hof. With Hong Kong Tijuana is even more the pussy monger's destination, making going out to out of the way spots in the desert to be overhustled and overcharged that much more unthinkable.

Yeah, the Nevada whorehouses have become over priced. The last time I was there, several years ago, prices had gone up too much. One of my buddies still goes there. He's nuts Pussy can be had for a lot less than Hof's prices.

if it is managed well they have a hot location and facility. nice, clean and big. nine poles. well lit stages. 47 rooms in the spa. problem is they're not hotel rooms. they have a centrally located restroom with showers. and I thought the room prices were a bit on the high side. need to drop it at least $10 every half hour. The girl prices are up to the girls for the half hour. from what I heard $80-$100 for half hour. negotable of course. The Mexican beer is three dollars a bottle. and the girl drink was $10.

and I do believe that technically all the girls are Mexican citizens but remember Mexico has a huge range of ethic roots and mixes. Some are as lily white as white can be. girls I saw last night I think would satisfy your particular want. I certainly enjoy a mix of girls. and I'm sure they're going to hire even more. keep in mind the main language is indeed Spanish. us English speakers need to try and learn at least enough to make our request. Believe me I don't speak Spanish. but I am trying to pick up some particular words or phrases.
I want to see dv tj succeed. and become just as popular as Hong Kong. and give us another great club for our enjoyment. I hope this déjà vu tj will work with the Hong Kong club as friends and not enemies.

Great info justme. Thank you. Sounds like the exact same pricing as Hong Kong.

I wonder if any of the girls would leave the club and go to the hotel next door at the casino. It's just a 2 minute walk and then, if you were staying there, you'd have your own room, shower, privacy, etc. If they were open to it, they may want a little more $, but it might be worth it.

The biggest problem of going to Tijuana Deals with the border. The US side is so dang slow in processing people. and the traffic in tj (because of the border problems) leads to the parking problem in San ysidro. timing is everything in dealing with the traffic. leaving tj in the wee hours of the morning by 4 AM... helps a lot especially if you're walking. but tj is worth the hassle. might even consider parking at one of the trolley stop parking lots and taking the trolley to and from the border.

good question traveling golfer. I did not explore that thought. all I can say is that in my experience with déjà vu girls and little darling girls and hustler girls in Las Vegas some waited till they got off their shift and a couple others took a break from work for OTC.

I also suggested to management déjà vu tj that the other girls that are not dancers also could be available (if they wish) be with a customer in one of the spa rooms. I say that because we know how some déjà vu waitresses and hostesses and the bargirls can be so hot.

I forgot to add that the spa rooms are $25 for half hour plus a three dollar cleaning fee collected upfront. certainly more expensive at this point than hong kong and adelitas.
Plus it be cool to keep the taxis at five dollars (or less) per ride from the border to these clubs and between the clubs.

the hours of operation is in a big flux right now. last night they didn't open until 8pm and closed this morning at 5am. their goal is to be 24/7. and I did not notice any food service. but certainly there's got to be cafés and restaurants in the casino area and in the mall that déjà vu is part of. should ask management about the food service. this one big advantage about Hong Kong and Adelitas. Great food options all around. not to mention the street girls.

What do you guys think of this plan?

Fly out of DFW Saturday morning and get to SAN around 10am. Get from SAN to the Mexican border (what's a hassle free way?) I was thinking Uber. Hop on a taxi in TJ and head to Cascadas hotel. Check in. Grab something to eat. After that go to Hong Kong and stay until 9ish. Take a taxi to Dejavu and stay until 2am. Come back to my hotel (hopefully safe). Sleep. Check out and go to Hong Kong for a little bit. Head back to SAN for early evening flight to DFW.

I think one change of clothes will be fine.
I have never been to California. Spanish is not an issue and I have a SENTRI card.

Now this has just opened, so we probably don't know the direction it is going to go.

One of the strengths of the Honk Kong Bar is that it clearly is set up to let you have whatever you want, I mean in terms of how much time you will be spending with a girl.

Another is simply that there are not many rules, the let the girls handle it how they want.

Now this Deja Vu, sounds like they are boxing you into these rooms, which are not a hotel.

HK bar, has overnight hotel rooms, short time rooms, the private VIP rooms, the collective VIP room, downstairs dance booths where FS can occur cheaply, and then a great deal happens in just the ordinary seating area. And they also have a restaurant.

But the real issue with Deja Vu is, will they try to eliminate front room GFE and try to turn it into a 'wanna date' place? If they do that, that will seriously undermine the back room GFE.

This is what they did in San Francisco, ruin the front room GFE, and force it all into 'wanna dance', which completely undermines the back room GFE.

The advantage of strip clubs, at least the potential advantage, is that there can be unstructured front room fraternizing. So it is just between you and the girl, and the girls are competitive and so they want to monopolize a guy as fast as they can.

Deja Vu has built itself up, a think tank really, by screwing up strip clubs, by making it so that they can get more money, and hire hotter looking less experienced girls, but by severely compromising what happens.

And yes, people always talk about foam shows, shaving foam shows, shaving cream shows, which clearly indicates that they are people who always keep a safe distance.

Nemesisk7, As always your expertise is appreciated and respected. Want to say anymore about this Rocamor? PM me if you wish.

https://vimeo.com/78970198

SJG

How can anyone complain about this place. Cute women who will fuck you cheap in a decent room with a bed, bath, and shower. And it is dirt cheap even if cost a little more than the other Tijuana places.

The issue is that Tijuana already had great places. Deja Vu is the inventor of the modern style of clip joint. Yes, it is more competition, and that is good. But what Deja Vu is very good at is analyzing how things go in strip clubs, and no brothels too, and figuring out how to better make them into money sucking machines which offer less.

At issue is, will they screw up the front room GFE and hence ruin the back room GFE. This is their signature, imposing rules.

SJG

SJG. lets hope that deja vu doesn't fuck this one up.
bavarian... stay in hong kong till midnight then head for deja vu tj. you gonna love hong kong and check out adelitas a few doors east on the same block. eat a taco at one of the taco carts. suggest the one just around the corner west of hong kong. then continue south and walk around the block and check out the street girls. you'll pass by the back entrances of hong kong, la chavelis, valentine and more... then left back toward calle coahuila past playboy and la gloria left again to adelitas, a small restaurant, a church, las chaveles main entrance, then the entrance stairs to cascadia hotel and back to the front of hong kong. lots to see without even crossing a street.

Damn.. Id never fuck a Mexican hooker, but I would definitely hang out there.

justme62,

Yes indeed, lets hope that deja vu doesn't fuck this one up in the same sort of a way that they have build their entire empire. Deja Vu calls itself a management consulting firm. They are a think tank. They have thought thru very carefully how things go at such venues. So when they come in, they have an agenda. They do not represent your interests. And they do not represent the dancers' interests.

Are you liking Deja Vu TJ better than the HK Bar?, and if I may inquire, why?

And we do need to consider that Deja Vu probably has not imposed whatever it intends to do on its place yet.

Do you know the rules for Toda La Noche, and is their any Saluda? Girls pushing drinks and getting fichas?

For myself, getting rid of the alcohol I would see as an improvement. But I also do understand that this is a big part of how these places make money.

You mention the street girls. They are intriguing to me as well. Less alcohol involved, and of all those in the Zona, these street girls are the most free, the least encumbered by standing obligations. They can do that they want.

If you don't mind my asking, have you ever partaken with them?

People say that the best of the street girls are one block South from the HK Bar. I believe that it technically outside of the Zona. I guess this is where this Deja Vu is too?

Anyway, most of the online pictures are only from inside the Zona. Some are from directly across the street from Dulce Gabbana.

https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…

Thanks for giving us the news about this new place.

SJG

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SJG, do you actually know anything? Mexican streetwalkers are PIMPED SKANKS. They are not free. Good Lord!

yes I have partaken of the street girls a few times but I feel much more comfortable in the clubs. Hong Kong and Adelitas are still my favorites. i don't think anything will ever replace Hong Kong. i'd like to see déjà vu tj really ramp it up. again I hope déjà vu tj and Hong Kong and Adelitas work together to make this even more awesome destination.

and I like the alcohol. :)

The best street girls are primarily on the backside of Hong Kong and over to the corner that goes down past playboy before turning west again past Adelitas

A lot of them are very cute and I have seen a couple of knockouts. timing is everything. The problem is you don't know if they're clean. some get checked and some don't. at least in the clubs like Hong Kong (and I would easily assume Adelitas) they get checked checked at least every month... and I've heard as often as every two weeks.

and as far as distance between Hong Kong and the new déjà vu TJ it's probably about 8 to 10 blocks to the east. The new déjà vu is three to four blocks almost directly south of the taxi stand after you come out of Mexican customs at the existing pedestrian entry into Mexico. just Southeast a pueblo amigo casino. it will be to the right of the three high-rises as you're walking from the Mexican pedestrian customs building. it's actually an easy walk. as with any where you walk in hey Mexican city town or village watch your step. they don't maintain the sidewalks as well as we do. you can really get hurt if you step into a hole. that even includes around Hong Kong and Adelitas.

Thanks for all the info

I apologize for my errors in my posts. I can dictate and type in my exact words and yet Siri will change it and if I don't proofread very carefully a change of words and other errors come up. but hopefully you guys can figure out my intent.
and i say again Hong Kong is still number one. and hopefully soon déjà vu tj will come in a very close second. and I will always keep Adelitas in my rotation of each visit to Hong Kong.

now to address the Flicha drinks. A number of times if I act fast enough with a girl before a waiter gets to us I can avoid the flicha drink. but honestly buying a girl a drink gives you a nice time to enjoy her and maybe even get a nice lap dance out of her in the show room before going up. look at it as a $10 lap dance in some cases. it can be great!!! then again if she just slams down the drink then maybe she's not such a good choice.

Great info justme. Thanks. I agree that the drink and even a lapdance are worthwhile investments. Gives you a chance to break the ice with the girl, build a rapport, and get a sense of whether she'll be personable or mechanical in private.

One note on Hong Kong girls getting checked by the doctor. I had a nice experience with one girl, who I spent an hour with. We both showered before and after. I was showering 2nd and she placed a call on her cell phone, while I was in the shower. I could hear part of the conversation and I thought she was making dinner reservations for that night, possibly with her boyfriend.

The girl and I were pretty comfortable with each other, so when I finished showering, I asked "dinner reservations for tonight?". She said, "no, doctor's appointment." So, I got the sense that this particular girl may go see a doctor after every shift that she sleeps with someone. It's possible it was just time for her weekly check up though. Or that I creeped her out. Lol. But I honestly got the idea that this girl was getting checked every day.

I also like paying extra for an hour and showering first. I've been there 3 times and 2 of the 3 girls showered first with me, which makes me feel a little more comfortable. The 3rd said she just arrived for her shift and hadn't even danced yet or anything, so she was freshly showered.

So, yeah, I think the Hong Kong girls are much cleaner and safer than any street girl you'll find. Plus, they seem as though they are working there of their own free will and not being pimped out, as Mikey mentioned above. The Hong Kong girls have had similar attitudes and demeanors as strippers I've met in the U.S., who are nice and confident, but not cocky.

I just entered a sugar relationship with a great woman, so not sure I'll be heading to Hong Kong anytime soon. It's a great place for those that want to check it out. I think I'll go check out Deja Vu though, just to see the quality of the lineup and check out the whole scene, even if I just stick to lap dances.

Mikeya02, I don't know what sort of a strange reality you live in. It is obvious that the TJ girls would usually not use a pimp, because what they do is lawful.

And this is extremely interesting:
http://www.anthropologymatters.com/index…

If they work on the street it is probably because they want to be their own bosses.

justme62,

Yes, your statement about where the best street girls are jibes with what others say. Most all of the pictures and videos though are not from there.

They are supposed to have regular exams. They are licensed. ( Isn't Mexico a wonderful place! ).

Their license used to be a little pink booklet, and they were required to have their health stamps. Now it is a card with a magnetic strip, just like a driver's license. So their health checks are recorded in computers.

Are all the girls standing out there licensed, and keeping up with their health checks? Hard to say.

So yes, Deja Vu is quite a ways from the present Zona Norte.

So then they do push drinks and get flicha's in Deja Vu?

What would you say are, as of right now, the main differences between Deja Vu and HK Bar, just as of today.

When you did street girls, where did you take them, just to the hotel they use, right there close? Ever spend more time with one, take her to lunch or do a longer session or Toda La Noche? Ever take one to more of an overnight type of hotel, with Jacuzzi?

Ever exchange contact info with a TJ girl and see her again by appointment?

Thank you so much for your most valuable info!

SJG

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Of course SJG talking out of his ass as always, but he doesn't care about facts just his ill formed opinion.

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Che, np. No slight at all. It's a team effort here. Everyone just trying to help one another. I learned a lot from this site, so just trying to give back a little.

such a drink push in déjà vu tj is every bit as heavy as in any other Mexican club I've been in. which is to say equal or even more than some clubs I've been to especially in the Los Angeles area such as tropical lei, or synn coi, Paradise, most spearmint rhinos The big exception is Las Vegas. very little pressure to buy the girl a drink. course they want you to go VIP and buy a bottle. HA!!!!

California has tough laws about hostess drinks, unless they are non-alcoholic. Las Vegas may also be that way.

Again, thanks for your info about this new Deja Vu Tijuana.

Saluda, Exit Fee? Toda La Noche?

and the holy grail, that which everything else revolves around, Front Room GFE?

SJG

as for a street girl accommodations... usually it's the hotel right by them. that includes the girls on the backside of Hong Kong and La chavelas.

you can consider the flicha drink the exit fee. and I tip the robe guy at Hong Kong a dollar.

Ever take a street girl someplace else, like to a different hotel for a longer time, like even Toda la Noche? Ever take a street girl to lunch, just to get the kind of fraternizing you might get in the HK bar, before sessioning?

So you can take a girl out of the HK Bar, just for a drink and maybe a tip to the robe guy?

Same for this new Deja Vu?

Thanks,
SJG

Toda La Noche?
that means all night doesn't it? that's between you and the girl what you negotiate with her. i've had some very close possibilities butt haven't yet actually done it. One girl said she'll sleep with me all night free. i've known her for over two years. a good fuck and most excellent blowjob. she has slept with me like three or four hours a couple of times after she got off work. then for one reason or another she had to leave.

The club has been added to TUSCL and TG & j62 have already added reviews - good job

" i've had some very close possibilities BUT haven't yet actually done it."

So can you stay overnight with a girl in Deja Vu TJ?

2 years? so you do exchange contact info and then see them by appointment.

sleeps with you for three of four hours after getting off work. This sounds like it would be very late at night. But then she has to leave? Sounds like you don't really know her, like where she lives and whether she has kids or an SO.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

You know, the HK bar is loved for its front room GFE.

SJG

i've taken girls after enjoying them at cascada above Hong Kong and gone to the restaurant immediately around Hong Kong such as on the backside to the left as you exit. but most the time we just go back into the the club and if were hungry order from the waiter. The bacon wrapped shrimp is so good and cost $10 for a plate which we share. and of course have another drink (or two or more) sometimes. couple of times I've stayed with the same girl for two hours straight. true GFE. it is wonderful. basically in Mexico anytime you got a girl sitting with you for more than two minutes you pretty much are going to buy a drink for her and keep her supplied with drinks as long as she sits with you. both my two hour sessions cost me $200 total each. pussy and drinks and food... but it was so good. :)

Sound great. You stay with a girl for a while, you need to feed her.

The HK bar is known because the GFE starts right in the front room, before you have agreed to anything more, except for maybe a drink. To bad it can't be like that with the street girls too.

In too many US clubs guys accept the "wanna dance" offer, and so what happens is non-GFE, mostly dissociation.

I don't want Deja Vu to set a precedent for that in Tijuana.

Thanks for your most valuable info.
SJG

I do have contact numbers for a number of girls I've enjoyed. my a few attempts to calling to Mexico haven't worked yet. I just haven't figured it out I guess. The girl I've known for two years I like her but I don't want to pursue her. she's just too old. 33. The one I do want to pursue never had any luck on trying to contact her and she moved on shortly after my second encounter with her. i'm always keeping an eye open for her. should be 19 now. damn she was so much fun. and so darn pretty.

as for a deja vu tj girl staying overnite... i suppose you could invite her to stay with you at her convience... i still have much to learn how things work with all these girls and the clubs. and maybe deja vu tj might have a room arangement for "overnite" stays. if not now then maybe later.

I think you understand my concern about Deja Vu, and how TJ could be screwed up by their highly structured and generally anti-GFE approach.

About these two you are seeing, they both sound great!

"true GFE"

To me this illustrates something I've tried to draw attention to before. In Mexico it seems that prostitution is more genteel. Things are more relaxed and trusting, and Mexican men treat women with respect. I learned that here in San Jose's Mexican bars and in their underground table dancing shows.

And then when you get into Latina's, Asians, and Blacks, it is far more likely than with Whites that they turn to sex work in order to earn a living. And so they don't lead destructive lives.

Where as with the whites they go into sex work because they are the family scapegoats, usually having been subjected to sexual abuse and all sorts of other abuse. So they use drugs, alcohol, and tobacco, and they squander their money. They don't really care about the money, as it goes right through their hands.

If they could be present to their pains, instead of using chemicals, then it would be different. Such White girls are politically conscious. But most are not.

What you are getting in Mexico from these two sounds really nice.

Thanks for keeping us posted. Your information is extremely valuable.

SJG

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Well, my sugar relationship just ended. She's not over her ex boyfriend yet, but I did get to sleep with her and she wants to set me up with her single friends. Anyway, I am free to go to Deja Vu now, guilt free.

Damn those ex boyfriends. Always coming back to ruin a good thing :-)

He dumped her for somebody else, but she's still pining over him. These sugar babies are as flaky and foolish as a lot of strippers I'm finding out. Oh well, the search continues.

"she wants to set me up with her single friends"

In a Sugar relationship, or Civvy?

Probably sugar. Before she flaked out, she was bragging to her friend that she met a great guy, etc., and her friend wanted to meet me. So, I think her friend wants me to be her SD, but haven't met her yet. Think I'll go back to scanning SA. I had turned down lots of other women for my first choice, so I may hit some of them up.

i love the GFE experience. nice that it can be an option. at my age GFE is awesome... especially with a fantasy girl.

Well, this morning, she's back in play. Life is so unpredictable and so are women. Sorry for the thread hijack.

justme62,

My experience is that you should not be trying to talk a girl into GFE or trying to get her to agree to it. Best is if it just happens, before you or she have agreed to anything.

And that this process might be screwed up is why I am so concerned about the arrival of Deja Vu.

SJG

SjG how did you get so full of shit? Other than just being racist against whites.

"And then when you get into Latina's, Asians, and Blacks, it is far more likely than with Whites that they turn to sex work in order to earn a living. And so they don't lead destructive lives."

Post 1 shred of evidence, of course you can't you just run with your retarded narrative.

"Best is if it just happens". so true and I fully agree. I tend to add more on impulse or inspiration and definitely chemistry.

Well, my point really is that you want to get GFE friendly with your girl before you even talk about sessions in booths or back rooms. And it is here that I fear that Deja Vu could really screw things up.

If you don't mind my asking, of this 33yo you've been seeing for some time, where do you go with her, a local hotel, which one? The one with the HK bar? One of the short time hotels used by the street girls? Some other place?

And when you eat with her, where?

Thanks,
SJG

SJG, you seem to have a very strong interest in these TJ clubs. It seems you've been very interested for a long time now.

Do you ever plan to actually visit? San Jose isn't very far away. If so, when? In the next year, the next 5 years? Just curious.

Yes, I plan to be expanding a business down there. Not interested in sex tourism, not at all. But I am interested in building an ongoing and intense relationship with other places.

Right now I am building a local organization. But I also have continuing and fully immersive around the clock responsibilities in local political issues.

SJG

ACT instead of add

^^^^^^ ??????

SJG

^ 'act' is a correction to my previous post.

The 33-year-old dancer I met on my first visit to Hong Kong over two years ago..and she still has access to the hotel Cascada. But for the last year she's been dancing at Adelitas. since I did not have a room at Cascada we just went into the hotel above Adelitas for the half hour. she and I have yet to share a meal. I only take her up maybe one third of the time that I see her working at the club. . but when I do see her working I always chat with her for half a minute and tip her A few dollars. she's not a beauty. butt she is a very fun girl.

and so far I have the GFE times with girls after I have taken them up arriba.

Seriously dude, just go to TJ, SJG.

ditto. you will love it.

Ongoing obligations and commitments. Never been someone into paying for recreation anyway. I'll be there, but it will be for business, and the women will become my representatives on the ground. But for right now, I am completely tied down.

SJG

I thought you go to a lot of massage parlors. That doesn't count as paying for recreation? Hmm...

I don't do things that way. Not interested in lightening my wallet just for escapes. There is always more involved in everything that I do.

SJG

Persons responsible for Deja Vu Tijuana have insisted that they have studied how things go in TJ, particularly every millimeter of the Hong Kong Bar's operation. They understand that it all depends on front room fraternizing and front room GFE, and that they are not going to do anything to screw that up.

SJG

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butt dvtj prices are too high. room should be $15. +$1 cum boy tip. girl should be $80 maximum for the 30 minutes.

Front room GFE, that's what it all comes down to.

And if you want to stay longer with a girl, how does that work, and can you take a girl outside? Onsite food?

SJG

maybe time to visit deja vu tj again and see how they're doing. from the reviews I've read not as well as I hoped

^ sounds interesting, let us know how it goes