deja vu tijuana is here and alive!
Jascoi
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friday 11pm. left hongkong and arrived at an active open deja vu tijuana. guess at least over a hundred customers in the main showroom. the manager showed me around. in the spa area is 47 rooms. it's not a hotel. you can rent the rooms a half hour of time $25. and have a central restrooms with showers you can utilize with the girl. each room has a bed in it with fresh linen. Nice selection of girls. it is going to be good here. i look at it as déjà vu and Hong Kong can complement each other as a destination for us mongers.
they are starting a foam show on the main stage with three girls.
and mexican beer is $3. :)
they are starting a foam show on the main stage with three girls.
and mexican beer is $3. :)
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I want to see dv tj succeed. and become just as popular as Hong Kong. and give us another great club for our enjoyment. I hope this déjà vu tj will work with the Hong Kong club as friends and not enemies.
I wonder if any of the girls would leave the club and go to the hotel next door at the casino. It's just a 2 minute walk and then, if you were staying there, you'd have your own room, shower, privacy, etc. If they were open to it, they may want a little more $, but it might be worth it.
Plus it be cool to keep the taxis at five dollars (or less) per ride from the border to these clubs and between the clubs.
Fly out of DFW Saturday morning and get to SAN around 10am. Get from SAN to the Mexican border (what's a hassle free way?) I was thinking Uber. Hop on a taxi in TJ and head to Cascadas hotel. Check in. Grab something to eat. After that go to Hong Kong and stay until 9ish. Take a taxi to Dejavu and stay until 2am. Come back to my hotel (hopefully safe). Sleep. Check out and go to Hong Kong for a little bit. Head back to SAN for early evening flight to DFW.
I think one change of clothes will be fine.
I have never been to California. Spanish is not an issue and I have a SENTRI card.
One of the strengths of the Honk Kong Bar is that it clearly is set up to let you have whatever you want, I mean in terms of how much time you will be spending with a girl.
Another is simply that there are not many rules, the let the girls handle it how they want.
Now this Deja Vu, sounds like they are boxing you into these rooms, which are not a hotel.
HK bar, has overnight hotel rooms, short time rooms, the private VIP rooms, the collective VIP room, downstairs dance booths where FS can occur cheaply, and then a great deal happens in just the ordinary seating area. And they also have a restaurant.
But the real issue with Deja Vu is, will they try to eliminate front room GFE and try to turn it into a 'wanna date' place? If they do that, that will seriously undermine the back room GFE.
This is what they did in San Francisco, ruin the front room GFE, and force it all into 'wanna dance', which completely undermines the back room GFE.
The advantage of strip clubs, at least the potential advantage, is that there can be unstructured front room fraternizing. So it is just between you and the girl, and the girls are competitive and so they want to monopolize a guy as fast as they can.
Deja Vu has built itself up, a think tank really, by screwing up strip clubs, by making it so that they can get more money, and hire hotter looking less experienced girls, but by severely compromising what happens.
And yes, people always talk about foam shows, shaving foam shows, shaving cream shows, which clearly indicates that they are people who always keep a safe distance.
Nemesisk7, As always your expertise is appreciated and respected. Want to say anymore about this Rocamor? PM me if you wish.
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SJG
At issue is, will they screw up the front room GFE and hence ruin the back room GFE. This is their signature, imposing rules.
SJG
bavarian... stay in hong kong till midnight then head for deja vu tj. you gonna love hong kong and check out adelitas a few doors east on the same block. eat a taco at one of the taco carts. suggest the one just around the corner west of hong kong. then continue south and walk around the block and check out the street girls. you'll pass by the back entrances of hong kong, la chavelis, valentine and more... then left back toward calle coahuila past playboy and la gloria left again to adelitas, a small restaurant, a church, las chaveles main entrance, then the entrance stairs to cascadia hotel and back to the front of hong kong. lots to see without even crossing a street.
Yes indeed, lets hope that deja vu doesn't fuck this one up in the same sort of a way that they have build their entire empire. Deja Vu calls itself a management consulting firm. They are a think tank. They have thought thru very carefully how things go at such venues. So when they come in, they have an agenda. They do not represent your interests. And they do not represent the dancers' interests.
Are you liking Deja Vu TJ better than the HK Bar?, and if I may inquire, why?
And we do need to consider that Deja Vu probably has not imposed whatever it intends to do on its place yet.
Do you know the rules for Toda La Noche, and is their any Saluda? Girls pushing drinks and getting fichas?
For myself, getting rid of the alcohol I would see as an improvement. But I also do understand that this is a big part of how these places make money.
You mention the street girls. They are intriguing to me as well. Less alcohol involved, and of all those in the Zona, these street girls are the most free, the least encumbered by standing obligations. They can do that they want.
If you don't mind my asking, have you ever partaken with them?
People say that the best of the street girls are one block South from the HK Bar. I believe that it technically outside of the Zona. I guess this is where this Deja Vu is too?
Anyway, most of the online pictures are only from inside the Zona. Some are from directly across the street from Dulce Gabbana.
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…
Thanks for giving us the news about this new place.
SJG
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and i say again Hong Kong is still number one. and hopefully soon déjà vu tj will come in a very close second. and I will always keep Adelitas in my rotation of each visit to Hong Kong.
One note on Hong Kong girls getting checked by the doctor. I had a nice experience with one girl, who I spent an hour with. We both showered before and after. I was showering 2nd and she placed a call on her cell phone, while I was in the shower. I could hear part of the conversation and I thought she was making dinner reservations for that night, possibly with her boyfriend.
The girl and I were pretty comfortable with each other, so when I finished showering, I asked "dinner reservations for tonight?". She said, "no, doctor's appointment." So, I got the sense that this particular girl may go see a doctor after every shift that she sleeps with someone. It's possible it was just time for her weekly check up though. Or that I creeped her out. Lol. But I honestly got the idea that this girl was getting checked every day.
I also like paying extra for an hour and showering first. I've been there 3 times and 2 of the 3 girls showered first with me, which makes me feel a little more comfortable. The 3rd said she just arrived for her shift and hadn't even danced yet or anything, so she was freshly showered.
So, yeah, I think the Hong Kong girls are much cleaner and safer than any street girl you'll find. Plus, they seem as though they are working there of their own free will and not being pimped out, as Mikey mentioned above. The Hong Kong girls have had similar attitudes and demeanors as strippers I've met in the U.S., who are nice and confident, but not cocky.
I just entered a sugar relationship with a great woman, so not sure I'll be heading to Hong Kong anytime soon. It's a great place for those that want to check it out. I think I'll go check out Deja Vu though, just to see the quality of the lineup and check out the whole scene, even if I just stick to lap dances.
And this is extremely interesting:
http://www.anthropologymatters.com/index…
If they work on the street it is probably because they want to be their own bosses.
justme62,
Yes, your statement about where the best street girls are jibes with what others say. Most all of the pictures and videos though are not from there.
They are supposed to have regular exams. They are licensed. ( Isn't Mexico a wonderful place! ).
Their license used to be a little pink booklet, and they were required to have their health stamps. Now it is a card with a magnetic strip, just like a driver's license. So their health checks are recorded in computers.
Are all the girls standing out there licensed, and keeping up with their health checks? Hard to say.
So yes, Deja Vu is quite a ways from the present Zona Norte.
So then they do push drinks and get flicha's in Deja Vu?
What would you say are, as of right now, the main differences between Deja Vu and HK Bar, just as of today.
When you did street girls, where did you take them, just to the hotel they use, right there close? Ever spend more time with one, take her to lunch or do a longer session or Toda La Noche? Ever take one to more of an overnight type of hotel, with Jacuzzi?
Ever exchange contact info with a TJ girl and see her again by appointment?
Thank you so much for your most valuable info!
SJG
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Again, thanks for your info about this new Deja Vu Tijuana.
Saluda, Exit Fee? Toda La Noche?
and the holy grail, that which everything else revolves around, Front Room GFE?
SJG
So you can take a girl out of the HK Bar, just for a drink and maybe a tip to the robe guy?
Same for this new Deja Vu?
Thanks,
SJG
that means all night doesn't it? that's between you and the girl what you negotiate with her. i've had some very close possibilities butt haven't yet actually done it. One girl said she'll sleep with me all night free. i've known her for over two years. a good fuck and most excellent blowjob. she has slept with me like three or four hours a couple of times after she got off work. then for one reason or another she had to leave.
So can you stay overnight with a girl in Deja Vu TJ?
2 years? so you do exchange contact info and then see them by appointment.
sleeps with you for three of four hours after getting off work. This sounds like it would be very late at night. But then she has to leave? Sounds like you don't really know her, like where she lives and whether she has kids or an SO.
Anyway, thanks for the info.
You know, the HK bar is loved for its front room GFE.
SJG
The HK bar is known because the GFE starts right in the front room, before you have agreed to anything more, except for maybe a drink. To bad it can't be like that with the street girls too.
In too many US clubs guys accept the "wanna dance" offer, and so what happens is non-GFE, mostly dissociation.
I don't want Deja Vu to set a precedent for that in Tijuana.
Thanks for your most valuable info.
SJG
About these two you are seeing, they both sound great!
"true GFE"
To me this illustrates something I've tried to draw attention to before. In Mexico it seems that prostitution is more genteel. Things are more relaxed and trusting, and Mexican men treat women with respect. I learned that here in San Jose's Mexican bars and in their underground table dancing shows.
And then when you get into Latina's, Asians, and Blacks, it is far more likely than with Whites that they turn to sex work in order to earn a living. And so they don't lead destructive lives.
Where as with the whites they go into sex work because they are the family scapegoats, usually having been subjected to sexual abuse and all sorts of other abuse. So they use drugs, alcohol, and tobacco, and they squander their money. They don't really care about the money, as it goes right through their hands.
If they could be present to their pains, instead of using chemicals, then it would be different. Such White girls are politically conscious. But most are not.
What you are getting in Mexico from these two sounds really nice.
Thanks for keeping us posted. Your information is extremely valuable.
SJG
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In a Sugar relationship, or Civvy?
My experience is that you should not be trying to talk a girl into GFE or trying to get her to agree to it. Best is if it just happens, before you or she have agreed to anything.
And that this process might be screwed up is why I am so concerned about the arrival of Deja Vu.
SJG
"And then when you get into Latina's, Asians, and Blacks, it is far more likely than with Whites that they turn to sex work in order to earn a living. And so they don't lead destructive lives."
Post 1 shred of evidence, of course you can't you just run with your retarded narrative.
If you don't mind my asking, of this 33yo you've been seeing for some time, where do you go with her, a local hotel, which one? The one with the HK bar? One of the short time hotels used by the street girls? Some other place?
And when you eat with her, where?
Thanks,
SJG
Do you ever plan to actually visit? San Jose isn't very far away. If so, when? In the next year, the next 5 years? Just curious.
Right now I am building a local organization. But I also have continuing and fully immersive around the clock responsibilities in local political issues.
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The 33-year-old dancer I met on my first visit to Hong Kong over two years ago..and she still has access to the hotel Cascada. But for the last year she's been dancing at Adelitas. since I did not have a room at Cascada we just went into the hotel above Adelitas for the half hour. she and I have yet to share a meal. I only take her up maybe one third of the time that I see her working at the club. . but when I do see her working I always chat with her for half a minute and tip her A few dollars. she's not a beauty. butt she is a very fun girl.
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And if you want to stay longer with a girl, how does that work, and can you take a girl outside? Onsite food?
SJG