HELP!!! :( I like a dancer but not sure if she likes or not
Igoham
Well about 10 days or so ago I went to a strip club with a friend to get over a long relationship that has ended. Seen a dancer that was smoking hot and looks like the kinda girls in into. She seemed very shy and I didn't get to talk to her when I first saw her. Eventually she made her way on stage on a pretty slow night (Thursday) I already had sent most my $1 bills away by now. So she's on stage dancing and we make pretty good eye contact so I throw out the remaining $8 out there. She then asks me if I could take her pants off while on stage and says I smell really good and we should dance. We end up getting a dance where I pretty much tell her I have a $100 budget. The dance is 10+10 I'm rock hard and my head is in the gutter by now. So I ask her for $100 more will you finish me off. Says yes like she was waiting for me to ask so we go to a more private area of the club and proceeds to pull my dick out and give me a good handy. At this point she has me finger blasting her under her panties and inside her. She then takes her panties off and rubs her self against my dick. Before I know what's hits me she ends up sitting on it and riding me for good 15 mins. While she starts to French kiss me I do for a few seconds and worry where she's been the kissing stops but lots of touching and riding me bareback. She lets me finish and ask me for my # so at this point I'm really freaked out cause for $200 I had sex and she got my number. I have asked her a few times if she's clean and she says she has only had 2 partners before me and assures me we are good. I text her a few times over the course of 4-5 days with 1 response saying she won't hang out with guys outside the club so I give up hope thinking it ain't nothing serious.she finally text me asking to hang out at the club. I do and we actually talk for 40 mins when the club is packed. She only dances a few times a month and is from a military fam. We both have had similar situations. She is 21 and i am 26 she has said herself I am not the guy she expects to meet her. She then ask me if I could hang out til she goes on stage cause she has stage fright but at this time it's 11 pm and already been there for a few hours. We then go for a dance and while it isn't as intense as last week it was good. No touching or happy ending tho. I ask if we could so something similar but she says the club is way to busy to even think about that right now. So after my $140 budget is up she asks if she should stop cause it's hurting both of us to Keep going without a good finish. We then stay in the private dance area and talk for another 15 mins or so just telling me she would like to become a massage therapist and she would need someone to work on to rack up the hours. She then massages my hands and throws out little various compliments toward me. We both get up and she follows near the exit and says if I ever need to talk or vent that I could text her anytime. I say I honestly would like to take you out for coffee or drinks just to hang out and she says ya we could do something soon. She then tells me she's not really a big texter so if she dont reply that same day she ain't blowing me off. She seems genuine and seems to work outside the club a lot. Is there more to this ?
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So you've met her inside the club twice and that's it, correct?
There's two ways this can go. The first: she genuinely likes you and will soon meet you outside the club. Or the more likely scenario: She wants to make you an "in the club regular" and keeps luring you back inside the club. she is either fucking anyone that has money, or she finds you "not as yucky" as the other PLs in the club and you're part of a small group of guys she's willing to fuck.
You'll have your answer, keep pressing (without being too demanding) to meet outside the club for something more like a "date" than just a romp in your bed at your residence. If she agrees, then you have dating potential, if she doesn't then accept that you're a wallet with a penis. Trust me, it's not such a bad situation, you get sex without the drama.
@sjg no I have not.
@shailynn yes only 2 times. I honestly don't know her well enough to say she is or isn't but I'm usually pretty decent at reading people and my gut tells me she's actually telling the truth. What I have picked up from her is while she's super hot she seems pretty genuine. She has mentioned to me that her day job is 45 mins away so she doesn't have tons of free time. I would be ok knowing the truth if she's trying to hustle me or if she likes me. Either way I'm ok with it as long as I we are on same page. I will still come see her at the club regardless.
@sclvr5005 I'm not trying to get to attached but if somehow we become real friends great but if we become friends with benefits even better.
Is she into you? Probably not but it doesn't hurt to try. She said soon which is a bad sign because if she was really into you but couldn't make a real date right away, she would have suggested her off day. But she didn't which is a bad sign. Though she really could mean soon. I'd ask again within the very near future. If she gives you the same line again, then she's leading you on for more dances. Don't know what hoe would fuck raw so maybe her priorities are all screwed up.
@tiburon she does have some things going on in her life that she explained to me. She moved in with her best friend (a girl) and they decided to try dating and said it was cool for a few months but now she's the one who is feeling unwanted. The bad thing is she explained to me she still lives with this person and trying to remain friends but feels very unwanted. When I seen her a few days ago she explained to me that she never has sex in the club and some story's of how her friend in college caught something and shes afraid of card's
@chell so I am ok with her being into my money cause I'm gonna meet her there again regardless but I'm just trying to figure out what her intentions really are. I would hate to ignore it if there was something more than friends inside the club.
She has also asked me to follow her on Instagram and yes it's her personal ig and she only has a few hundred followers so it's not like she's just handing it out to everyone.
Push hard to meet OTC for coffee. If she has nothing but excuses, you have your answer.
My guess is that she found you attractive in the way of a guy she would hook up for a one-nighter with at a party. Reading anything beyond that into it is probably wishful thinking. Either way, I would suggest to pick out what you want from her and try for that without settling for substitute alternatives. The calmer and less emotionally reactive you are with her, the better.
When you freaked out asking her multiple times if she was clean, that's another way of saying: All the blood had rushed out of my big head there for a minute, but now that it's back, I can't stop thinking about you as a diseased whore. I feel so dirty, say something to make it stop!
If you do end up being "friends" with her, it sounds like it could end up like with this guy:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4…
My advice would be to accept the rebound experience for what it was and focus your energy on other areas of your life. That way, you won't be continually distracted from dating someone you won't have these kinds of reservations about.
About interpreting statements made in the club, they generally have a three part structure:
The justification + the implied request [ the unstated reality ]
For example if a stripper says: "Just so you know, the bouncer is really instrustive tonight."
The justification is that "the bouncer is really intrusive tonight" The request is: Don't expect the dance to be like the last time I saw you [ when it was really slow and the rent was due / your breath wasn't as bad as it is tonight / etc ]
You probably won't be able to read a lie into this kind of statement, because the request part is true, and she's actually hoping you'll get the hint as opposed to being worried about whether you believe the justification part of the statement was.
"I text her a few times over the course of 4-5 days with 1 response saying she won't hang out with guys outside the club so I give up hope thinking it ain't nothing serious.she finally text me asking to hang out at the club."
You are a SC BF. Refusal to OTC (paid, unpaid, platonic, sex, whatever) means you are just another custie to her.
"I do and we actually talk for 40 mins when the club is packed."
She knows your ego is weak, or an aggressive wanna dance kills your feelings for her and any chance for a dance, so she lets you talk.
"She only dances a few times a month and is from a military fam. We both have had similar situations."
Not a career stripper. GFE is the easiest hustle for them to do/for them to play because they aren't pro-strippers. Non-career strippers can make a amateur custie melt like cotton candy for them with GFE/regular girl act. Hardcore PLs only want pussy on their dick, no talking, no kissing, no GFE, which freaks out the non-pro strippers as them being shady MFs.
"She is 21 and i am 26 she has said herself I am not the guy she expects to meet her."
You are too young to be in a SC. I get that ALL the time at one of my SCs, where I am the youngest customer ever there.
"She then ask me if I could hang out til she goes on stage cause she has stage fright but at this time it's 11 pm and already been there for a few hours."
You are respectful enough that she trusts you wont go all "so how you wanna earn it ho?" on her. No sex interest in you, but atleast you are better than gossiping with the other backstabbing pussy in the club (her coworkers).
"We then go for a dance and while it isn't as intense as last week it was good."
Explain.
"No touching or happy ending tho."
No touching? How so? That is an unforgivable sin to me. I wont say it to her face, but I ignore her from now on, and if she approaches, she never gets another $ from me. But be careful to not burn bridges by telling her why you dont spend on her or she will accuse you of calling her a ho. If she asks "why dont you want a dance?" you can answer directly that she doesn't allow touching.
"I ask if we could so something similar but she says the club is way to busy to even think about that right now."
IDK how to interpret that. She made enough $ tonight she wont do extras type stuff?
"So after my $140 budget is up she asks if she should stop cause it's hurting both of us to Keep going without a good finish. We then stay in the private dance area and talk for another 15 mins"
Are you paying LD prices for the 15 minutes of talk or not or did the clock end and no bouncer came by to kick you out of VIP? Did she just rip you off? No stripper is allowed to talk in VIP with me. No cuddling, no back rubs, no air dances, no talking unless its 1 or 2 sentence jokes to keep the mood up when kissing. Talking is for free on the main floor, never in VIP.
"or so just telling me she would like to become a massage therapist"
Massage therapist is a often another job as a sex worker.
"and she would need someone to work on to rack up the hours."
OTC?
"She then massages my hands and throws out little various compliments toward me."
This is now SS to keep you spending.
"We both get up and she follows near the exit and says if I ever need to talk or vent that I could text her anytime."
Could be just a nice stripper, or knows BF hustle works on you, or knows you are stupid enough to pay to talk in VIP.
"I say I honestly would like to take you out for coffee or drinks just to hang out and she says ya we could do something soon. She then tells me she's not really a big texter so if she dont reply that same day she ain't blowing me off. She seems genuine and seems to work outside the club a lot. Is there more to this ?"
Play along aslong as you aren't spending more than a tiny amount of $ on her, if she talks about OTC, then ghosts you, or flakes out, or ghosts you until she is at work at the SC, then texts you to goto the SC, you are being played. If she offers what she offered the 1s time ITC, again, ITC, same price and same services, I'd stick with her aslong as possible, even if its just ITC. If ITC sucks, challenge her to OTC, DO NOT let her convert flaked out OTC attempts to "come to the club", say you can't make it or your schedule or some other BS. You can still goto the SC, if she confronts you, say things changed and you came to the club, but DONT spend on her ITC unless she will perform.
Strippers are salespeople, salespeople are often gonna do what what they need to do to make that sale o/w they don't make any $$$ (& some salespeople are willine to go farther than others).
Believe us, stories like yours of newbie custies thinking a dancer is into them is a commom-occurrence & it rarely if ever is it genuine on the dancer's part.
Get your head out of your ass - she is willing to fuck you the 1st time she meets you in a club (and bareback) but can't meet you for coffee, that doesn't make sense if you are honest w/ yourself & stop thinking w/ your dick - she's a sex worker & everything she does related to the strip-club & customers is for $$$ - it's what they all do, it's their nature, it's THEIR JOB - and you would not want to date a stripper anyway, you don't know what you're getting into, it wont be "romance", it's often big-time drama (and even if they do see you outside the club it's offen business from their POV).
You are just in-lust even if you think you're feelings are real - when dealing w/ strippers is best to assume it's not real & enjoy it for what it is, and in the extremely unlikely chance she genuinely likes you then you take it from there (but it's exceedingly rare for it to be more than just busine$$).
Two last things:
1) What club did u meet hef at?
2) Hope you're not a damn troll wasting our time
Igoham-->" I am a used car dealer by trade so I like to think I have a pretty good knack for reading people and I have a good idea when they are honest and like I said my gut is telling me she isn't playing me"
Igoham's stripper-->"She then tells me she's not really a big texter so if she dont reply that same day she ain't blowing me off."
Ah, she's not a bit texter, check. Thinking that your hustle-detector is better than a professional stripper's hustle, leads to very poor results. You're already not picking up some of her crystal-clear hustle
Not trying to give you shit, just a little tough love... there's 0 indication this is anything but textbook romance hustle from a stripper who has brilliantly profiled a customer. My own personal rule is, if she's not spending time with me outside the club, for free, I'm absolutely positively just another customer, no matter what her words or my gut tell me; if we're spending some time outside the club for free, I'm likely among her favorite customers. If we're having sex for free, then I've passed customer status -- that's the only way to tell.
1) if you just want a piece of ass then just enjoy the ride on her terms as long as it also works for you
2) if u seriously want to date her, then anything more than just talking w/ her at the club is usually counter-productive (strippers tend to look down on guys that visit strip-clubs & spend $$$ just to get some)
I suggest taking heed of what the other guys have been saying. It really stretches the limits of plausibility that a hot stripper who was right on the spot every step of the way on your first visit would react as she did in this story. Especially since she says she knows the limits during different club conditions. Also, according to your post in the other discussion, it sounds like an extras club where what you experienced was typical.
If you want to attempt FWB, I would suggest to stop going to her club. Maybe she will go for it, or maybe she will just text you to come see her at the club because she's bored. Either way, I think you would be better off using this experience as a pivot to being more confident around other women you encounter IRL. If you keep on with her, it's predictable that it will have a frustrating ending. Also, you have to figure out how much would you enjoy the "friendship" when it is likely that others will be joining the $200 club.
@ppwh when I asked I pretty much knew that it was gonna be to busy because last week there was NOBODY in the lap dance area and this time at least 3 to 4 people around. She doesn't seem like the most intelligent person in the world but I don't think she's a dummy either. Not to sound like a stalker but I was worried enough about catching something I Facebook searched her number and got her real info. I googled her and she comes from a really good military family and she seems to have no online postings for escort and what not. Yes there are some girls that will ask you for extras here but mine pretty much waited for me to bring it up.
Honestly my last relationship started when I was 18 and I never cheated but like most men occasionally flirted with some girls that would flirt with me so my confidence level is not real high and I haven't tried to pick a girl up in so long that's it's like I don't even remember how lol.
As strippers go, she sounds like the kind most guys would like to run into.
A strip club is really not the place to go if you're not wanting to be led on emotionally. That's kind of what they specialize in. If you want it to be anything other than a stripper with you as her customer, you need to eliminate the other possibilities. Just like any woman, you can expect her to test you to figure out what you're actually looking for / will settle for. In most cases, the end of the stripper/customer relationship is the end of the relationship entirely.
If you're trying this hard to convince yourself how big of a whore she isn't, that's a sign. If you want a regular girl, then find one of those. It's likely that she is doing what she's doing on the DL in a club to avoid the kind of visibility you were searching for.
If you ended up with three extras girls in a row as a newb, I would consider that as a pretty sure indicator that it is an extras club. ;)
Not in a row but all in one night. I do have a terrible gambling problem $300-$400 a few times a week so not saying that's ok but after what got for $200 I feel like a fool gambling lol. So basically I'm ok going to a sc and spending a decent amount.
The problem with SCing comes when e.g., you think of $200 as offering your ideal experience and then spending $200 on dancer after dancer if the first one wasn't the jackpot, hoping to find what you were looking for. Kind of like when you keep doubling your bet to make up for what you just lost.
It sounds like you got lucky this time, but that kind of luck never seems to hold. The thing about spending increasing amounts of money in the club is that it just identifies you as a bigger mark, which gets you further from your goal by attracting sharks.
Due to your age and her age, you probably were BF material if she met you outside the SC. I've gotten experiences like you described. The age of the stripper has always been +/- 4 months of my bday. Psychologically, in her head, she treated you like a nightclub hook up, but charged for it in the end, and by her "rules" you are excluded as a BF. These are the BEST experiences for me. Instead of buying drinks (there goes $100s of dollars for nothing) at a regular nightclub until they are too drunk to say no, then report me to the DA the next morning and goto the ER for a rape kit test, I buy lapdances. I strongly suspect your stripper was single, doesn't want a BF because he will get abusive/jealous/insane/tell her parents what she does, so she very carefully picks her boys to fuck ITC to get her regular fill of cock. You were picked, feel lucky for that 1 experience, but it was a one time/short term thing. "I dont need a BF, I get all the men I want at work in the SC when I am horny".
"Honestly my last relationship started when I was 18 and I never cheated but like most men occasionally flirted with some girls that would flirt with me so my confidence level is not real high and I haven't tried to pick a girl up in so long that's it's like I don't even remember how lol."
Egh, you sound like me, strippers are practice GFs, not wifeys. The moment they stop performing you turn off the $. I live off the high of confidence boost after landing a stripper. DFK is pretty hard to get, I always turn down FS but no kissing strippers. Getting DFK with her arm around your neck and yours around her neck is a rush like heroin. Your SC experience will help with real life women alot, how to keep conversations going, how to compliment, how to smile and smirk and act flirty.
You can't approach it that way, and besides, that turns girls off fast. You have to look at what you can give to her, rather than to trying to get affirmation from her. You are King of the World, and so girls will respond to any favor you show them.
SJG
In Search of the Miraculous.Ouspensky. Ingles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvkCDucY…
I once met an ATF, and our first set of dances were unbelievable. She was exactly my types looks-wise, intelligent, lots of DFK, and all over me. We met right before I was scheduled to go out of town. We exchanged numbers so we could reconnect. I came back three weeks later, and it was basically just a standard dance. She could tell that I was disappointed, and I let her that was because the quality of dancers were trending backwards (which hacked her off). I did not see her for a couple of years. We danced, and things were better than ever (much DFK and mutual O's, she asked me if I wanted to meet OTC, etc.). I reminded her of our initial meetings, and she came clean that she had a boyfriend who roped in her ITC activities. So, sometimes you never know what causes things to change for them. You may find out now, in a few years, or never.
Either way, I suggest you decide what you want, pin her down on what she wants/is willing to do and how to make that happen, and then enjoy the fruits of your labor . . . or move on.
Best wishes.
After the promotional text where she ignores your responses, I think most here know how the rest of this story goes. ;)
For between-visit electronic interactions, there is always MFC. ;) While texting is the least favorite thing for strippers, on-line chat is what the cam girls specialize in.
Here's an example:
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showth…
Money quote: I'm sure she loves you like my boas love the mice I feed them.
Your new level of jadedness has added a shadiness tax of 25% to your extras.
In summary - she was probably attracted to you, was horny that night, but even after that still completely views you as a customer.
Oh, and the tooth fairy is real too.