Circumcision.

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shadowcat
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When I as born back in '42 most males born in the U.S. were circumcised. It appears that today the trend is going the other way.

Anybody have any insight as to whether strippers prefer one or the other? In all my years of clubbing I can't remember it ever coming up.

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mrrock
8 years ago
I've heard circumcised is what most females in general prefer.
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Frank2048
8 years ago
This is a very technical question lol
I also heard that female prefer circumcised, not just dancer. Do you guys know why?
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shailynn
8 years ago
This is a rather odd addition to this thread but I only comment what I hear.

A few years back a buddy of mine had a boy, and while his "family" was in the hospital the debate came up about circumcision. My buddy insisted on it and for some stupid reason his wife was against it. She is a faux hippie so I'm she's against anything "unnatural" and I'm guessing circumcision fell into that category. She's so fucking stupid she's in charge of the flouride treatments at one her older kids school, so explain how that doesn't fit into the "unnatural" category.

Anyway my buddy told me that the nurses overheard the debate and were joking with my buddy that they have been with circumcised and non-circumcised men and they all preferred non-circumcised.

Non-circumcised dudes seem to show up in European porn a good bit, Blair that I'm staring at guys dicks like SJG, I'm just pointing that out as it's much more common to be uncut over in Europe.
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crazyjoe
8 years ago
Why is shadow talking about dicks?
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motorhead
8 years ago
Jewish strippers only date circumcised men.

..... Because Jewish women won't touch anything unless it's 20 percent off



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crazyjoe
8 years ago
^^^ lol
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vincemichaels
8 years ago
Oh man, that's not PC, motorhead. LOL
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Papi_Chulo
8 years ago
I think it's mostly done out of cultural and/or religious traditions and it seems to be common in some areas of the world and uncommon in others - thus for folks that live in a country where circumcision is common; uncircumcised males may look odd - and vise-versa.

Per Wikipedia:

"... The procedure is most often an elective surgery performed on babies and children for religious and cultural reasons ..."

"... Evidence supports that male circumcision reduces the risk of HIV infection among heterosexual men in sub-Saharan Africa.[10][11] Therefore, The WHO recommends considering circumcision as part of a comprehensive HIV prevention program in areas with high rates of HIV, such as Sub Saharan Africa.[12] However, evidence for a health benefit against HIV for men who have sex with men is less clear.[13][14] Additionally, the effectiveness of using circumcision to prevent HIV in the developed world is also unclear.[15] Circumcision in general is associated with reduced rates of cancer causing forms of HPV[16][17] and risk of both UTIs and cancer of the penis.[4] Prevention of those conditions, however, is not a justification for routine circumcision of infants.[1][18] Studies of its potential protective effects against other sexually transmitted infections have been unclear ..."

"... Circumcision is most prevalent in the Muslim world, Israel, South Korea, the United States and parts of Southeast Asia and Africa. It is relatively rare in Europe, Latin America, parts of Southern Africa and Oceania and most of Asia. Prevalence is near-universal in the Middle East and Central Asia.[5][73] Non-religious circumcision in Asia, outside of the Republic of Korea and the Philippines, is fairly rare,[5] and prevalence is generally low (less than 20%) across Europe.[5][74] Estimates for individual countries include Taiwan at 9%[75] and Australia 58.7%.[76] Prevalence in the United States and Canada is estimated at 75% and 30% respectively.[5] Prevalence in Africa varies from less than 20% in some southern African countries to near universal in North and West Africa ..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcisi…

^ there is a colored map in section 5 (Titled Prevalence) of the above Wikipedia article
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Papi_Chulo
8 years ago
My two nephews were born in the U.S. (Miami); born in 2000 and 2003, respectively - I asked my brother about the circumcision/no-circumcision decision w.r.t. his sons and he was told by the doc that what they go by is if the dad is circumcised then they recommend it and if the dad is not then not so the boy will not see himself differently from his dad as he is growing up - my brother and I, being born in Latin-America/Caribbean where circumcision is not the norm, we are not circumcised so his sons aren't either.
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JamesSD
8 years ago
I dont think most strippers care if you're paying them.
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twentyfive
8 years ago
Ask on Stripper Web and if you aren't circumcised, I'm sure there will be one or two there, that will gladly do that for you.
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sharkhunter
8 years ago
In the US I read it's a carryover from the 1800's when it was done to curtail masturbation during the Puritan days when that act was thought of as evil and something that should not be done according to those in charge. Nowadays I read doctors make money on it selling the circumcised skin to treat fire victims.
There is usually no valid reason medically to circumcise. It reduces sensitivity of males and is like a tradition to mutilate that society has accepted in some circles in my opinion.
Europeans typically do not do it and they do not have a gazillion problems with their dicks.

It's like an accepted form of violence against men. It wouldn't surprise me if men in the US and Middle East have suppressed memories of the violence and pain and that results in them being more violent. Not that guys in the US or the Middle East are more likely to get violent but it has made me wonder when I read an article suggesting the possibility.

All strippers probably care about is how much it will cost them. Saying it reduces cancer is like saying you have a reduced chance of breast cancer if you cut off your tits. There are big trade offs if you cut off body parts at birth that the victim will never get to enjoy. My opinion only.
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Papi_Chulo
8 years ago
I would imagine it's prevalent in the U.S. b/c of it's Judeo-Christian heritage.
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sharkhunter
8 years ago
It also causes discomfort in young men and causes skin with hair to get stretched up onto their dick during erections. Circumcision is not natural. If you cut off a lot of sensitive skin, the hairy skin from the pubic area gets stretched up to replace it because there isn't enough.

If you hear about guys taking a long time during sex or not enjoying sex very much, they were probably traumatized early on in my opinion or they are just old.

I think it's like a tradition to cut off females cliteris that some still do in Africa. Some women are in favor of violence against men too. There isn't a law against it either when it is delivered like this.
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gawker
8 years ago
I was watching porn with my ATF one night and an uncircumcised guy was performing. She said she prefers uncircumcised so long as the guy is clean. She says she's encountered some uncircumsized guys with a waxy substance collected under the foreskin. She called it penis butter.
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Imamutt
8 years ago
Penis butter aka smegma.
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sharkhunter
8 years ago
I heard in Africa, some cut away the extra skin around female genitals, basically I believe their outer labia flaps. Circumcision is similar thinking in my opinion that it's ok to keep doing barbaric rituals because it's tradition or some other excuse. That's kind of like having a lottery to kill someone in town to keep the rain coming because God will be angry if we don't satisfy God by doing the traditional thing. Similar thing. Crops dry up, people suffer. Why? some blame not following the tradition and would say it's against religion. That's if the tradition said someone must die if selected by the lottery. They still stone girls in the Middle East if the girl gets raped because they may accuse her of adultery or illegal sex. Doesn't matter to them if she got raped and is a victim. Following traditions can be barbaric.
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Tiredtraveler
8 years ago
There are several reasons other than societal for circumcision:
1} helps prevent infection as stated above- most boys are not taught haw to maintain their penis and if you are not circumcised you must pull back the skin to pee if the skin interferes with that function and you must wash and dry under the foreskin to help prevent bacterial growth.
2} The argument that circumcision decreases sensitivity is BS that mostly comes from the gay community and so what if it does it means you last longer.
3} the last reason goes back to maintenance; I have had girls (both civilians and pros) tell me they will not give a BBBJ to an uncircumcised man and will put the condom on with their hand rather than their mouth because most uncircumcised penises stink. Many have also said that they always check for "head cheese" under the foreskin a sure sign of a yeast infection from poor hygiene.
Bottom line is a cut penis is lower maintenance and less likely to rot and fall off.
No I am not Jewish
@papichulo got it correct
Like many religious traditions like eating "kosher" (really just old food safety rules on how to clean and prepare food, plus which animals to eat, remember pigs carry diseases), they have a basis in preventative health measures.
Muslim mutilation of women is a sick control thing the same as castration, I think the mutilation of women's genitalia stems from fear and hatred of women because they have the exclusive power of childbearing and like the Orlando murderer most mullahs that spew that shit(hatred of women and the west) are lazy closet homosexuals who bugger boys. Have you ever noticed that they never say which sex the "57 virgins in paradise" are.
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Corvus
8 years ago
Some good comments above. Circumcision does have its roots in religious and health concerns. And while it may or may not be more common in developed countries, if given the choice I would have declined. But I was not asked.
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georgebailey
8 years ago
My urologist says there is no question circumcised is cleaner and healthier. He doesn't do them, because he only sees adults (men and women), so I don't think money is a factor. He does just fine with prostates. He did warn me about penile fractures. He gets called into the ER a few times a year. Says it's real mess to fix and very painful. Lots of blood.
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Papi_Chulo
8 years ago
If one is born w/ that foreskin is for a reason is it not?

Removing it may be sorta like saying it's better to have a shaved head b/c it's "cleaner" or that way you won't catch lice.
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sinclair
8 years ago
Is a fear of smegma the reason why many strippers will only do CBJ?

We are born with an appendix and it has no function. Possibly when humans were evolving, it had a function.
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Papi_Chulo
8 years ago
The appendix having no function has been the traditional school of thought, buf I "think" I heard that that may not necessarily be the thought these days but not sure.
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gawker
8 years ago
I've heard that the appendix filled a need as we were evolving which was a repository in which bone fragments which had been ingested could slowly dissolve.
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shadowcat
8 years ago
My 8 yo grand daughter just had her's removed 2 weeks ago. In and out of the hospital in under 12 hours.
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Imamutt
8 years ago
Shadow's granddaughter had a foreskin ???
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
I read an article on Salon where expecting parents were discussing what to do pertaining to their son. They felt uncut was better.

But then the subject of BJ's came up, especially rather spontaneous civilian ones. They felt that young women preferred cut, and so he might lose out. And they talked to some women. ( promiscuous was the word they used, and some were strippers. )

But then they considered that this view might be unique to the US, that in Europe they might be more accepting of uncut.

My .02

SJG

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vincemichaels
8 years ago
Txtittyfag and Douchester never were circumsized, they were born dickless. That's why these pathetic ones are always whining.
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twentyfive
8 years ago
Circumcision as Jewish tradition just shows the optimism of Jewish people everywhere, They cut a bit off before they even know how big it's going to be !
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
I have heard discussions about it. They say that uncut is better for fucking pleasure.

But some question whether or not women like to BJ the uncut? But then some say that resistance is only from American women, that around the world women have zero problem with it.

Curious.

SJG

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