Stripper web - PL Enlightenment

Fuck them hoes.

Yes, it's all theater. It's all an act. The thing they like the most about us is what's in our wallets. It's why they can like young men, old men, fat men, skinny men, ugly men, married men, desperate men, lonely, insecure men, stupid men, intellectual men, arrogant men, mid-life crisis men, ad nauseum. But hey, if you spend money and treat them with respect, they will pretend to like you even more! It's better than a casino! Everyone comes out a winner! Who else in the world can make an aging, overweight guy feel like the stud he never was in high school, if but for an hour or two? Isn't that worth a paycheck every now and then? Doesn't that give a guy a break from the incessant barbs and snipes and criticisms of a ten year spouse? Just have fun indulging the fantasy. Or find a way to make your real life more like you really want it. Your choice. The world owes you nothing. Especially strippers.

Ya...fuck her in the mouth

Rech, I've known what's wrong with me all along. I turned a blind eye to all that is logical bc I was enjoying the ride!

@aks451 I thought strippers hated young men? I thought we treated them with the respect they deserve, but don't normally get.

Strippers hate everyone - young, old, rich , poor, male, female. It don't matter. You are just a wallet wrapped in skin to most of them.

-->"This is evil in its purest form. How To Maximize Your Hustle instructional books, websites, DVDs, training workshops, social science conferences and seminars? "

Really? That's the least irksome part of SW to me. The girls are in a sales job; if they are motivated enough, why begrudge them the same thing every other salesperson in the world does -- seek training. Most strippers do NOT seek out SW-type training, but some do, and really, if you truly "had no idea how organized and calculated the game really is", then it's solid education for you, too.

I think there's a lot to be repulsed about when it comes to SW, but for me, hustle tips (especially if not unethical) are not one of them...

In the end, best to follow the advice here: decide what experience you're looking for, and seek it out without compromise and without getting emotionally involved, respecting both the strippers and (more importantly) yourself along the way. It's the "respect yourself" part that most guys seem to have trouble with!

Subraman, as per usual, for the most part, you are spot on. The concept of honing sales skills is not in itself bad at all. I could have been more specific about the language that is put out there in an effort to dehumanize the customer, and in sizing up the mark as a lamb being led to slaughter. Of course, this is the only way even the most insensitive mind can justify some of the hard tactics promoted to leverage more than fair compensation for services. However I do understand this is the nature of the bidness and I am glad for the education, and further, grateful that it didn't come at a much higher cost. Believe me, I have a tremendous amount of empathy for anyone who has endured abuse, as certainly many of these women have, to which I will refrain from extrapolating on why that is so.

Yea, SW is a rough read for most PL's but it is when the sc hustle is fully understood and accepted by the PL that the real fun begins.

My job involves some amount of sales (although I recently hired a sales guy to isolate myself from the torture of sales trips). I have very little patience for unethical sales practices (which are the bread and butter of the SW "hustle"). I would not do business with a car dealer that I found unethical, even if they sold the only care I wanted. That said, I can cut strippers a little slack in this area. After all, an unethical car salesman is not in such a treacherous marketplace. There is very little chance that someone will try to slip a finger up their car salesman's ass or try to bite their nipple. Strip clubs can be a hostile environment to work in, which can breed a kill or be killed attitude.

At the least, it can give you a leg-up on negotiations. It all boils down to a business transaction in the end.

Aks nailed it. His words should be bronzed and added permanently to this site. They answer many of these discussions.

A stripper's job, and motivation to be there, is to make as much $$$ as possible - PERIOD - looking for anything different from strippers is a fool's errand to say the least.

I would argue there are two basic stripper strategies (three if you count "Lazy Stripper who is happy to make more than McDonalds"):

1. work the room, find the money, give guys what they want, or at least enough to leave them happy and coming back for more

2. ROBS. Blatantly lie. Burn the lot. Rely on customer churn and dumb money.

The former are great salespeople, the latter are shady.

-->" I could have been more specific about the language that is put out there in an effort to dehumanize the customer, "

Yeah, I hear ya on that. I have seen interesting hustle exchanges, but also seen plenty of clearly unethical and dehumanizing exchanges there, both in hustle threads and, well, every other kind of thread. Of course, the guys on tuscl who gratuitously call the women "sluts" or whatever are doing the same thing, and it's also clear that that attitude isn't woven through every discussion, nor do the guys cheer on stealing and the like, the way they do on SW. The contributors there are definitely repulsive; I think my lucky stars that no strip club I've ever been in functions the way the girls all claim they act, since it's pretty clear most don't act anything like what they claim.

Evil in its purest form? Lol. It's just the counter reading material to our (not mine) PUA crap. Each side is looking out for itself. No harm in that. May the best hustle win!

^ easy for you to say - you already have a pussy - the rest of us PLs are SOL