still possible to return for OTC offers from past? RISK of PL life?

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serrano
I AM STUPID??? Have I missed a number of OTC chances that have come before me? I am now realize the error of my ways, clouded by the pall of my cursed marriage and self-hoax of internal "moral compass?"

And I have heard several my favorite dancers before asking me:

"Where are you staying tonight? I bet you're staying at Wynn..."
"May I give you my number?"
"We should swap numbers"
"Let's go get something to eat, let's go..."
"I have fantasy right now about making out and fucking in trashy hotel room..."

Of course, some might just wish my number to drum my business when they are slow in club as I spending generously often, yet perhaps some of the above are true invitation. Yet I have reply to the pretty dancers, "Oh, no thank, let just keep it inside this club." I AM THAT FOOLISH?

Now realizing life too short for missing out on such potential incredible experiences, yet still I am frighten by my impending metamorphosis into bona fide "PL."

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K
9 years ago
Life is too short. Would you rather regret doing or not doing? Go for it
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maho
9 years ago
All those lines seem forward enough to suggest they may be open to OTC.

One thing I have noticed is when visiting my favorite club out of town, and mention that I am from out of town, some of the girls will ask if I'm staying overnight. Have never thought much of the question, and perhaps it is an innocent small talk type of question, but a part of me wonders if it is a small hint or opening that they might be willing to do something OTC that night? I don't know....
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
One of my MILFs said on her write up: Life is short, Live large." And she's a redhead. You know what that means .....
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
We all evolve in strip club PLdom at various rates. Under the same curses as you, I went to strip clubs for 15 years until I got a blow job. I went for 17 years before I fucked a stripper. I went 18 years before I had my first OTC.

Then I got separated. In the past roughly two years, I've had ITC sex of various types with at least a couple of dozen strippers, maybe more. I've had OTC sexual adventures with over a dozen strippers. Many were under 21. I found a DS x 3. I fucked them all bareback and took two of them on trips all over the world. The newest one is only 18, and I'm her strip club mentor. A 22 yo stripper started fucking me for free and refusing money. I developed a system for fucking brand new low mileage gorgeous strippers who have never done an OTC or extras and don't plan to. Most important of all, I met the ultimate perfect stripper who like a complete fucking idiot I fell in love with. And that incredible young woman who I will never forget taught me to smoke weed -- the wonder drug made by the strip club gods to aid us towards the ultimate stripper experiences. And somehow, maybe miraculously, I kept my job through it all, so far at least.

In other words, I had a thousand times more fun in the last two years than in the previous 18 years combined. I faced the same pivotal moment as you. And I made the right decision.

So absolutely fucking yes you should have your complete fill of all the strippers that the little head desires and that your wallet can pay for. I've had two teenagers (of legal age) in the past week -- they're unbelievably glorious. Being inside them is as close to a fountain of youth that we will ever find.

I'm gonna write that in my high journal.

But don't try going back to the ones who made previous offers. No need. They're everywhere. And if you want 18 year olds, read my system. Good luck. Post stories.
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Cowboy12
9 years ago
I feel like i've missed a few subtle hints for OTC action over the last few years too.
Reading the posts on TUSCL have really opened my eyes to the possibilities.
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gammanu95
9 years ago
The only time a stripper gave me her number was about a year ago in Phoenix. I was so drunk she had to put it in my phone for me. "Elin". I'm pretty sure she was hot, just like Tiger's model ex. Always regretted not following up, but feel it would be awkward now.
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gammanu95
9 years ago
Right, Cowboy. It was pre- TUSCL for me, too, otherwise I might have got the hint
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Subraman
9 years ago
serrano-->"Have I missed a number of OTC chances that have come before me?"

cowboy12-->"I feel like i've missed a few subtle hints for OTC action over the last few years too. "

gammanu95-->"The only time a stripper gave me her number was about a year ago in Phoenix."

Hey guys, I think you're still a little lost. Most of us don't get OTC by looking for subtle hints -- we ask, and make it happen. In fact, a number of us, including me, are kind of turned off by high-volume OTC girls who proposition everyone and make it part of their business model ... I specifically like the fact that the strippers I see OTC are low volume and probably not fucking as many guys as an escort would be (although, to be quite honest, I do enjoy the chase, too).

In addition -- and this might make you feel better -- her giving you her phone number means NOTHING. It is not a subtle hint for OTC or anything else. Half the time, it's nothing but an extension of her marketing outreach, so she can send you occasional, "baby, I miss you! When are you coming to see me?" messages. Often, she doesn't even remember who she gave her number too, and just doesn't respond when you text.

In short, you're still not learning the TUSCL lessons if you're waiting for girls to give subtle hints or if you think getting a phone number is an indication she's willing to do OTC. There's nothing to be shy about, just own it and pursue it, which includes taking the risk of making the first move (e.g., "Will you see me outside the club?"), etc. You don't need hints -- I get NO hint from most girls I take OTC -- I just ask anyway.
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Dominic77
9 years ago
The worst I've had a dancer say (for *tame* requests, but requests still) is:

"No, I don't do that."

Most are happy to tell you what their boundaries are. Else, how would you know? It's the typically SW chick ( 0.1%) who get upset, NOT the typical dancer (99.9%), IMO.
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san_jose_guy
9 years ago
I think I understand the OP. I was in exactly the same situation. Civvies and strippers throwing themselves at me, when I was married, and it all driving me crazy because I had to decline.

Eventually liberated, and trying to hunt these women down. Can they still be had?

So I start running them down and finding out.

Almost always the answer was NO!

1. Married men are attractive to women because they look married, they are in harness, they are doing what they are supposed to do, what women want them to do.

2.. Single men are more of a variable for women.

3. A newly divorced man has shit all over him and women run from this. It really takes time, years often, for a man to rebuild himself.

4. Women do stuff on a short time table. If you turn their offer down, that is it, it is withdrawn. Women function on a much shorter timetable than men do. Their life objectives are always very short term, because they change and their prospects change much more quickly than a man's do. A man can afford to wait, a woman cannot.

SJG

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seaboardrr
9 years ago
"One of my MILFs said on her write up: Life is short, Live large." And she's a redhead. You know what that means ....."

.....she's fat and 4'11" and only posted head shots
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JohnSmith69
9 years ago
Seaboard, good guess but no. She used to be very hot and even in her late 40s she's still quite fuckable.
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