Discussion of San Jose and San Francisco
san_jose_guy
money was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
All the clubs in Santa Clara County are strictly no touching at all. Most do not have anything like a VIP room. Of those few that do, the rule is still going to be no touching. This is why I've paid dancers the full dance fee just to sit and talk with me in the front room. In the VIP rooms, and in our limited number of clubs with booths, they can't do anything beyond what they do on stage. Women customers always welcome, but nothing physical ever happens. Same for the one club in San Mateo County, though there most of the dancers do OTC regularly.
The last guys who tried to change the no touching standard in Santa Clara County were each simultaneously pulled over on highway 101 driving to Gilroy, and then they spent several months in jail before they were even allowed to sign their homes over for bail. Our county DA will do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING to make sure Santa Clara County does not go the same way as San Francisco.
So in San Francisco, the costs are high. Parking is always hard in San Francisco, usually need to use pay lots.
In California you can have alcohol or you can have nudity. So you can divide the clubs into these two categories.
Personally I don't see California as a good place for Strip Club Tourism. Maybe decades ago, but not now. At least not Northern California.
Also, you get better service in places that you are known in, places you can visit regularly. So I'm not a fan of sex tourism anywhere.
People say Club Fantasy in Sacramento is good, a dive, and ethnic, but I plan to go their. And people love that San Gabriel Valley in the Greater Los Angeles Metro. I plan to go there.
The problem with San Francisco is that there is still a shortage of clubs. There are still barriers to opening one, and so the clubs we do have are not competitive. We don't have these most extreme kinds of dives, places that don't deserve to be called strip clubs, that they have in many other places. On the whole, the Bay Area is quite well policed.
So as most of the San Francisco clubs have world famous names and are on land mark real estate, they can make more money selling an expensive open ended fantasy than they can by delivering. There are no legal risks to selling a fantasy. So with whatever you might want, you will be told that it could potentially be available, its just that the price is so high that you should be able to see that it couldn't be worth it. They don't tell you that what typically goes on in the club is rarely beyond mid-level mileage. In my view, these sorts of clubs are playing guys for chumps.
We do however have Swingers Clubs
http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M70832…
I have not been to these. But the four San Francisco and the two San Jose clubs are all well established and well known. Some people go to Swingers Clubs just to watch, and many only have sex with the person they came with. So you don't have to "swing". Never any pressure to participate. Tangerine should be in a commercial building, and so it will feel more like a night club.
Here on TUSCL though we are fortunate to have some San Francisco experts. Perhaps they would like to chime in.
SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…
Barbara Dennerlein "Swing the Blondes" on Hammond B3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf4tbCRu…
http://www.marshallandogletree.com/#!bla…
http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M70832…
The 32 pedal C to G standard for classical organ is extremely well established. But the Cameron Carpenter and M and O have indeed added another 5 pedals on each end.
http://www.cameroncarpenter.com/wp-conte…
So we now have 42 pedals, G to C. And also the standard was constant pitch per semitone. They have changed this too.
And also, this M and O uses rotary speakers to do the 128' octave, C = 4.2hz
The last guys who tried to change the no touching standard in Santa Clara County were each simultaneously pulled over on highway 101 driving to Gilroy, and then they spent several months in jail before they were even allowed to sign their homes over for bail. Our county DA will do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING to make sure Santa Clara County does not go the same way as San Francisco.
So in San Francisco, the costs are high. Parking is always hard in San Francisco, usually need to use pay lots.
In California you can have alcohol or you can have nudity. So you can divide the clubs into these two categories.
Personally I don't see California as a good place for Strip Club Tourism. Maybe decades ago, but not now. At least not Northern California.
Also, you get better service in places that you are known in, places you can visit regularly. So I'm not a fan of sex tourism anywhere.
People say Club Fantasy in Sacramento is good, a dive, and ethnic, but I plan to go their. And people love that San Gabriel Valley in the Greater Los Angeles Metro. I plan to go there.
The problem with San Francisco is that there is still a shortage of clubs. There are still barriers to opening one, and so the clubs we do have are not competitive. We don't have these most extreme kinds of dives, places that don't deserve to be called strip clubs, that they have in many other places. On the whole, the Bay Area is quite well policed.
So as most of the San Francisco clubs have world famous names and are on land mark real estate, they can make more money selling an expensive open ended fantasy than they can by delivering. There are no legal risks to selling a fantasy. So with whatever you might want, you will be told that it could potentially be available, its just that the price is so high that you should be able to see that it couldn't be worth it. They don't tell you that what typically goes on in the club is rarely beyond mid-level mileage. In my view, these sorts of clubs are playing guys for chumps.
We do however have Swingers Clubs
http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M70832…
I have not been to these. But the four San Francisco and the two San Jose clubs are all well established and well known. Some people go to Swingers Clubs just to watch, and many only have sex with the person they came with. So you don't have to "swing". Never any pressure to participate. Tangerine should be in a commercial building, and so it will feel more like a night club.
Here on TUSCL though we are fortunate to have some San Francisco experts. Perhaps they would like to chime in.
SJG
https://sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/…
Barbara Dennerlein "Swing the Blondes" on Hammond B3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf4tbCRu…
http://www.marshallandogletree.com/#!bla…
http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M70832…
The 32 pedal C to G standard for classical organ is extremely well established. But the Cameron Carpenter and M and O have indeed added another 5 pedals on each end.
http://www.cameroncarpenter.com/wp-conte…
So we now have 42 pedals, G to C. And also the standard was constant pitch per semitone. They have changed this too.
And also, this M and O uses rotary speakers to do the 128' octave, C = 4.2hz
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That's all I need to know. I'll stick to Detroit.
So what we do have are AMPs and Swinger's Clubs
But there are some most notable TUSCL members who could offer their expertise on San Francisco.
SJG
Revolutionary Organist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xVruuES…
Cameron Carpenter: Rachmaninoff's Paganini Rhapsody for Organ & Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F79Bgeqy…
This guy and his M and O modernized organ are out of this world!
Cameron Carpenter Bad Boy of the Organ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XECkSZvv…
Cameron Carpenter- Killing Me Loudly: On the Abdication of the "King" of Instruments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeOvWB8T…
www.sciencealert.com/a-canadian-province…
I think a basic income guarantee is mandatory. Capitalism is what creates unemployment. And Cecil Williams and the people who run Guild Memorial United Methodist Church in San Francisco have got it right. Poverty is caused by social marginalization.
So a corollary is simply this, everyone wants to do well. They want to win the admiration of family and friends. So if they are not doing well, then there must be some social marginalization or disability at work here. But as the main problem is marginalization, then we should not talk about disability, as usually this just means more marginalization.
And of course it is absurd that people should be accepting psychiatric labels. These are just an extreme form of oppression.
So for there to be justice there has to be this basic income guarantee, or what amounts to cradle to grave welfare.
The typical person on welfare takes far less out of our economy than those employed do. And if the welfare recipient is not driving around much in a car, then they are treading far more lightly on the earth than those who senselessly burn up gas and dump CO2 into the atmosphere to do jobs which produce absolutely nothing which people need to live.
Now welfare takes money out of gov't coffers, but in the US welfare has never been more than 3% of federal expenditure. This is much less than corporate welfare and other expenses directed to the betterment of the middle class in order to maintain political allegiance, or to keeping the poor down. So welfare is a cheaper way to keep our society going than the present state of affairs.
And then as far as federal accounts, it is the federal gov't which controls the printing press, the furnace, and interest rates which multiply the availability of money by the inverse of the interest rate. Suffice to say, federal accounts and the money supply are all under gov't control, hence it is artificial. It is just a matter of who and what are being served by it.
So as those who are not doing well are simply the victims of social injustice, we must redress this social injustice.
1. Stop using psychiatric labels, learning disability labels, or morality labels.
2. Offer people value producing work, not nonsense just to get a paycheck.
3. Provide this cradle to grave welfare system as efficiently as possible, and understand that everyone wants to be a useful and meaningful part of our society.
4. Follow my recommendation and hold parents accountable for exploiting their children, using them to give themselves a adult identity. This amounts to psychological child abuse. So besides criminal prosecution where practical, also prevent disinheritance and offer something like a divorce from one's parents when their is parent v child animosity. Make the parents pay, and pay dearly. Make it so that child exploitation no longer pays.
5. And for those who insist on calling the poor lazy or immoral, know that this is how Capitalism works. It is the family where this starts, with the designation of a child as the blacksheep. Those who denigrate the poor are just doing what their parents did to them. So the poor and marginalized need to start standing up for themselves rather than submitting. They and all of us must start engaging in public advocacy and non-violent civil disobedience.
6. And then since the New Economy and Libertarianism are really just the old Social Darwinism and Eugenics Movement, saying that the poor are not fit to compete, we all need to be prepared to do more than just be non-violent. We don't want to be like Anne Frank's father, hiding in an attic waiting for the Gestapo. We need to be ready to engage in guerrilla warfare, the use of lethal force, and without taking prisoners. Unless we are willing to do this, then we are helping the eugenicists who say that we are not fit to live. Gandhi and Jesus lived in violent revolutionary times. They were only able to accomplish their works because others were maintaining the constant threat of lethal violence on a large scale.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare
SJG
"I fear that an writing a requiem for myself"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPlhKP0n…
www.sciencealert.com/a-canadian-province…
I think a basic income guarantee is mandatory. Capitalism is what creates unemployment. And Cecil Williams and the people who run Guild Memorial United Methodist Church in San Francisco have got it right. Poverty is caused by social marginalization.
So a corollary is simply this, everyone wants to do well. They want to win the admiration of family and friends. So if they are not doing well, then there must be some social marginalization or disability at work here. But as the main problem is marginalization, then we should not talk about disability, as usually this just means more marginalization.
And of course it is absurd that people should be accepting psychiatric labels. These are just an extreme form of oppression.
So for there to be justice there has to be this basic income guarantee, or what amounts to cradle to grave welfare.
The typical person on welfare takes far less out of our economy than those employed do. And if the welfare recipient is not driving around much in a car, then they are treading far more lightly on the earth than those who senselessly burn up gas and dump CO2 into the atmosphere to do jobs which produce absolutely nothing which people need to live.
Now welfare takes money out of gov't coffers, but in the US welfare has never been more than 3% of federal expenditure. This is much less than corporate welfare and other expenses directed to the betterment of the middle class in order to maintain political allegiance, or to keeping the poor down. So welfare is a cheaper way to keep our society going than the present state of affairs.
And then as far as federal accounts, it is the federal gov't which controls the printing press, the furnace, and interest rates which multiply the availability of money by the inverse of the interest rate. Suffice to say, federal accounts and the money supply are all under gov't control, hence it is artificial. It is just a matter of who and what are being served by it.
So as those who are not doing well are simply the victims of social injustice, we must redress this social injustice.
1. Stop using psychiatric labels, learning disability labels, or morality labels.
2. Offer people value producing work, not nonsense just to get a paycheck.
3. Provide this cradle to grave welfare system as efficiently as possible, and understand that everyone wants to be a useful and meaningful part of our society.
4. Follow my recommendation and hold parents accountable for exploiting their children, using them to give themselves a adult identity. This amounts to psychological child abuse. So besides criminal prosecution where practical, also prevent disinheritance and offer something like a divorce from one's parents when their is parent v child animosity. Make the parents pay, and pay dearly. Make it so that child exploitation no longer pays.
5. And for those who insist on calling the poor lazy or immoral, know that this is how Capitalism works. It is the family where this starts, with the designation of a child as the blacksheep. Those who denigrate the poor are just doing what their parents did to them. So the poor and marginalized need to start standing up for themselves rather than submitting. They and all of us must start engaging in public advocacy and non-violent civil disobedience.
6. And then since the New Economy and Libertarianism are really just the old Social Darwinism and Eugenics Movement, saying that the poor are not fit to compete, we all need to be prepared to do more than just be non-violent. We don't want to be like Anne Frank's father, hiding in an attic waiting for the Gestapo. We need to be ready to engage in guerrilla warfare, the use of lethal force, and without taking prisoners. Unless we are willing to do this, then we are helping the eugenicists who say that we are not fit to live. Gandhi and Jesus lived in violent revolutionary times. They were only able to accomplish their works because others were maintaining the constant threat of lethal violence on a large scale.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare
But whatever you are on right now, you've got to stay off of it. Just intoxication alone does not do this to someone. Rather it happens when someone is so psychologically addicted to a mood altering chemical that they cannot function without it.
SJG
Beethoven's 9th
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3217H8J…